[POLL] Should we have bought back Cesc Fabregas?

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Would you buy Cesc Fabregas this summer?

YES
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NO
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MAYBE
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Grant jones
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He's gone! Over, done, finito can we lock this down now?

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'We talked with Wenger but he said that he would find it difficult to make a place for me on the pitch as Ozil had my position covered,' Fabregas told a news conference at Spain's World Cup base.


Cesc Fabregas was told his position was already covered by Mesut Ozil at the Emirates before opting for Chelsea
Arsenal had first option of signing former player Fabregas
Fabregas talked with Arsene Wenger but he would 'find it difficult to make a place for me on the pitch as Ozil had my position covered'


@dailyfail



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Ozil will have a better season than Fabregas next year, if we get a striker that runs and with Walcott back plus maybe a direct left winger he will come into his own, Mourhino will suck the creativity out of Fabregas and their support wont take to him, hes said too much about loving Arsenal in the past and I reckon they will look at him like they did Benitez.

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And what happens if we suffer yet another injury crisis, as has been more or less the case every season lately? If Ozil is out for a few months of the season, do we look to rely on an inconsistent Santi? An aging Rosicky? An injury prone and inconsistent Wilshere?

We needed strength of depth (particularly depth of quality) when Cesc was here, we sill need that now that he isn't here and Ozil is. To pass up the chance to have another world class midfielder in our squad because we happen to have one is a pathetic excuse. And for Wenger to one minute moan about there being a lack of world class players available at prices that aren't inflated because of teams like Chelsea and City, and then pass up a world class player at a bargain price just stinks of someone that doesn't have a clue.

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We're talking about £30m here, that's a bargain for a player we know is absolute class and who will deliver in the PL. It might be justifiable if we needed to bypass to invest the £30m elsewhere but it's not going to look good come September when Aurier and Vela are our additions.

We should without doubt have gotten rid of Cazorla if necessary to justify getting Fabregas back. He had a great first season but with Ozil and the rise of Ramsey he was a bit-part player this season drifting in and out of the team and in different roles. He's never going to produce his best form doing that and becomes too much of a luxury at times, especially when Ozil is playing too.

Cazorla is 30 this year and we could realistically have easily recouped £12-15m - absolute no fucking brainer for me. But Wenger is massively loyal to a fault with his players. He only sells players if they ask to leave or if they have absolutely no role to play at the club. We'll find the same thing Arteta - 2 excellent seasons and a fantastic professional but doesn't really seem to fit any role and to put it lazily his legs seem to have gone.

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It's sad that we missed this opportunity to bring back a world class player, he's replaced Cashley at Chelski. No doubt wenger has already landed his other priority transfer targets... :hmmthink:

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Nos89 wrote:It's sad that we missed this opportunity to bring back a world class player, he's replaced Cashley at Chelski. No doubt wenger has already landed his other priority transfer targets... :hmmthink:


"he's replace Cashley at Chelski"


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??????

The mind boggles.






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northbank123 wrote:We're talking about £30m here, that's a bargain for a player we know is absolute class and who will deliver in the PL. It might be justifiable if we needed to bypass to invest the £30m elsewhere but it's not going to look good come September when Aurier and Vela are our additions.

We should without doubt have gotten rid of Cazorla if necessary to justify getting Fabregas back. He had a great first season but with Ozil and the rise of Ramsey he was a bit-part player this season drifting in and out of the team and in different roles. He's never going to produce his best form doing that and becomes too much of a luxury at times, especially when Ozil is playing too.

Cazorla is 30 this year and we could realistically have easily recouped £12-15m - absolute no fucking brainer for me. But Wenger is massively loyal to a fault with his players. He only sells players if they ask to leave or if they have absolutely no role to play at the club. We'll find the same thing Arteta - 2 excellent seasons and a fantastic professional but doesn't really seem to fit any role and to put it lazily his legs seem to have gone.
I wanted Fabregas back and would have been prepared to shoe-horn the geezer anywhere into the team. However, I can't say that I was surprised to see us pass up the opportunity considering the players we already have. IMO the loyalty thing is admirable to a certain degree but in today's game doesn't go both ways. If the rumours about Cazorla and Athletico came true after passing up on Fabregas, I'd probably lose my fucking mind.

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Post by Ed Hunter The Gooner »

kiwomya wrote:
northbank123 wrote:We're talking about £30m here, that's a bargain for a player we know is absolute class and who will deliver in the PL. It might be justifiable if we needed to bypass to invest the £30m elsewhere but it's not going to look good come September when Aurier and Vela are our additions.

We should without doubt have gotten rid of Cazorla if necessary to justify getting Fabregas back. He had a great first season but with Ozil and the rise of Ramsey he was a bit-part player this season drifting in and out of the team and in different roles. He's never going to produce his best form doing that and becomes too much of a luxury at times, especially when Ozil is playing too.

Cazorla is 30 this year and we could realistically have easily recouped £12-15m - absolute no fucking brainer for me. But Wenger is massively loyal to a fault with his players. He only sells players if they ask to leave or if they have absolutely no role to play at the club. We'll find the same thing Arteta - 2 excellent seasons and a fantastic professional but doesn't really seem to fit any role and to put it lazily his legs seem to have gone.
I wanted Fabregas back and would have been prepared to shoe-horn the geezer anywhere into the team. However, I can't say that I was surprised to see us pass up the opportunity considering the players we already have. IMO the loyalty thing is admirable to a certain degree but in today's game doesn't go both ways. If the rumours about Cazorla and Athletico came true after passing up on Fabregas, I'd probably lose my fucking mind.
Agree 100%. The fact that we rejected Cesc because of Özil is understandable, but we have only one world class player in the squad. Are we so fucking quality that we don't need another world class player? I don't think so. Again, likes of Arteta, Rosicky or Santi should be offloaded in a blink of an eye if we had a possibility to add another world class player into the squad.

The thing is, if we bought another midfielder or sold Cazorla after we rejected Cesc, I'm going to go fucking mental! :banghead:

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Post by Clash »

Didn't you lot realise that it was Fabregas boyhood dream to play for Chelsea? He used to stand on the Shed watching Furlong and Stein so when the chance came the pull of wearing that ugly Blue shirt was too much ... oh hang on I'm getting confused !

I seriously think its unforgivable that Wenger didn't take him back but I'm not surprised. Its a long time since Wenger did what was best for the team. He has his own agendas. Fuck knows what they are though.

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Post by turricaned »

Wow. Looks like I'd have lost that bet then - I've got to admit to being seriously surprised!

Wonder if there'll be enough time for Cesc to get his PCV licence between returning from the World Cup and the start of the PL? :twisted:
Gunnersaurus wrote:Ozil will have a better season than Fabregas next year
I certainly hope so - looking at the results of Spain's opening WC game compared to Germany's, I'd say it may be a safe bet at this point...

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turricaned wrote:Wow. Looks like I'd have lost that bet then - I've got to admit to being seriously surprised!

Wonder if there'll be enough time for Cesc to get his PCV licence between returning from the World Cup and the start of the PL? :twisted:
Gunnersaurus wrote:Ozil will have a better season than Fabregas next year
I certainly hope so - looking at the results of Spain's opening WC game compared to Germany's, I'd say it may be a safe bet at this point...
Why be surprised, its the sort of thing that AW has been doing in the transfer market for a number of years, perhaps since DD left the scene. :evil:

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Post by turricaned »

Surprised because Cesc isn't historically known for being a fan of Jose, nor is he the kind of midfielder who thrives on spending a lot of time sitting back to hit on the counter.

At the end of the day it's not personal - if the rumours of a £100m kitty are true, then it's reasonable to conclude that we need to spend it on one or two decent strikers, replacing Sagna and getting a decent reserve GK, and therefore that spending £30m on another attacking midfielder (no matter how beloved), of which we already have three, is not likely to be a wise use of the money.

EDIT : Also, saying that Mesut is the only world-class midfielder we have in the squad does Rambo a massive disservice. I daresay that if if Wales had a better squad, he'd be in Brazil right now - or if circumstances permitted his wearing an England shirt, we might have seen a better result against Italy!

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turricaned wrote:Surprised because Cesc isn't historically known for being a fan of Jose, nor is he the kind of midfielder who thrives on spending a lot of time sitting back to hit on the counter.

At the end of the day it's not personal - if the rumours of a £100m kitty are true, then it's reasonable to conclude that we need to spend it on one or two decent strikers, replacing Sagna and getting a decent reserve GK, and therefore that spending £30m on another attacking midfielder (no matter how beloved), of which we already have three, is not likely to be a wise use of the money.

EDIT : Also, saying that Mesut is the only world-class midfielder we have in the squad does Rambo a massive disservice. I daresay that if if Wales had a better squad, he'd be in Brazil right now - or if circumstances permitted his wearing an England shirt, we might have seen a better result against Italy!
Oh yes, Rambo! I don't think it's safe to say that he is world class just yet based on just one season of pure class. He will be though very soon if he continues like last season. But still, we would have been able to include Cesc into the team. If reported interest from Atletico to Santi is true and player himself wants to go, we would easily get 15-20m from that deal and Cesc deal wouldn't be that difficult anymore regarding finances.

But, it's all too late now :banghead:

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I wonder how many of the people who are saying we don't need Fabregas because we have too many midfielders ... are the same people who were saying we would have won the league if Ramsey hadn't got injured ?!

Can't have it both ways surely?

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