As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
1989 wrote:These countries have much more passion than us and that's the difference. Look at Higuain crying at the final whistle. They'd die for their country. The likes of Shrek don't give a flying fuck.
That's honestly the sort of shit I hear all week in work from people who will happily admit that they have never watched a football match through. Absolute crap mate.
Obviously it's not the only thing we lack in comparison, but it's one of the biggest imo.
Firstly I don't think it's factually true. Rooney has a great many faults - attitude amongst them - but his passion and sheer determination/will to win are not ones that I would question. Gerrard is an overrated egotistical prick but I don't doubt for a second that he genuinely loves playing for England and never leaves anything out on the pitch. They didn't deserve it but watching Chelsea grind out that CL win in 2012 in those last 4 matches with a host of English players like Cahill, Cole, Terry and Lampard rubbishes the idea that England players lack passion and guts and I think it's completely unfounded to suggest they ditch that when they're putting on the white shirt.
Secondly no amount of pride, passion or any other mental attribute is going to make Cahill and Jagielka capable of coping with a quality attacking force (for example). England are just light years behind the top teams technically and tactically and it filters down to grass-roots/junior level. Lack of passion is just a lazy stick to beat the current crop with.
gp543 wrote:Bringing in a keeper who's only saved 2/20 for his club? Van Gaal is mental.
Fucking annoying because van Gaal will be praised to high heaven (and he is a right smug *word censored*) but they would have won that shootout with the other keeper. Apart from slamming the 4th home Costa Rica's penalties were all saveable and tbh a keeper who was great at keeping out pens would be disappointed at only saving 2 having guessed right all 4 times.
Obviously it's a huge game and you expect emotion etc but Krul's reaction to every penalty and the rigmarole before every fucking penalty was taking the piss. I know van Judas is and always has been a spoilt brat but I've always thought Krul was a total wanker since that game in 2012.
Another side packed with talent hobbling past a far inferior outfit in a drawn-out borefest
There's gamesmanship and there's going over the line and that **** krul just went over the line - I soooooo wish Costa Rica had won on penalties - so their players could have got in his face and Mocked him.
Despicable **** - I hate the argies but I hopr they beat van judas , kuntkrul & co
Krul is a first class *word censored*. To be honest this Dutch team is extremely unlikeable. Full of wankers like Robben and Judas and their smug *word censored* of a manager. They're not entertaining to watch either.
1. I dont believe it - fat scolari stated afterwards that he doesnt think that neymar will play
2. If it's true then it serves neymar right - he is a diving cheating c.unt and it's good to see that karma is still alive and well in this world 1989 you should try watching football with a bit more balance - the columbian guy wasnt a thug and it was a freakish injury from a stupid foul. How many times have we seen those tackles in games and how many of those times have we seen it resulting in a broken vertebrae ?
3. Fat scolari is a fat hypocritical c.unt - he has some cheek claiming that neymar has been targetted by opposition teams, after sending his players out to get rodriguez everytime he went near the ball At one stage I thought that the brazilian players had a competition amongst themselves to see who could kick him the most Maybe they implimented the greg williams new orlean saints defensive policy (for those who dont know, williams had a system in new orleans where defensive players received bonuses for hitting opposition players and if they put them out of the game then their bonus was a lot higher )
I just don't understand this line of thought. Why on earth is it "karma" that Neymar gets his back smashed into even if indeed he has been a "diving cheating *word censored*"? A lot of players dive and cheat. We've had cheats playing for us. Did you ever wish Pires got maimed for his dive vs Portsmouth?
A player of Neymar's quality getting injured like that is fucking sickening. If you love football surely you can't be happy to see good players getting maimed by talentless scumbags like Zuniga.
Not even looking at the ball and then goes on and shoves him down from his neck. Hope FIFA throw the book at this *word censored*.
I love football and I absolutely hate to see cheating b.astards (like robben, neymar etc) sully the game that I love and cheapen it to a mixture of ballerina with a football I don't care whether people are old school fans or younger fans, nobody should want cheats to succeed regardless of who they are or who they play for
Secondly I never hoped that neymar got maimed and your suggestion that I did is just another example of woeful exageration on your behalf So too is your assertion that Zuniga is a talentless prick and that he intended to break neymar s vertebrae - he absolutely went to take him out and went to hit him hard but you don't premeditate a tackle to break someone's back in the way that many players have gone with the intention of breaking opposition legs. You are disrespecting zuniga's abilities based on nothing more than hatred over a bad tackle on the Brazilian pussy but that doesn't make him talentless
Re pires, can I suggest to you that there was probably many fans of other English teams, who felt that pires doing his cruciate was karma for all the diving he did. For us Gooners it was an absolute tragedy in a season that he was the best player in the league, but opposition fans disliked him for his diving and don't think otherwise
OneBardGooner wrote:There's gamesmanship and there's going over the line and that **** krul just went over the line - I soooooo wish Costa Rica had won on penalties - so their players could have got in his face and Mocked him.
Despicable **** - I hate the argies but I hopr they beat van judas , kuntkrul & co
Poor refereeing again let that c.unt continually do that to every Costa Rican penalty taker - I swear to god I would have picked up the ball and smashed it into his face if he tried that with me Can a player even get a red card in a penalty shoot out ? This World Cup is the first time I have ever wanted the Dutch to fail - the robben diving, the rvp factor, that botoxed face of the new manure manager, and now the antics of a keeper who is only good enough to play for a shit hole club in geordieland are all good reasons why I want them dumped on their arse next Wednesday night
OneBardGooner wrote:There's gamesmanship and there's going over the line and that **** krul just went over the line - I soooooo wish Costa Rica had won on penalties - so their players could have got in his face and Mocked him.
Despicable **** - I hate the argies but I hopr they beat van judas , kuntkrul & co
Poor refereeing again let that c.unt continually do that to every Costa Rican penalty taker - I swear to god I would have picked up the ball and smashed it into his face if he tried that with me Can a player even get a red card in a penalty shoot out ? This World Cup is the first time I have ever wanted the Dutch to fail - the robben diving, the rvp factor, that botoxed face of the new manure manager, and now the antics of a keeper who is only good enough to play for a shit hole club in geordieland are all good reasons why I want them dumped on their arse next Wednesday night
Same here..always used to have a few quid on the Dutch in major tournaments and support them after Englands usual exit...can't stand the pricks now. ..or the Germans. ..or the Argies...don't like Brazil nowadays either...bollocks!!!
I wanted Costa Rica to win, but then again, I believe Dutch have more chances to beat Messi FC and inevitably lose to Germany in final 2-1 with goals from Müller, Schweinsteiger and Sneijder.
OneBardGooner wrote:There's gamesmanship and there's going over the line and that **** krul just went over the line - I soooooo wish Costa Rica had won on penalties - so their players could have got in his face and Mocked him.
Despicable **** - I hate the argies but I hopr they beat van judas , kuntkrul & co
Poor refereeing again let that c.unt continually do that to every Costa Rican penalty taker - I swear to god I would have picked up the ball and smashed it into his face if he tried that with me Can a player even get a red card in a penalty shoot out ? This World Cup is the first time I have ever wanted the Dutch to fail - the robben diving, the rvp factor, that botoxed face of the new manure manager, and now the antics of a keeper who is only good enough to play for a shit hole club in geordieland are all good reasons why I want them dumped on their arse next Wednesday night
Agreed, although I have been opposed to this Brazilian stitch-up from the start I would also hate the Dutch to win it, possibly even more than Brazil. As a keeper I always try and play a few games with penalties to delay them taking it and if possible make them walk right up to get the ball but what Krul was doing was completely out of line. As you said the referee should have intervened after the first time - should have made him get on his line by the time they had placed it and if not shown him a yellow, any prolonged arguments or repeat performances and give him another then they can put an outfield player in goal (I guess). Would have taken guts but not even speaking to Krul as he did it for every penalty was a fucking disgrace, just about every referee I've seen in this tournament has been an utter coward.
Van Gaal is a smug wanker, after every fucking game he highlights every tactical decision and how "proud" he is of it. Never mind that they failed to score in 120 minutes against Costa Rica, van Gaal clearly showed what a tactical genius he is yesterday
It's a sad sad state of affairs when you're left supporting the Argies and the Germans
northbank123 wrote:In his (dreadful) BBC Sport column Rio Ferdinand seemed extremely proud that the senior players made it as hard as possible for young players to come through at United, particularly in Scholes "kicking the living daylights" out of Paul Pogba on the training pitch every day.
As much as I despair at the seemingly sheltered environment around our players letting Scholes literally kick his way back into the side probably wasn't a wise long-term approach to solving their CM problem.
I read that as him kicking Pogba as a way of toughening him up, apparently he was supposed to say nothing about it so he could earn the "respect" of Jar-Jar Binks and his mates.
In a nutshell it shows everything that is wrong with English football. What is even worse is that he has phrased that in a way that suggests it's completely normal and we should be impressed, good old Scholesy eh? You see this shit up and down the country every week in Sunday league, it's the level of football intellect of my barber writ large. According to him all we needed to win the World Cup was more midfield cloggers to "leave their studs in." Not a single other major footballing nation approaches the game this way or if they do it doesn't become the be-all. Fuck off to the UFC. And as I have to explain to nearly every middle aged man I meet, I literally could not give less of a fuck about how football was in the 70s.
It also confirms what those of us with eyes knew about Paul Scholes from day 1 - he is a massive, massive *word censored*.
Lots of good players and teams came out of the 70's mate.
Sure Ferdinand's a but he's just reflecting what went on at a club that won the lot - again and again. Must be something rght about that.
Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying the culture of kicking people up in the air is a hangover of the 70s that we've been very slow to let go of in this country whether it's in the Premier League which for decades has operated a different refereeing approach to the rest of the world (with the exception of this World Cup for some reason) or to the grass roots and kids football where the guys who can kick it furthest and intimidate the opposition rule the roost. Every time I put this argument to people of a certain age all I ever hear is "watch the 1970 cup final, proper men blah blah". Football nowadays is a technical and tactical game and we've been left behind.
1989 you should try watching football with a bit more balance - the columbian guy wasnt a thug and it was a freakish injury from a stupid foul. How many times have we seen those tackles in games and how many of those times have we seen it resulting in a broken vertebrae ?
At one stage I thought that the brazilian players had a competition amongst themselves to see who could kick him the most 
Maybe they implimented the greg williams new orlean saints defensive policy (for those who dont know, williams had a system in new orleans where defensive players received bonuses for hitting opposition players and if they put them out of the game then their bonus was a lot higher 
)
This World Cup is the first time I have ever wanted the Dutch to fail - the robben diving, the rvp factor, that botoxed face of the new manure manager, and now the antics of a keeper who is only good enough to play for a shit hole club in geordieland are all good reasons why I want them dumped on their arse next Wednesday night 
