How should we line up next season?

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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clockender1 wrote:this is the Daily Mail's view - and optimistic it is too :

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can sanchez play wide left ?

no jack, caz, tets, or Rosicky.
He can play anywhere across the front 3.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Not having a go at you 1989 but this thread is a bit premature imo - if we signed a proper DM in the coming weeks then it changes everything. Right now we don't have a powerful mobile DM that I would be happy with so every scenario I look at hinges on that one position - sign a top quality one and it opens up a ton of possibilities for us, but buy a cheap version (or khedira who isn't a proper DM imo) and we are limited in our tactical options

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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clockender1 wrote:if he plays wide, he plays wide right - where Ox and Feo play ?

the combinations are endless, but this is what i hope for :

Pod-----Feo------Sanchez

----------Ozil-------------

-----DM--------Rambo----

as both Pod and Sanchez track back and Feo can play on the shoulder of the last defender, as JC and Giroud can.

you can swap in Caz for Ozil, Ox for sanchez, feo with sanchez and vice versa. JC for Sanchez.

what this means to me is that no place for Rosicky , unless he swaps in for Pod, or Wilshire, flam or tets unless we DON'T sign the DM we need.

as we know, wilshire or tets on the left behind Caz is a disaster....

in tighter games we might line up with :

-----------Feo-------Sanchez--------
Ozil-----DM--------Rambo----Gnabry/JC/Ox

not to make the most of pace would be stupid, but we might see Giroud and Sanchez up top with Feo on the Bench.

thems me best guesses
I would think the signing of Sanchez means that pod cannot expect to start most games. He hasn't set the world alight for Arsenal or Germany imo.

Ozil needs pace and intelligent movement ahead of him to thrive, there is no doubt he was getting fustrated in the second half of last season. Keeping theo and the ox fit will be key next season if we are to make a sustained challenge.

I don't want Joel Campbell loaned out next season so we can have a good look at him.

Two more players and we will be very close to city.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Working on the basis that we haven't signed a new DM or RB

Jenkinson-----Mertesacker----Koscielny-----Gibbs
---------Arteta-------Ramsey----------------
Theo--------------Ozil---------------Cazorla
-------------------Sanchez-------------------

Giroud as our plan B although it's fairly academic because you can count on one hand the amount of games in a season where we have a full compliment of players to pick from.

Edit: This team might concede a few goals without a goalkeeper, sczezezezeney in the sticks
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Re: How should we line up next season?

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LDB wrote:Working on the basis that we haven't signed a new DM or RB

Jenkinson-----Mertesacker----Koscielny-----Gibbs
---------Arteta-------Ramsey----------------
Theo--------------Ozil---------------Cazorla
-------------------Sanchez-------------------

Giroud as our plan B although it's fairly academic because you can count on one hand the amount of games in a season where we have a full compliment of players to pick from.
And we have to realistically temper our pre-season expectations and post-season analyses with this in mind. It's unrealistic for any team to expect to go a season without any inconvenient injuries, never mind a team as finely balanced as us with the approach to fitness/conditioning and injuries that we have.

Saying "if Ozil, Walcott and Ramsey hadn't got injured..." is all fine and well but you can't legislate to go a season without injuries to any of your first-team players.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Should the rumours come true.

-------------------Ospina-------------------------
Debuchy-----Mertesacker----Koscielny-----Gibbs
------Khedira/Schneiderlin-------Ramsey----------------
--------Ozil--------------------Cazorla
---------Sanchez--------Giroud---------------

I hate this one up front bollocks.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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-------------------Szczesny--------------------
Debuchy--Mertesacker--Koscielny-----Gibbs
------------Khedira-------Ramsey--------
---------------------Ozil--------------------
---Walcott-------Sanchez----------Cazorla


Although Walcott and Sanchez will be largely interchangeable and there will still be a significant role for Giroud in certain games.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Robin_L wrote:-------------------Szczesny--------------------
Debuchy--Mertesacker--Koscielny-----Gibbs
------------Khedira-------Ramsey--------
---------------------Ozil--------------------
---Walcott-------Sanchez----------Cazorla


Although Walcott and Sanchez will be largely interchangeable and there will still be a significant role for Giroud in certain games.
I like this, with Ozil and Cazorla interchangeable.

I also would like to see a 442 some times with Walcott wide right and Ozil left. Santi would be dropped to the bench for Giroud.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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I cant see Jack nd Ox being on the bench next season. Someone will make way for Sanchez. Probably Podolski and Santi.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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I just can't see where Jack fits in now, Ramsey's form has pretty much pushed him out, the only way would be if Wenger didn't buy a defensive minded midfielder and Jack replaced Arteta next to Ramsey, failing that I dont think he fits in as Ozil surely will play behind the striker in that 'no 10' role.

Big year for him, needs to put his football first and stay out of the limelight, he has a real fight on to be something other than a squad player right now.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Perhaps time to offload Walcott?

I prefer Ox.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:Perhaps time to offload Walcott?

I prefer Ox.


I agree but then I'm not a big wally fan anyway :lol:

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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Doesn't his contract expire at the end of next season? :rubchin:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:Doesn't his contract expire at the end of next season? :rubchin:
Season after. 2016.

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Re: How should we line up next season?

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The more I look at our players the more pissed off I get with le cock - we have 3 players for the no.10 role (ozil, cazorla, rosicky), 3 attacking midfielders (ramsey, ox and wilshere) but yet no left winger or no proper DM :roll: I would want a system that has us playing with 2 strikers (from sanchez, giroud and podolski) but no proper left winger screws us for 4-4-2 so 3-5-2 might be the best system for the players we have available but that would require keeping tv5 and buying a top quality DM and another centre back. That system though might also curtail the ox, ramsey and definitely wally and I dont see le cock doing that either.

I believe our current system reads more like 4-5-1 than 4-3-3 but regardless of which it is, it still leaves us playing 1 midfielder (arteta) and alongside him is any permatation of ramsey, wilshere, ozil, rosicky, ox and cazorla and every single one of them are attack minded which leaves arteta badly exposed every time. Basically I am saying what I have said numerous times in the past.....our system doesnt suit the players we have - however, because we overstocked some positions and neglected others, it is hard to pick a system which does suit our players :roll: This is why I would support the idea of selling some of our talents (like ozil and cazorla for example) - instead of buying players are trying to square peg them into round holes, we need to buy players with a system/formation in mind and with a view to improving areas of need and offering us different options as opposed to different personnel into the same system. If we bought two strong and dominating centre midfielders that curbed the influence and reduced gametime for the likes of ramsey then I would be totally ok with that IF it made the team better - problem on here, is that most fans want to put personnel and individual players ahead of the team and would consider it to be disrespectful/outrageous to suggest selling ozil, wally or whoever and want to focus on their individual talent rather than ask themselves if those talents work with this team. It is no coincidence that most (not all) that laud the talents of ozil (for example) and defend him no matter what, are the same one's that defend le cock despite the fact that it is largely le cock's system which is stagnating ozil - somewhat ironic dont you think ? :lol:

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