Bergkamp was overrated or "WUM 101"
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Bergkamp was overrated or "WUM 101"
controversial I know but I dont think he was in the league of Henry/Viera. Hell i'd put Shearer ahead of Bergkamp just for the shear consistency.
He scored amazing goals and I can understand why he is a fan favourite but IMO Ibrahimovic is on a different level. He was a great player no doubt but not A* top draw quality. Can anyone here truly justify him as being in the same league as Messi/Ibra/Ronaldo (both)?
He didn't have the burst of pace that Henry had and he played in the era of where football had yet evolved to whereby every touch is scrutinized and as such it is tempting to be nostalgic.
He scored amazing goals and I can understand why he is a fan favourite but IMO Ibrahimovic is on a different level. He was a great player no doubt but not A* top draw quality. Can anyone here truly justify him as being in the same league as Messi/Ibra/Ronaldo (both)?
He didn't have the burst of pace that Henry had and he played in the era of where football had yet evolved to whereby every touch is scrutinized and as such it is tempting to be nostalgic.
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F**k off you WUM. Go back to Glory Glory.
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Just trying far too hard.
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I agree totally. Only Özil is more overrated. Would take the accomplished Alex Song over both any day of the week.
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I have tried to debate with you regarding some of your incredibly strange comments but now you are just taking the piss.
Please go away.
Please go away.
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Re: Bergkamp was overrated
He was one of the most insightful passers of the ball in football history.
His ball control was incredible.
His creativity outlandish.
Remember that he played for us until he was about 36.
So yes, in his last few seasons he slowed down.
And yes, he scored less goals because he was a sharp cookie and knew that the team would benefit by him being the provider for Henry.
And yes, he had the odd bad day at the office.
Perhaps it can be said that only Garrincha, Pele, Cruyff and Maradonna were the ultimate elite level players, with Messi and Ronaldo having every chance of joining them by the end of their careers.
But Bergkamp was up there with a lot of other greats, perhaps at a very slightly less exalted level such as Di Stefano, Best, Eusebio, Zico, Zidane, Maldini, Henry etc.
His ball control was incredible.
His creativity outlandish.
Remember that he played for us until he was about 36.
So yes, in his last few seasons he slowed down.
And yes, he scored less goals because he was a sharp cookie and knew that the team would benefit by him being the provider for Henry.
And yes, he had the odd bad day at the office.
Perhaps it can be said that only Garrincha, Pele, Cruyff and Maradonna were the ultimate elite level players, with Messi and Ronaldo having every chance of joining them by the end of their careers.
But Bergkamp was up there with a lot of other greats, perhaps at a very slightly less exalted level such as Di Stefano, Best, Eusebio, Zico, Zidane, Maldini, Henry etc.
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Fair play to getting that many posts on the board while being a WUM. Thats some great dedication there
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I think Zidane was overrated to tbfQuartzGooner wrote:He was one of the most insightful passers of the ball in football history.
His ball control was incredible.
His creativity outlandish.
Remember that he played for us until he was about 36.
So yes, in his last few seasons he slowed down.
And yes, he scored less goals because he was a sharp cookie and knew that the team would benefit by him being the provider for Henry.
And yes, he had the odd bad day at the office.
Perhaps it can be said that only Garrincha, Pele, Cruyff and Maradonna were the ultimate elite level players, with Messi and Ronaldo having every chance of joining them by the end of their careers.
But Bergkamp was up there with a lot of other greats, perhaps at a very slightly less exalted level such as Di Stefano, Best, Eusebio, Zico, Zidane, Maldini, Henry etc.
I am not saying Bergy was never world class just that the standard has gotten greater, with freaks like Messi and Ronaldo. Also the leagues got harder around 2004 onward, with more foreign players.
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i agree. Frannie Jeffers or Glenn Helder were much better
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seriously must be better ways to get attention ,I find it very sad
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Re: Bergkamp was overrated
Tier A* Messi, CR, Pele etc
Tier A Ibrahimovic, Ronaldo
Tier A- Thiery Henry, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho
Tier B+ Zidane, Bergkamp (I think Bergy would be ahead of Zid slightly)
Tier B Giggs Scholes
Just a rough guide to of what I think but I think it was innevitable that C.Ronaldo would eclipse Henry and there will be someone who eclipses Messi in the future.
Tier F Ozil.....just kidding. F is for Flappihandski.
Tier A Ibrahimovic, Ronaldo
Tier A- Thiery Henry, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho
Tier B+ Zidane, Bergkamp (I think Bergy would be ahead of Zid slightly)
Tier B Giggs Scholes
Just a rough guide to of what I think but I think it was innevitable that C.Ronaldo would eclipse Henry and there will be someone who eclipses Messi in the future.
Tier F Ozil.....just kidding. F is for Flappihandski.
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Re: Bergkamp was overrated
Ibrahimovic a better footballer than Bergkamp? No chance.
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Brilliant....your funniest yet ....keep up the good work, but i think you may have peaked with this one...not sure how you could possibly top "Bergkamp over rated"