THE WENGER THREAD

[DB10GOONER]

100% Against.

I concur

I will see your concurance and raise you an emphatic agreement.

[OneBardGooner]

There are now more reasons to be against than there are for.

101% against.

[fivetothree]

Cannot understand the logic of le cock arguing Ramsey's red card on the basis that the ref let much worse than that go on - maybe he did let worse go on but that is an argument in itself and separate from Ramsey's two yellow cards which were spot on

Why would you call the most successful manager in Arsenals history Le Cock? Are you a Spurs fan?

Honestly, that is embarassing. Show the man some respect, even if you think he has done his time no need for that.

Save that kind of thing for the likes of Mourinho, Nasri, Adebayor etc not anyone at Arsenal.

[officepest]

Cannot understand the logic of le cock arguing Ramsey's red card on the basis that the ref let much worse than that go on - maybe he did let worse go on but that is an argument in itself and separate from Ramsey's two yellow cards which were spot on

Why would you call the most successful manager in Arsenals history Le Cock? Are you a Spurs fan?

Honestly, that is embarassing. Show the man some respect, even if you think he has done his time no need for that.

Save that kind of thing for the likes of Mourinho, Nasri, Adebayor etc not anyone at Arsenal.

I see you're new here. 'Le Cock' is positively mild.

[fivetothree]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

[DB10GOONER]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

There's a thread. You should read it.

[officepest]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

There were one or two politely suggesting that Mr Wenger should be relieved of his duties. Which, to be fair, he should have.

[DB10GOONER]

Cannot understand the logic of le cock arguing Ramsey's red card on the basis that the ref let much worse than that go on - maybe he did let worse go on but that is an argument in itself and separate from Ramsey's two yellow cards which were spot on

Why would you call the most successful manager in Arsenals history Le Cock? Are you a Spurs fan?

Honestly, that is embarassing. Show the man some respect, even if you think he has done his time no need for that.

Save that kind of thing for the likes of Mourinho, Nasri, Adebayor etc not anyone at Arsenal.

Mate, if you are gonna stick around here you might want to get yourself a thicker skin. We are not Arsenal.com. People are allowed to express themselves here as they want - within reason. Look on this forum as the pub after a particularly shit loss, let's say 8-2 away. There will be jokes, there will be rants, there will be abuse, there will be dwarfs like Lefty and Ewoks like OneBard. It's not for everyone.

[Blood_Gooner]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

So much that could be easily dissected here and rubbished. Will only say, though, that said markedly improved squad just last season received 3 utterly embarrassing pumpings.

[augie]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

So basically signing two top players is a reason to ignore all the other bullshit that the French cock brings to the table ? I cannot believe that any right minded Gooner would champion the signings of any player as if in itself it equates to winning trophies

[fivetothree]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

There's a thread. You should read it.

Oh dear, must be horror reading.

[fivetothree]

Cannot understand the logic of le cock arguing Ramsey's red card on the basis that the ref let much worse than that go on - maybe he did let worse go on but that is an argument in itself and separate from Ramsey's two yellow cards which were spot on

Why would you call the most successful manager in Arsenals history Le Cock? Are you a Spurs fan?

Honestly, that is embarassing. Show the man some respect, even if you think he has done his time no need for that.

Save that kind of thing for the likes of Mourinho, Nasri, Adebayor etc not anyone at Arsenal.

Mate, if you are gonna stick around here you might want to get yourself a thicker skin. We are not Arsenal.com. People are allowed to express themselves here as they want - within reason. Look on this forum as the pub after a particularly shit loss, let's say 8-2 away. There will be jokes, there will be rants, there will be abuse, there will be dwarfs like Lefty and Ewoks like OneBard. It's not for everyone.

Yeah I understand that, and I love the banter that is why I signed up here. But I think calling your own manager a cock is crossing a line.

[fivetothree]

Maybe it is me, but I do not understand some of the negativity here.

We have just won the FA Cup and signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last 12 months!

Not saying things are perfect, but they are way better than they were. I dread to think of what it was like here after the 8-2 shellacking at OT in 2011.

And I'm not a blind Wenger loyalist, but he has improved the squad markedly the last couple of years and hopefully the team will have a solid base to handover to whoever comes in in 2/3 years.

So basically signing two top players is a reason to ignore all the other bullshit that the French cock brings to the table ? I cannot believe that any right minded Gooner would champion the signings of any player as if in itself it equates to winning trophies

No, but I am putting a sense of perspective in here. Not so long ago we were signing shite like Park, Santos, Schillaci, Silvestre, Denilson etc. Now look at what we have, I cannot think of one player who does not deserve to be in the squad.

Of course winning trophies come first, but the signings show that the club has improved in this area. Not so long ago we were losing our best player every season (Cesc 2011, RVP 2012 etc), but not any longer.

The point is, there is a lot to be positive about. Are things perfect? No. But they are a hell of a lot better than they are.

Like I said before, people have short memories and think we have a god given right to win everything. We don't.

[augie]

How is this for perspective -

1. We have won one trophy in 9 years

2. We have le postman and flamoney who are not worth their place in the squad. We have Campbell who, despite the claims from some on here, has not proven yet that he is worth a place in the squad. We have a very average first choice centre forward and we have 2 average left backs to choose from.

3. The signings of ozil and Sanchez have shown that we have improved in our transfer dealings......how ? We signed a quality player (ozil) to play in the one position that we are overstocked in We signed Sanchez and have marooned him on the wing. Whilst we have been making "big name signings" (otherwise known as shirt sellers) we have failed to address the glaring needs at DM, centre forward and at centre back - fix those areas properly and we can claim that we have improved in our transfer dealings because at the moment there isn't an awful lot of planning in our dealings

4. We have a system/tactical formation that doesn't work. We have used this system for the past few seasons and it didn't work then either. We have started this season with the same system and show no sign of changing it. To accommodate this bullshit system we are playing players like podolski, cazorla and ozil on the wings (and Ramsey & bendtner in the past) when it is not their proper positions. Instead of building a system around the players we have, le cock is sticking with his system and as a consequence he is putting square pegs into round holes.

You are right though when you say people have short memories......it seems for some that an fa cup win has wiped out the trophyless 9 seasons which has seen us declining at an alarming rate and has see us turned over by Bradford, Blackburn etc

[OneBardGooner]

Wenger had the opportunity to buy Fabregas back - who is a better player than Carzola

He had the opportunity to sign Balotelli for what is a cheap price by present standards (a looney toon yes), but could work wonders with the kind of service the like sof Ozil, Wilshere, Santi and Alexis could provide.

He seems to not be interested in Khedira or Carvalho both of who are there for the taking.

Arteta is now injured - yet another reason for him to buy a DMF who can Boss the mid-filed - Wilshere has great skills but he simply is too lightweight to Own & Boss the mid-field.

He signs Alexis - a truly gifted player, getting us all to hope this just might be the season we have been waiting for, that he will then strengthen the Obvious weaknesses in the team and what does he do? he refuses to get them - even when they are available.

We have Kos & BFG as CB's - and although Chambers can cover short term - if either of them suffer a long time injury - there is no way he can play for extended periods of time , at least not without burn out.

Wenger may shock us all and come up with the players we know we need him to buy...But I wouldn't hold my breath.

Which is why I totally understand when people call wenger Le Cock - it is through Pure and Absolute Frustration. We really do have the opportunity to challenge for and even WIN the perm IF he buys the players needed, there is no reason not to, because we now have the Money - And yet he still seems to be counting pennies as if the money were his.

His arrogance and lack of ability/willngness to adapt to how football is now run - sad but true - will cost us yet more grief and embarrassment...Most managers would learn from getting raped by the likes of man$hitty, the Chavscum and the Victims, and yet he still continues to run the club as if it were Lidl rather than Harrods...when the fuck is he going to WAKE UP!?

I really fucking despair - knowing we have to endure another 3 years of him - makes me despair it really does...because we all "Know" 1,000% that he is not going to listen to others advice, he is NOT going to change and yet he expects fans to keep spending their hard earned cash week in week out....

And then of course you get the AKB brigade saying if you call him this or if you don't agree with the way he is managing the club - You should go and support spudscum or some fuckin' else.....There are quite a few Gooners on here - Who have supported THE Arsenal Longer than Wenger has been in football....

We have been waiting for him to change - to adapt and improve - to do what everyone knows needs doing - But he refuses to even discuss or consider it.

Just some of the reasons why I want him GONE!.

It is Arsenal FC NOT Arsene fc.