THE WENGER THREAD

[Gunner Rob]

This whole season could be a complete car crash

The media are going to absolutely love it

300% against

[BFG4]

If he doesn't bring anyone in today, the wheels will most definitely come off this year. We just do not have any depth and with rivals strengthening, even with Sanchez, we won't make the top 4.

We have played 5 and had a decent performance in one half of those games. He really should have walked at the end of last season when he had the fans goodwill, but the knives will be out if he brings no one in.

He has to bring in one or two today. I fear that he is playing a dangerous game. I think he is trying to hold out for as long as possible to force clubs that want to offload players to take a smaller fee. In business this is a good ploy. In football it isn't!

If we don't sign anyone today the WOB's will be in full flight.

why wouldn't fans be critical if they watch the manager showing incompetence in the window again? Don't forget t was Wenger that decided last summer that he needed a striker, and again knew he needed one in January, so it is ridiculous to even attempt to defend him.

[remigardeshair]

We have glaring and obvious deficiencies in our squad that need urgently addressing, and have needed so for the entire window.

He's in Rome to referee a charity match.

It's indefensible whether you are an akb, aob, elo or jls.

[Blood_Gooner]

Spuddy aside, anyone still for?

[Gunner Rob]

It is the constant lies that annoy me.

We were told that if we were in the CL then the top players would come.
In the past week Di Maria and Falcao have signed for Man United who are not even fucking well in the Europa league!!!!

[SPUDMASHER]

If he doesn't bring anyone in today, the wheels will most definitely come off this year. We just do not have any depth and with rivals strengthening, even with Sanchez, we won't make the top 4.

We have played 5 and had a decent performance in one half of those games. He really should have walked at the end of last season when he had the fans goodwill, but the knives will be out if he brings no one in.

He has to bring in one or two today. I fear that he is playing a dangerous game. I think he is trying to hold out for as long as possible to force clubs that want to offload players to take a smaller fee. In business this is a good ploy. In football it isn't!

If we don't sign anyone today the WOB's will be in full flight.

Would they not be justifed, Spuddy?

To go into the season proper without Giroud and with Sanogo as de facto number-one striker would certainly warrant serious questions as to whether Wenger is just taking the fucking piss.

Yes they would be......provided that they know it is down to him! The problem is that they don't and that is my whole point. AW is an easy target for fans frustrations. The problem is that none of us know how much of this type of decision making is down to him. We all (me included) assume that he has a massive hand in budgets etc., but we don't actually know that.

On the tactical side there is no doubt that he gets it wrong. Nobody can doubt that but he gets blamed for everything that goes wrong at the club and that is wrong.

It's easy for frustrated fans to sit behind their keyboards and pontificate about how AW is ruining our club. The problem with these fans is that they are doing so with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of what goes on at the club. When I sit here and read that people want him dead, or sent across the Ukraine in an aeroplane etc. I just think "what a wanker you are!"

I certainly don't think AW knows best all the time but I do think that 99.9% of this forum know absolutely fuck all about the inside workings of Arsenal Football Club. So what qualifies them to pass such damning criticism of a person that not only transformed our club but did so for football across Europe and guided us with some degree of stability through one of the most turmultuous periods of our history.

Criticise him by all means. I've said this a million times, but at least criticise him for what is actually his fault, not what you percieve to be.

[officepest]

Criticise him by all means. I've said this a million times, but at least criticise him for what is actually his fault, not what you percieve to be.

Forgive me for only addressing this point, Spuddy.

If we do not improve our front-line then I will most certainly lay the blame at Wenger's door.

[DB10GOONER]

If he doesn't bring anyone in today, the wheels will most definitely come off this year. We just do not have any depth and with rivals strengthening, even with Sanchez, we won't make the top 4.

We have played 5 and had a decent performance in one half of those games. He really should have walked at the end of last season when he had the fans goodwill, but the knives will be out if he brings no one in.

He has to bring in one or two today. I fear that he is playing a dangerous game. I think he is trying to hold out for as long as possible to force clubs that want to offload players to take a smaller fee. In business this is a good ploy. In football it isn't!

If we don't sign anyone today the WOB's will be in full flight.

Would they not be justifed, Spuddy?

To go into the season proper without Giroud and with Sanogo as de facto number-one striker would certainly warrant serious questions as to whether Wenger is just taking the fucking piss.

[rodders999]

Spuddy aside, anyone still for?

That woman down at number 36 with a house full of cats is a big fan I hear

[DB10GOONER]

Spuddy aside, anyone still for?

That woman down at number 36 with a house full of cats is a big fan I hear

Is she a rapper...?

[SPUDMASHER]

Spuddy aside, anyone still for?

Don't make assumptions about what I think or you'll probably get it wrong and look like a cock. I would like to see a change if he doesn't get it right this season but I don't want to see a change for the sake of change.

I don't think there are managers out there that could have maintained the stability of our position during recent times with the financial restrictions he has allegedly had to operate under. I do think there are managers out there that could replace him if they had money to spend.
If last years FA Cup was a fluke and we do nothing this year how many AKB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?
If he wins the double this year how many WOB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?
If we begin a new period of success how many WOB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?

My overall feeling is this:-

AKB's are blind. They cannot see anything except the positives.
WOB's are equally as blind as they cannot see anything except the negatives.

I'm in the middle of the two.
I think he is far from perfect and he makes mistakes but he isn't the personification of evil that some would have you believe.

[SPUDMASHER]

Criticise him by all means. I've said this a million times, but at least criticise him for what is actually his fault, not what you percieve to be.

Forgive me for only addressing this point, Spuddy.

If we do not improve our front-line then I will most certainly lay the blame at Wenger's door.

And that would be your perogative but on what basis would you lay that at his door?
Would it be on the basis that he has the money to spend and was too incompetent to buy a forward? If so, how would you support that argument? What proof would you have that it was his incompetence that caused it? It would all be based on assumptions, not facts.

I hear what you're saying and in all likelihood it would be his fault in that instance but there are many that would see it as his fault if the Islamic State blew up the stadium.

[DB10GOONER]

Spuddy aside, anyone still for?

Don't make assumptions about what I think or you'll probably get it wrong and look like a cock. I would like to see a change if he doesn't get it right this season but I don't want to see a change for the sake of change.

I don't think there are managers out there that could have maintained the stability of our position during recent times with the financial restrictions he has allegedly had to operate under. I do think there are managers out there that could replace him if they had money to spend.
If last years FA Cup was a fluke and we do nothing this year how many AKB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?
If he wins the double this year how many WOB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?
If we begin a new period of success how many WOB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?

My overall feeling is this:-

AKB's are blind. They cannot see anything except the positives.
WOB's are equally as blind as they cannot see anything except the negatives.

I'm in the middle of the two.
I think he is far from perfect and he makes mistakes but he isn't the personification of evil that some would have you believe.

I take your points Spuddy but I would say if he wins the double I'd only be too happy to say I got it wrong. I have no ego invested in this at all, I just want what's best for The Arsenal. And I firmly believe replacing Arsene is best. But I'd love to be proven wrong tbh.

Also, I think you forgot the majority group on here; the ones like me that still love him for what he did 97-06 but now want him gone because he is failing year after year as manager.

[SPUDMASHER]

I take your points Spuddy but I would say if he wins the double I'd only be too happy to say I got it wrong. I have no ego invested in this at all, I just want what's best for The Arsenal. And I firmly believe replacing Arsene is best. But I'd love to be proven wrong tbh.

Also, I think you forgot the majority group on here; the ones like me that still love him for what he did 97-06 but now want him gone because he is failing year after year as manager.

I know mate and as we've discussed before, I largely fall into that category too. I'm not against seeing a change now as we are definitely going stale and I think it might refresh our club but I cannot sit and listen to some of the total anti Wenger bollocks that I hear on here so often. Some of the people posting against him just sound like ungrateful fucking kids. They are lamenting the recent failures of our team but have totally forgotten how we got to the position of having such expectations and who it was that got us there!

He doesn't deserve the amount of shite that he gets.

[officepest]

If he wins the double this year how many WOB's would stand up and say they got it wrong?

I would wholeheartedly admit I have been wrong since '09 and that he is still a genius, but he won't, Spuddy, he just won't.

We needed a striker before Giroud somehow managed to snap his leg on some dangerous air, and if we don't sign one now I honestly don't know how you could say it's not Wenger's fault. It's not as if we couldn't afford it, no?

Look at who has moved already and tell me none of them would be preferable to Sanogo, seriously.