Danny Welbeck Signs (dont moan)

[augie]

Forget about media hype and forget about the "blowing it out of proportion" argument......nobody is seriously saying that le cock doesn't rate him, but what WE feel he is saying is that he isn't convinced by him. If the wenker defenders dispute that then answer these questions please -

1. If he believes in welbecks ability, then why did he only want to sign him on loan ? Maybe he wanted to take him on loan so that he could come to a definitive assessment one way or the other ? No matter what way you slant it, it still speaks loudly that he isn't convinced by wellbeck

2. If he is convinced by wellbeck then why not press to sign him full time from the get go ? Was it the price tag that put him off ? Does he not think that wellbeck is worth £16m ?

Personally I could understand if he is yet to be convinced about wellbeck and I would agree if he has concerns over his valuation, BUT he should NEVER have made a public statement about preferring to sign him on loan because it suggests a lack of confidence in the player. I don't care about his statement about whether it would have gone through or not had wenker not been on a jolly up and I find the suggestion about how the deal has pissed ferguscum off to be pathetic

Augie, I see the logic in that but I actually think it was for a totally different, and much more worrying, reason.

I think AW has such faith in Sanogoals and Giroud that he only wanted Wellbeck as a temporary solution whilst Giroud is out injured. That would make a loan sensible as he could offload him after one season as Giroud will be fit again and sanogoals will have 'come good'.
I personally don't think sanogoals will ever come good (happy to be wrong on this) and I dearly hope that Wellbeck gets the chance to make the position his own.

Fair do's, I hadn't considered the possibility that le cock only wanting him to cover for giroud That being said, it still does not send out positive messages to his new £16m striker - I think it sends out a "I don't believe that you are worth buying outright and I certainly wouldn't want you ahead of my two lovely French strikers", type of message to wellbeck and I fail to see any justification for wenker saying that he wanted to sign him on loan

Funnily enough, the wellbeck signing could be a watershed moment in le cocks current managerial status - many of us were underwhelmed by the wellbeck purchase, but every Gooner wants him to be picked at centre forward cos the thought of le postman becoming a regular starter scares the bejaysus out of us (I know there are other reasons but that is the one single reason where all of us agree). If le cock continues to pick le postman and/or plays wellbeck on the wing, then I think that wenker will feel the wrath of the crowd like never before and he will appear to be a petty spiteful c*nt who is rebelling against the signing of a player that he didn't want bought

[1989]

So many silly interpretations of what Wenger said in his presser regarding Welbz. You think Gazidis can overrule Wenger? You're having a fecking laugh.

[Zimgooner]

Telegraph says," Wenger spent the day with Sir Alex Ferguson at a Uefa conference last week but refused to say what his old adversary thought of United's controversial decision to sell Welbeck, a player had helped nurture since the age of eight.

“I would like to keep that to myself,” said Wenger, smiling. “We sold Robin van Persie to Man United, it is a reciprocity that happened.”

These are the two men that made the deal possible.........Wenger got Red Nose to do the work for him

[rodders999]

Telegraph says," Wenger spent the day with Sir Alex Ferguson at a Uefa conference last week but refused to say what his old adversary thought of United's controversial decision to sell Welbeck, a player had helped nurture since the age of eight.

“I would like to keep that to myself,” said Wenger, smiling. “We sold Robin van Persie to Man United, it is a reciprocity that happened.”

These are the two men that made the deal possible.........Wenger got Red Nose to do the work for him

The UEFA gig happened a day or 2 after the window closed so would doubt that very much. Duds the likes of Slyvestre would be all Sir-Drinks-A-Lot would sanction to come to us anyway.

[SPUDMASHER]

Whatever Wenger said/didn't say/meant/didn't mean about Wellbeck there is one thing that is for certain. Giving even the slightest indication that a player was not activily persued and wanted by the first team manager sends out a massive negative message to the player. How can Wellbeck now feel that he has made the right move? His confidence will have been dented by this and it cannot have a positive outcome. Wenger has royally fucked up by opening his mouth

[DB10GOONER]

So many silly interpretations of what Wenger said in his presser regarding Welbz. You think Gazidis can overrule Wenger? You're having a fecking laugh.

You type the word "Welbz" on here one more time and I'm banning you. And no that isn't "bant".











Well, yeah, it is really!

[DB10GOONER]

Posted this on the Wenger thread but too fucking old and lazy to bother rewriting it;


Very strange stuff this. Why make such stupid petty comments? Why open yourself up to be taken out of context? And the media will take it out of context. Fucking idiotic.

Not defending the latest bout of buffoonery by Arsene here, but I do think he was implying he would have opted for a loan with an option to buy rather than an outright purchase. Don't think he's saying he didn't want him but that's the line the media will fuck off down in the coming days/weeks; "Wenger never wanted Welbeck".

But the bigger issue here yet again is Arsene has let his hurt pride/ego/vanity come before what is good for the club. Welbeck was flicked by Manure, VanButthead is in the media saying Welbeck wasn't good enough for Manure. Welbeck's confidence is bound to be affected by this and strikers more than any other players work primarily on confidence.

What should his new manager be saying then? He should be saying "Welbeck is great, he's brilliant, we are thrilled to have signed him, it's Manure's loss etc etc". Build the lad's confidence up, try and get the best out of him for the good of the club, wether you fucking wanted him or not.

What does Arsene do? He basically says "Meh. I wouldn't really have signed him. He's not great. Meh."

I was very meh myself about Welbeck's signing tbh. Most of us were. But I really hope he fucking turns it on and rams those stupid words down Arsene's throat and, as a bonus, that would be for the good of the club, maybe not for Arsene's ego, but for the club.


Arsenal FC not Arsene FC.

[mojokickin]

Posted this on the Wenger thread but too fucking old and lazy to bother rewriting it;


Very strange stuff this. Why make such stupid petty comments? Why open yourself up to be taken out of context? And the media will take it out of context. Fucking idiotic.

Not defending the latest bout of buffoonery by Arsene here, but I do think he was implying he would have opted for a loan with an option to buy rather than an outright purchase. Don't think he's saying he didn't want him but that's the line the media will fuck off down in the coming days/weeks; "Wenger never wanted Welbeck".

But the bigger issue here yet again is Arsene has let his hurt pride/ego/vanity come before what is good for the club. Welbeck was flicked by Manure, VanButthead is in the media saying Welbeck wasn't good enough for Manure. Welbeck's confidence is bound to be affected by this and strikers more than any other players work primarily on confidence.

What should his new manager be saying then? He should be saying "Welbeck is great, he's brilliant, we are thrilled to have signed him, it's Manure's loss etc etc". Build the lad's confidence up, try and get the best out of him for the good of the club, wether you fucking wanted him or not.

What does Arsene do? He basically says "Meh. I wouldn't really have signed him. He's not great. Meh."

I was very meh myself about Welbeck's signing tbh. Most of us were. But I really hope he fucking turns it on and rams those stupid words down Arsene's throat and, as a bonus, that would be for the good of the club, maybe not for Arsene's ego, but for the club.


Arsenal FC not Arsene FC.

Exactly! Terrible for a manager to throw a player to the wolves so early!! Come on Welbeck! Prove the old deluded fool wrong.

[Herd]

Wellbeck has every reason to come out of the traps flying .

1. Rejected by UTD
2. Score 2 for Engerland
3. Man City , his natural enemy
4. Van Gaal slags him off saying not good enough !

Wengers Weird mutterings shouldn't affect him too much but they do worry me , Well becks agent was told in Week 34 that he could leave by Van Gaal ,as MUFC were going to buy a top notch striker !

For Wenger to suggest he didn't know he was for sale until some 10 days later is absurd in the extreme and smacks of trying to Justify why he was AWOL on the most important day of the season where football isn't played as he has been many times !

[Theoperator]

Ive a nasty nasty feeling that Sanogo will start V Citeh, if that happens Wenger will display such undoubted arrogance to all at The Arsenal that he will majorly regret.

Wellbeck (Welbz- WTF ) on at 70 mins and scores a hat trick

[OneBardGooner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29164940

The bloated melted facial version of Beavis is turning out to be true to manscum form - and having a dig at Welbeck - and trying to justify why he sold him to us....Ceeeeeuunnttt

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29164940

[DB10GOONER]

Ive a nasty nasty feeling that Sanogo will start V Citeh, if that happens Wenger will display such undoubted arrogance to all at The Arsenal that he will majorly regret.

Honestly, I'll be shocked if Wenger DOESN'T start SanoGoals with Welbeck on the bench or, at best, out wide. I'll be SHOCKED I tells ya!! SHOCKED!

The Ego must come before The Club.

Arsenal FC not Arsene FC.

[rigsby]

So John Cross was on Talksport this morning. Whilst I know most think he's a huge arse licker, he did seem to confirm that Wenger was at the event with someone senior over at United which meant he was given the indication Welbeck was available.

On the loan comment, seems to be blown out of proportion. He said he was happy to do a permanent deal. That sort of ends it as controversial.

[augie]

Whatever Wenger said/didn't say/meant/didn't mean about Wellbeck there is one thing that is for certain. Giving even the slightest indication that a player was not activily persued and wanted by the first team manager sends out a massive negative message to the player. How can Wellbeck now feel that he has made the right move? His confidence will have been dented by this and it cannot have a positive outcome. Wenger has royally fucked up by opening his mouth

I really cannot see how the wenker followers cant see past this reality - they are blowing a lot of smoke about how wenker never said that he wouldn't buy him, or that gazidas never went over wenkers head to sign him and they have thrown some sort of alliance with ferguscum that led to his signature, and all that is speculation but the bottom line is that le cock did actually come out and say that he would preferred to sign him on loan and you cannot escape that fact. A manager should NEVER say that publicly about a new signing and only a braindead footballer (granted there are a lot of them ) would see that as anything less than a lack of total commitment to his signing

[DB10GOONER]

Whatever Wenger said/didn't say/meant/didn't mean about Wellbeck there is one thing that is for certain. Giving even the slightest indication that a player was not activily persued and wanted by the first team manager sends out a massive negative message to the player. How can Wellbeck now feel that he has made the right move? His confidence will have been dented by this and it cannot have a positive outcome. Wenger has royally fucked up by opening his mouth

I really cannot see how the wenker followers cant see past this reality - they are blowing a lot of smoke about how wenker never said that he wouldn't buy him, or that gazidas never went over wenkers head to sign him and they have thrown some sort of alliance with ferguscum that led to his signature, and all that is speculation but the bottom line is that le cock did actually come out and say that he would preferred to sign him on loan and you cannot escape that fact. A manager should NEVER say that publicly about a new signing and only a braindead footballer (granted there are a lot of them ) would see that as anything less than a lack of total commitment to his signing

Again, I will quote from my stunningly insightful original post;

"What should his new manager be saying then? He should be saying "Welbeck is great, he's brilliant, we are thrilled to have signed him, it's Manure's loss etc etc". Build the lad's confidence up, try and get the best out of him for the good of the club, wether you fucking wanted him or not."

Words do it no justice.