THE WENGER THREAD

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markyp
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the problem is now that hes determined to stay to right the wrongs of the past 10 years,unfortuntely he hasn't a fucking clue how to do it and doesn't even realise this and even worse he doesn't realise the problem is him,its only the AKB idiots who keep him in a job,he is the most clueless Arsenal Manager of all time,to have all that money to spend and lets face it we do have a squad that alot of europes teams would love and shelled out a fair few quid this past year but to be going backwards is laughable,wenker doesn't even know hes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past it,the guys a loon :banghead:

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This is a great example of an autocracy. Once efficient and prosperous, now decrepit and falling into ruin.

He is no Sir Alex, let him go now!

Admittedly I was distracted by signing of Sanchez and thought things were changing. But I thought the only real proof if Arsene has changed was if he bought a DM. He didn't, and thus this season will be no different to the past 8 ones.

I honestly am no longer emotional about Arsenal. I saw the team win the FA Cup I was delighted but I knew as long as that man is in charge the club will never reach it's potential. He's holding us back because of his stupid ideology.

He's un-sackable so we just have to wait until 2017.

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Supagoon wrote:Can only look forward to 2017. Wake me up when we get there.
33 months to go - we should have a countdown clock.

we gave them 23 shots tonight, thats consistent with what we used to do to norwich, everton, west ham etc when we'd dick them by 5 or 6 goals.

in short, our midfield gave zero protection to our back four.

the mix is all wrong.

in europe, George taught us that your first job is to defend as a team - tets and flamini aren't fit enough, ozil doesn't want to, neither does jack. you can let jack off if you line up three players who will take responsibility for protecting the back four off the ball, and will bomb forward when in possession or play in the full backs.

but otherwise the mix is not there.

we needed a holding DM, a disrupter, and a link man - when i said go for Cavalho, schneidelin and Khedira i was not kidding chaps.

we need players that coudl really put a shift in like parlour did, like freddie did, tracking back, putting their foot in.

look at the 1998 midfield :

overmars - vieira - petit - parlour. only overmars had no defensive responsibility. the other three were super fit and worked their chuddies off.

look at the 2004 midfield :

Pires - vieira - Gilberto - ljunberg. only pires had no defensive role, the other three were super fit and worked their chuddies off.

we have ozil, tets and jack, no of whom is either fit enough or wants to track back.

if ozil wants to play that game, he HAS to go up top and play sanchez wide left.

sanchez-ramsay-jack-ox

with welbeck and ozil up top.

wenger just doesn't get that.

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Arteta would have been shoved out the door at Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge three years ago.......at Arsenal he's made club captain and starts every week!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Shooting the cuntbag is too good for him - he deserves to suffer like he has made us suffer :twisted:

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Please please please just fucking fuck off! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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The sight and voice of Wenger really really pissed me off. I never thought i would dislike him to such extent.

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defleppardisking wrote:I have this feeling that Ozil could be off next summer
should've been off this summer

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During tonight's game, I was really pissed off, but couldn't care now, as it is all too predictable. We meet a half decent team, don't show up, and get stuffed, except Dortmund's poor shooting meant it was only 2, when it could have been 5 or 6, which doesn't bode well for some of our away trips to places like Stamford Bridge, or the Ethiad. Also, how can we honestly go into a champions league game, with Arteta as a defensive midfielder, the guy is finished, but of course Wenger will persist with him, all through the season, and he will stubbornly ignore any calls for a defensive midfielder to be bought in January. The next few seasons are going to be a write off, as far as im concerned, as nothing will ever change until Wenger leaves.

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TeeCee wrote:Arteta would have been shoved out the door at Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge three years ago.......at Arsenal he's made club captain and starts every week!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
everybody in the media and the fans and pundits told him to buy a DM and STUBBORN Wenger's response was not only to not buy one but to give him the armband precisely because it was a big word : :censored: to all of us who haven't spent 30 years in football.

Stubborn Arrogant Pig. :banghead:

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Let's face it, Wenger is not going to jump and he's not going to be pushed......how much does a hit man cost these days?
I want him gone so badly it hurts, his biggest crime as far as I personally am concerned is that he has stopped me caring about results, I used to get so wound up about games now I must don't give a monkeys anymore
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Humoresque wrote:
TeeCee wrote:Arteta would have been shoved out the door at Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge three years ago.......at Arsenal he's made club captain and starts every week!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
everybody in the media and the fans and pundits told him to buy a DM and STUBBORN Wenger's response was not only to not buy one but to give him the armband precisely because it was a big word : :censored: to all of us who haven't spent 30 years in football.

Stubborn Arrogant Pig. :banghead:
"For people in England the solution is always to buy buy buy, but buying doesn’t guarantee success"
Arsene Wenger 2008-2014.

Don't get your hopes up mate. :roll:

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Humoresque wrote:
defleppardisking wrote:I have this feeling that Ozil could be off next summer
should've been off this summer
The problem is Ozil has no interest in playing a defensive game and I think it's pissed him off that he has been forced out of position and expected to do that role. I'm making no excuses for his obvious lack of effort which at times is disgraceful but i'm pretty sure when Wenger convinced him to join he DIDN'T say "Mezut, you are one of if not the best number 10 in the world and we'd really like you to join us so we can convert you into a Winger. Oh and by the way you'll be expected to track back and at times when Gibbs is injured (most matches then) you'll need to work doubly hard to cover skinny santos who by the way is utter shite!".

At bigger teams you may have the luxury of having a surplus of world class players that you can afford to push one out of position but we don't have that here. What I don't get is why the fuck he spent all that money on him to push him out of position when we could have spent less and got a proper winger, or more to the point why he bought one of the worlds best number tens only to not play him in the role he had won such acclaim for!?

And finally how can that cunttard watch him week in week out as we do and not come to the conclusion that "maybe, just maybe although extremely improbable as it may sound, it might, just might and it's only a possibility mind you, i'm not saying it definitely is but i'm just putting it out there, it could be my fault? Maybe he should play in the position he's famous for?...........No, there must be another reason as i'm infallible after acrueing 30+ years in football, yes that's it, it must be someone elses fault"

As i said, i'm not defending his work ethic but I'd be royaly pissed off if I was him. He was plaing his position as a regular for Real Madrid and now he must be asking how the fuck he is suddenly not good enough to play it for our shower of shit when (although different positions) Arteta is an automatic pick in the Arsenal midfield when in reality he would be struggling in the championship imho.

WengeryouAbsolutecunt :banghead: :twisted: fucking hate this prick with a vengence now

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greengooner wrote:Let's face it, Wenger is not going to jump and he's not going to be pushed......how much does a hit man cost these days?
I want him gone so badly it hurts, his biggest crime as far as I personally am concerned is that he has stopped me caring about results, I used to get so wound up about games now I must don't give a monkeys anymore


I'll chip in a few quid - fcuk it I might even pay the full price if the price is reasonable 8)

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Annoyed, frustrated, angry, disappointed, and most worryingly now actually bored when we play! Any quality manager would get a tune out of these players, would change tactics between games depending on the opposition, would play players in their correct positions, and would see obvious deficiencies in defence and midfield and would sort it out! The man has completely lost the plot and has to be forced out. This can't go on for 3 years!

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