Victims FC back in Europe

[SPUDMASHER]

They are scum of the highest order.

If I were The Sun's editor I would print a copy of that banner across the front page of the paper to show the world what a bunch of *word censored* they are.

[Blood_Gooner]

Ban that disrespectful fucker who thinks we are morons for calling the dippers Victims FC.

He has no place among proper Gooners.

[northbank123]

I was brought up after Liverpool's era of dominance and I can't stand the fuckers. One near miss at the title and is have given my right bollock to see Stevie G slip and blow it. Imagine if they were as successful as United had been. I can't imagine how much those who were round in the 80s must hate them.

[SteveO 35]

Back in Europe.....and back being awarded dodgy penalties in front of the Kop. Just like the 70s and 80s

[StuartL]

Ban that disrespectful fucker who thinks we are morons for calling the dippers Victims FC.

He has no place among proper Gooners.

Would like to think he just misunderstands why they are called victims ?

Its not referring to Hillsborough deaths, just their mentality that nothing is ever their fault....playing the victim.

[storrmin571]

Saw this yesterday http://news.sky.com/story/1340160/hills ... -policeman

[Irish Gooner]

The victims are a vile breed. Its no coincidence this thread is filled with Irish posters, because every 2 bob degenerate scumbag on this isle follows that club.

[DB10GOONER]

Saw this yesterday http://news.sky.com/story/1340160/hills ... -policeman

Oh God don't mention the fact that many of their fans were drunk, aggressive and pushed their way in!! The fucking Victim FC fans don't accept that! They did nothing wrong that day!! It was all the police's fault.

As much as I have genuine sympathy for the 96 people that died that day, I have nothing but disgust for the hundreds (thousands?) of Victim FC fans that contributed largely to the tragedy but will never ever admit or accept their own culpability for those terrible deaths. The poisonous irony of their yearly media memorial for Hillsborough, whilst brushing the murders of 39 innocent people in Heysel under the carpet, just makes them even more disgusting to me.

I know a Victim FC fan in work, an ST holder of long standing, who was in Athens and watched in disgust as his fellow Victim FC fans stormed the turnstiles, mugged each other for tickets, took tickets from women and children, spat at and threw things at police and stewards... he saw it all. He said he'd never go away in Europe to watch them again.

[storrmin571]

it took ages to find that online - tried BBC Mailonline nothing, eventually found it on sky. Buried under a pile and not mentioned on mainstream media tv.

[Herd]

Oh God don't mention the fact that many of their fans were drunk, aggressive and pushed their way in!! The fucking Victim FC fans don't accept that! They did nothing wrong that day!! It was all the police's fault.

DB in lets support the OB shocker, fuck me you love em, are u a peeler yerself there ?

I hate the victims for their airbrushing out Heysel but they were stitched up for Hillsborough for sure .

Not saying they were choir boys BUT Police incompetence in the ground and negligence in planning,coupled with poor stadium design had far more to do with it than the fans bad acts .

They have culpability in that that loads jibbed in ,a common custom oat the time which was easily preventable by dibble !

What Maggie and the sun did to them was nothing short of slander

JUSTICE FOR THE 96 !

[Chips and Chocolate]

Oh God don't mention the fact that many of their fans were drunk, aggressive and pushed their way in!! The fucking Victim FC fans don't accept that! They did nothing wrong that day!! It was all the police's fault.

DB in lets support the OB shocker, fuck me you love em, are u a peeler yerself there ?

I hate the victims for their airbrushing out Heysel but they were stitched up for Hillsborough for sure .

Not saying they were choir boys BUT Police incompetence in the ground and negligence in planning,coupled with poor stadium design had far more to do with it than the fans bad acts .

They have culpability in that that loads jibbed in ,a common custom oat the time which was easily preventable by dibble !

What Maggie and the sun did to them was nothing short of slander

JUSTICE FOR THE 96 !

Common sense at last!

[DB10GOONER]

Oh God don't mention the fact that many of their fans were drunk, aggressive and pushed their way in!! The fucking Victim FC fans don't accept that! They did nothing wrong that day!! It was all the police's fault.

DB in lets support the OB shocker, fuck me you love em, are u a peeler yerself there ?

I hate the victims for their airbrushing out Heysel but they were stitched up for Hillsborough for sure .

Not saying they were choir boys BUT Police incompetence in the ground and negligence in planning,coupled with poor stadium design had far more to do with it than the fans bad acts .

They have culpability in that that loads jibbed in ,a common custom oat the time which was easily preventable by dibble !

What Maggie and the sun did to them was nothing short of slander

JUSTICE FOR THE 96 !

Nope, not OB but I work with a few of them in different capacities and I get to see the other side of the coin. I just can't stand that simplistic "all cops are bad" shite. There are bad ones and there are good ones, like in any walk of life. But I've also gotten to see up close some of the absolute vermin they deal with on a daily basis as well and am a tad sympathetic towards many of them that deal with that shit all day every day.

Regarding Hillsborough, there is no doubt at all that there was gross negligence and gross imcompetence on behalf of the police that day as well as a crumbling shit old stadium and poor planning and they were massively contributing factors in the deaths of (let's not forget) mostly people that arrived early/on time and with tickets. And I've never said any different.

What is also a FACT however is that hundreds of scouse fuckers turned up late, lashed out of it and stormed the gates, were aggressive, violent, and abusive, and refused to listen to common sense. THESE are the fuckers I have a problem with and these fuckers will never take responsibility for their own actions. But also the average scouser will never admit or accept that their own fans were also culpable - if they hadn't arrived late, lashed up, and aggressive without tickets, then the tragedy would NOT have happened. At least not that day.

I also hate that attitude of "it's always someone in authority's fault". Fucking despise that attitude of "well no one stopped me being a cúnt so I just had to be a cúnt". Fuck that. Everyone is responsible for their own behaviour.

Justice for the 96. Absolutely. But let's have repurcussions for the fuckers that helped kill the poor innocent 96.

[Bradywasking]

Would agree with DB10's comments and not just about Liverpool or their fans but about life in general. There are too many out there that have no respect for law and order believing that they are above it.
My issue with Liverpool and their fans is the one of denial and airbrushing of history. No one should go to a football game and never go home. Those responsible for tragedy , whether in Sheffield or Brussels, should be accountable regardless of who they are .

[Herd]

So basically you’re the head of your local neighbourhood watch and occasional paid informant or are u in the wheel clamping division of the local authority

I love it in when people scream FACT in bold to re-enforce their Bullshit to dress it as fact

Here is an extract from The Hillsborough Independent Panel which can be found on http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/ they know a little more than you and me on this .

Known Facts

153. Consistent with Lord Justice Taylor's findings, the Panel found no evidence among the vast number of disclosed documents and many hours of video material to verify the serious allegations of exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans. There was no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium and force entry and no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying. Documents show that fans became frustrated by the inadequate response to the unfolding tragedy. The vast majority of fans on the pitch assisted in rescuing and evacuating the injured and the dead.

So much for your FACT there Kojak !

Hillsborough was an accident waiting to happen , it was entirely foreseeable by anyone who has been to the ground for previous semi’s .
There were only 2 entrances’ to the terraces and they are situated at either end of the terrace with no escape possible to the back .
When the OB made the decision to open the gates and let them in all at once they effectively signed the death warrants of the 96 !

There had been massive crushes in that same corner when we played Liverpool in 1980 and the same the next year when our neighbours played there .
There were many safety recommendations issued then and never acted on by SWFC, or the FA .
The ground didn’t have an updated safety certificate either something the Police ,Sheffield Wednesday and the FA should all shoulder the blame for .

In recent previous years the Police sensibly had a buffer Zone so that approach to the turnstiles could be regulated from the street ,and that ticketless fans couldn’t get near let alone storm the gate.
If they ,if they had followed the same action plan ,it is highly unlikely anyone would have died ,again that’s the Polices fuck up they are in charge of crowd control !
As the tragedy began Police were seen smashing the fingers of the desperate fans climbing the fences ....Nice !

The OB the State and the Tory Press eagerly participated in an active smear campaign to shift all blame onto the mousers which many wrongly bought into and the police led a massive conspiracy to
pervert the course of justice to mask their own and others criminal acts !

You want to bring those responsible to Justice ?

Start with the OB the FA ans SWFC !

Many of the Coppers who were there that day sued the Police for compo and got huge payouts ,far more than any of the victims got .

[SPUDMASHER]

What was learned that day though?
In the context of being a bin dipper I would suggest it was fuck all. They still turn up without tickets and try to force two at a time through the turnstiles. Every year Arsenal stewards eject bin dippers from our ground that don't have tickets. They're the only club we have this problem with.
In the context of being a plod I would suggest that plenty was learned and has changed as a result.

Bin Dipping victim *word censored* are the scurge of football supporters across the world.