Cazorla, Rosicky and German Eboue should be moved on

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Should we get rid

Sell all 3
7
15%
Keep Podolski
7
15%
Keep Cazorla
16
34%
Keep Rosicky
13
28%
Keep them all and offer a pay rise
4
9%
 
Total votes: 47

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Cazorla, Rosicky and German Eboue should be moved on

Post by Irish Gooner »

I havent posted here in a while and this is probably rubbish but I need to vent after watching that Southampton game amongst others. These 3 players would be high on my list of people that this club need shot of. I wont waste time debating about Diaby because we all know its just negligence that hes still here stealing a living.

This match showed why rubbish like Rosicky and Podolski have no business here anymore. These are vastly vastly experienced international players who've been moaning about playing time, but when they get the chance what do they do?? They saunter around not giving a fuck, and Rosicky actually loses us the game with a stupid tackle you'd expect from the 17 year old defenders.

Podolski aka the German Eboue is robbing this club over 100k a week and all the guy can do is shoot, and even then he missed his chance. He has no pace, no skill, no work rate and most of all the guy can not make runs. Its so evident when he attempts to play in the middle or tries out wide compared to other players. The good thing is its clear Wenger does not rate Podolski that much and I'd imagine barring Girouds injury this clown be long out of here. I'm struggling to recall Wenger ever signing a forward so physically and technically awful possibly with the exception of Francis Jeffers. Whats more he spends his days fucking around on Twitter and Instagram, and all he does now is take selfies. This man is the stereotype of a "I've made it now, I couldnt give a fuck anymore" and who could blame him being rewarded with 100k a week plus contracts for average performance?

Cazorla for me has been dreadful for quite some time even now his stupid smile is gone. Rosicky and Cazorla are basically the same player both of them are past their best and just going through the motions every match, and we depend on these to make an impact as subs?? I could go on and on but most people are aware already I'm sure. These players are just the tip of the iceberg of the LOSER mentality at this club and why we will never win a League or European Cup under Wenger. To win you need a winning mentality which this club lost 10 years ago and scraping an FA Cup clearly has not changed anything. Look at any match against a decent side this season we've been 2nd best.

:banghead:

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Re: Cazorla, Rosicky and German Eboue should be moved on

Post by QuartzGooner »

Last night's game was poor, but it was a mix and match team with a few rusty players.

We had a whole thread where it was mooted that Cazorla should be sold.

I wrote we should not sell him because he was a good passer, but I now feel he could probably be sold without adversely affecting the team, but with Ozil and Wilshere's inconsistent form I would keep him until the summer then decide.

Rosicky made a tackling error last night, but on the whole he has a good work rate and makes things happen, and can play anywhere in midfield.
I would keep him, useful bench option.

Podolski offers low work rate.
I think he is actually best as a number 10, but that's just a hunch, not seen him play there for us yet!
The thing is that over the course of the season he offers a good goal to game ratio for someone playing wide left midfield.
For what it is worth, I think he will be sold or loaned in January anyway, with Oxlade-Chamberlain and a fit-again Gnabry playing more.
I think Podolski is only at the club because of Giroud's injury, with Wenger deciding to keep him in case a striker could not be found, and play him up front as a last resort.
He surely cannot be happy to keep being on the bench, and at 29 could almost certainly be a starter back in the Bundesliga.

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Post by officepest »

Irish Gooner wrote: These players are just the tip of the iceberg of the LOSER mentality at this club and why we will never win a League or European Cup under Wenger.

:banghead:
Wenger is the reason we will never win the European Cup. Lost to a Chelsea side we'd beaten 3 times in '04 and the only appearance in a final was '06 - awful record in Europe.

Ship out whoever you like, they'll be replaced like-for like and the cycle continues.

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Post by GranadaJoe »

Rosicky's done well over the last two seasons and I'd keep him. Good pace, passing, effort and movement.

I like Santi, but he's very lightweight and doesn't have a particularly good workrate. May be best to ship him on now while he's got some value in the market.

Pod seems like a top bloke but he's not a top player anymore and doesn't even try hard, which is inexcusable. His wages might make him hard to sell but I think we should try.

Ox, Gnabry represent better options.

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Post by 1989 »

Cazorla is class, Rosicky is still useful, Podolski is shite and would have been on his bike if not for Ollie's injury

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Post by worthing_gooner »

Never really understood the Cazorla hate (or lack of appreciation at any rate). He's one of our most naturally gifted players, quality touch, passing, can score goals. I can think of four or five midfielders we need to be shifting before him. Again, also not a left winger and therefore it's hardly surprising he's not excelling there, but then this is what Wenger gets for having a squad full of centre mids and number 10s.

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Option 5, by the way. :mrgreen:

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I have no idea why anyone could consider it a good idea to sell Cazorla. Rosicky & Podolski, yes. But Cazorla is different gravy.

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***** post,Rosicky and Pod are clearly rusty,i really don't get how people here think that any player can play one game and show true form,its total madness at any level,and as for Cazorla if he played for city or chavski we'd be moaning that we never buy players as good as him :shock:

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it's difficult for players that never get game time to just step up to the plate all of a sudden and deliver against a quality soton side. bit of a kneejerker this thread

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Post by Midz »

Rosicky is well past his best and a huge drain on the club's finances.
Podolski has a shot on him (at times) and little else to offer so selling him would be good for us.
Cazorla is a handy squad player to have so I'd keep him.

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Post by Theoperator »

Pod really is a lumbering player these days with a seemingly low desire. Sure he will go sooner than later. Has TR7 just had a one year extension? Should be left at that.

As for Santi, he was great 2 seasons ago and dire too often last season, though will always cherish his brilliant goal in the FA cup final last year.

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I would happily do without Rosicky - he has been good in periods the last few years but ultimately he's not going to be playing unless he's desperate and then even if he's fit he'll be rusty. Like Arteta though he is one of Wenger's favourites, and no doubt he will be on the same very healthy wage he has been for his entire career with us.

Podolski just doesn't fit. Never has. Add to this the fact he is now getting far less game time and he's just not going to add much to the squad. Especially at £100k/w should have been offloaded. Pity it didn't work out, wish it had but stringing this experiment out isn't improving anything.

I really rate Cazorla. For me Ozil has to be inked in at 10 and Cazorla is too lightweight to play as a CM, and that is why we aren't seeing the best out of him. But as an option out wide and a back-up/cover option at 10 he is a fantastic player to have imo. That first half of 2012/13 he was phenomenal in a dull team before Wenger shunted him out wide in favour of Rosicky.

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Post by clockender1 »

sell wilshire for 30 million, keep Caz as back up to Ozil. rotate them. keep them both fresh and playing in the 10 Slot.

Rosicky though i like - put him in the middle instead of tets.

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Post by gp543 »

Midz wrote:Rosicky is well past his best and a huge drain on the club's finances.
Podolski has a shot on him (at times) and little else to offer so selling him would be good for us.
Cazorla is a handy squad player to have so I'd keep him.
Given recent reports, that's simply not true.

I don't see the point in selling Rosicky, as we aren't going to get anything for him.

Might be able to nick 7-10 mil for Podolski from a German club.

Cazorla still a key element for me and no reason to sell him.

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