Galatasaray (H)

[northbank123]

Sacked? Wenger?

They will never sack him. He will never walk away under any sort of pressure because it's an acknowledgement that he's not doing a great job and/or there's somebody else who could do a better job.

[Ray C]

Please would one of you experts name the replacement manager for Wenger as you seem to think he is totally responsible for the players performances !. Maybe we do it like Chelsea & replace them every year things don't go quite as hoped for. I don't like to see us lose any game even if we do play shit football - which we don't. 1 - 0 to us with no more injuries will do.

[gp543]

Please would one of you experts name the replacement manager for Wenger as you seem to think he is totally responsible for the players performances !. Maybe we do it like Chelsea & replace them every year things don't go quite as hoped for. I don't like to see us lose any game even if we do play shit football - which we don't. 1 - 0 to us with no more injuries will do.

Any of the following: Jorge Jesus, Jurgen Klopp, Diego Simeone, Rudi Garcia, Antonio Conte

Only knock on Jesus is that he is nearly as old and hasn't done it in a major league, but then again, neither did Wenger before he came to the Arsenal.

[VAVAVOOM 14]

Please would one of you experts name the replacement manager for Wenger as you seem to think he is totally responsible for the players performances !. Maybe we do it like Chelsea & replace them every year things don't go quite as hoped for. I don't like to see us lose any game even if we do play shit football - which we don't. 1 - 0 to us with no more injuries will do.

You make it sound as if Wenger is in his first season and made made an error in team selection; he's been here 18 years FFS and gets the same sh*t wrong season after season.

[mojokickin]

Please would one of you experts name the replacement manager for Wenger as you seem to think he is totally responsible for the players performances !. Maybe we do it like Chelsea & replace them every year things don't go quite as hoped for. I don't like to see us lose any game even if we do play shit football - which we don't. 1 - 0 to us with no more injuries will do.

[DB10GOONER]

Please would one of you experts name the replacement manager for Wenger as you seem to think he is totally responsible for the players performances !. Maybe we do it like Chelsea & replace them every year things don't go quite as hoped for. I don't like to see us lose any game even if we do play shit football - which we don't. 1 - 0 to us with no more injuries will do.

Oh, for fucks sake, mate. We've had and destroyed that argument on here 5 years ago! No one, NO ONE has ever suggested we want to see a rediculous chav or tottingham solution where we roll out a new manager every year. That's a stupid thing to imply. No one can say Wenger hasn't been given the chance to correct his mistakes. No one can call us fickle in this matter. He's been here 18 years, delivered 1 trophy in the last 9 years (and was lucky to win that), has repeated the same mistakes year after year; overpaying poor quality players, extending contracts for players that should be sold or released, failing to build a decent squad that can push for trophies for the whole season rather than until March, failing to prepare properly before going to oponents' grounds resulting in 8-2, 6-0, 5-0, and 6-3 hidings, failing to be pragmatic and letting his ego dictate to the extent that he constantly plays players out of position resulting in them failing to deliver, and consistantly showing he has no grasp of tactics and is inflexible in a modern game that demands tactical flexibility and savy.

As for replacement managers, I'd take Martinez, Klopp or Simeone in a heartbeat. And so what if they then fail? Give them 3 years to build their team. It can't be any worse than this current stagnation whereby we scrap for 4th every season, scrape out of CL groups we should win then get knocked out by the first decent team we meet, and (usually) sacrifice the winnable cups to concentrate on the CL which we cannot win. It's like groundhog season every season.

I love Wenger for what he did between 1996 and 2006 but that was a different Wenger. He needs to go now. There was an Arsenal long before Wenger arrived and there will be long after he's gone.

Arsenal FC NOT Arsene FC.

[Gunner Rob]

Please would one of you experts name the replacement manager for Wenger as you seem to think he is totally responsible for the players performances !. Maybe we do it like Chelsea & replace them every year things don't go quite as hoped for. I don't like to see us lose any game even if we do play shit football - which we don't. 1 - 0 to us with no more injuries will do.

it really is laughable how some supporters think the Arsenal success started with Arsene.
here is a really scary stat:

in the last 9 years we have won 1 FA Cup
in the 9 years before Wenger joined we won 2 league titles, 1 FA Cup, 2 League Cups and we even won the European Cup Winners Cup!!

Wenger merely carried on success at the club. His last 9 years have been almost utter failure.

[Theoperator]

No one, NO ONE has ever suggested we want to see a rediculous chav or tottingham solution where we roll out a new manager every year. That's a stupid thing to imply. No one can say Wenger hasn't been given the chance to correct his mistakes. No one can call us fickle in this matter. He's been here 18 years, delivered 1 trophy in the last 9 years (and was lucky to win that), has repeated the same mistakes year after year; overpaying poor quality players, extending contracts for players that should be sold or released, failing to build a decent squad that can push for trophies for the whole season rather than until March, failing to prepare properly before going to oponents' grounds resulting in 8-2, 6-0, 5-0, and 6-3 hidings, failing to be pragmatic and letting his ego dictate to the extent that he constantly plays players out of position resulting in them failing to deliver, and consistantly showing he has no grasp of tactics and is inflexible in a modern game that demands tactical flexibility and savy.

Not fence sitting again there DB10 are you (Good posting BTW, v good)

[Bradywasking]

We have been walking blindly into traps for the last six or so years. I say traps but the opposition have not had to work too hard to design and set the traps. It's October and we are miles away from the promise and enthusiasm of the summer. Yes we bought well but not enough, we are already in the middle of an injury crisis and with internationals to come you can certainly add to that list. But most of all we are not improving on the pitch. Two league wins and a qualifier in Ch League win in ten competitive games. The same failings , the same lack of conviction and the same manager. yes it's his fault.
Galatasary tonight may be enough (if we win) to satisfy those who still believe and believe in the manager and no doubt they will take it as proof of his worthiness. But after that is Chelsea and we are , in my opinion, further behind them than we were for the 0-6 and that is with our new signings. This forum may go into meltdown Sunday evening.
Tedious 1-0 or 2-1 tonight.

[spike241]

Same old, same old.

WOB: Wenger isn't good enough anymore, we make the same mistakes every year. I think he should go

AKB: So a few players get injured and suddenly we should get rid of our manager just like Chavs, Spurs etc. Then we can change our manager every season when they don't win the quadruple, the World cup and spend a billion pounds on new signings every summer.
Who could we possibly get to replace Wenger/Giroud/Arteta? Who could possibly foresee that we would have so many injuries (it's not like that's happened before)?

They just don't understand that all we want is some proper bloody ambition! Not the bare minimum and non-existent tactics every fucking season!

[Theoperator]

We have been walking blindly into traps for the last six or so years. I say traps but the opposition have not had to work too hard to design and set the traps. It's October and we are miles away from the promise and enthusiasm of the summer. Yes we bought well but not enough, we are already in the middle of an injury crisis and with internationals to come you can certainly add to that list. But most of all we are not improving on the pitch. Two league wins and a qualifier in Ch League win in ten competitive games. The same failings , the same lack of conviction and the same manager. yes it's his fault.
Galatasary tonight may be enough (if we win) to satisfy those who still believe and believe in the manager and no doubt they will take it as proof of his worthiness. But after that is Chelsea and we are , in my opinion, further behind them than we were for the 0-6 and that is with our new signings. This forum may go into meltdown Sunday evening.
Tedious 1-0 or 2-1 tonight.

With great regret I believe you are spot on there.

Wenger has often somehow seemed to defy the odds when the chips are down, but somehow just cant see it this time, major injuries will see to it though of course he will have the perfect excuse ready

[Gunner Rob]

We have been walking blindly into traps for the last six or so years. I say traps but the opposition have not had to work too hard to design and set the traps. It's October and we are miles away from the promise and enthusiasm of the summer. Yes we bought well but not enough, we are already in the middle of an injury crisis and with internationals to come you can certainly add to that list. But most of all we are not improving on the pitch. Two league wins and a qualifier in Ch League win in ten competitive games. The same failings , the same lack of conviction and the same manager. yes it's his fault.
Galatasary tonight may be enough (if we win) to satisfy those who still believe and believe in the manager and no doubt they will take it as proof of his worthiness. But after that is Chelsea and we are , in my opinion, further behind them than we were for the 0-6 and that is with our new signings. This forum may go into meltdown Sunday evening.
Tedious 1-0 or 2-1 tonight.

the worrying thing is that even though I expect us to lose by 3 or 4 on Sunday I think that expectation levels have been lowered to such an extent that defeat at the Bridge is now an accepted part of the season. If a 6-0 defeat by them couldnt see off Wenger last season then another defeat by them won't hurt him this season either.

[QuartzGooner]

It's October and we are miles away from the promise and enthusiasm of the summer.

Speak for yourself

When the transfer window closed and we had once again left ourselves short of quality players in central defence and defensive midfield I thought that the most we can aim for is 3rd place and a domestic cup.

[Bradywasking]

It's October and we are miles away from the promise and enthusiasm of the summer.

Speak for yourself

When the transfer window closed and we had once again left ourselves short of quality players in central defence and defensive midfield I thought that the most we can aim for is 3rd place and a domestic cup.

The promise and enthusiasm came with Sanchez , Debuchy and Chambers etc. the reality was clear to us all when the window shut.

[QuartzGooner]

It's October and we are miles away from the promise and enthusiasm of the summer.

Speak for yourself

When the transfer window closed and we had once again left ourselves short of quality players in central defence and defensive midfield I thought that the most we can aim for is 3rd place and a domestic cup.

The promise and enthusiasm came with Sanchez , Debuchy and Chambers etc. the reality was clear to us all when the window shut.

It was another half way transfer window...promise of those early signings as you said but then the horrible realisation that there was nothing else to come except the injury prompted signing of Welback.