39th Game

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You see two NFL teams playing at Wembley and you die a little inside. Corporate sell outs the lot of em, I'd hate to see football sell the last 1% of it's soul that hasn't already been shat on by big business.

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dPmunky wrote:my opinion on the 39th game is the same as my opinion on wenger

100% against!

also 100% against any of the other 38 games being played out of country.


This is LITERALLY WHY WE HAVE TELEVISION and pay out of our asses for "premium" sports packages :banghead:
Fantastic misuse of the word "literally"! :barscarf:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
dPmunky wrote:my opinion on the 39th game is the same as my opinion on wenger

100% against!

also 100% against any of the other 38 games being played out of country.


This is LITERALLY WHY WE HAVE TELEVISION and pay out of our asses for "premium" sports packages :banghead:
Fantastic misuse of the word "literally"! :barscarf:

:lol: :wink:
I literally DONT care! 8)

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rodders999 wrote:You see two NFL teams playing at Wembley and you die a little inside. Corporate sell outs the lot of em, I'd hate to see football sell the last 1% of it's soul that hasn't already been shat on by big business.

Why ?? Is it any different to have pop/rock concerts there ? We had the same situation over here where the people who ran the gaelic games association, decided that it was ok to have concerts and college American football there, but unacceptable to have soccer (as its known over here) or rugby games in it :roll: When seriously public and political pressure was brought upon them when Aviva stadium was being renovated, they decided to allow football and rugby games into croke park for a short period of time only and to this day they refuse to allow small clubs at grassroots level the power to decide if football games can be played in their local grounds :roll: :evil:
Anyway the point I was making is that when you open your stadium in search of a financial windfall then it doesn't really matter who or what is bringing that windfall

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augie wrote:
rodders999 wrote:You see two NFL teams playing at Wembley and you die a little inside. Corporate sell outs the lot of em, I'd hate to see football sell the last 1% of it's soul that hasn't already been shat on by big business.

Why ?? Is it any different to have pop/rock concerts there ? We had the same situation over here where the people who ran the gaelic games association, decided that it was ok to have concerts and college American football there, but unacceptable to have soccer (as its known over here) or rugby games in it :roll: When seriously public and political pressure was brought upon them when Aviva stadium was being renovated, they decided to allow football and rugby games into croke park for a short period of time only and to this day they refuse to allow small clubs at grassroots level the power to decide if football games can be played in their local grounds :roll: :evil:
Anyway the point I was making is that when you open your stadium in search of a financial windfall then it doesn't really matter who or what is bringing that windfall
I just don't see why the Dallas Cowboys should be playing the Denver Broncos in London. The concept of that is completely alien to my tiny little mind, call me old fashioned or stuck in my ways or whatever. Also, you can't really make the comparision between a sports club and a music act, otherwise you'd have the beatles still jamming away in the cavern club to 50 people. :wink:

If there was ever a league game between Arsenal and another club that was played in Singapore (or where ever) then that's me done, they're welcome to it.

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This bollocks needs to be stopped early, or else give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

You can imagine, the first year or so it would be Arsenal vs West Brom, Monday Night Soccer action live from Soldier Field, Chicago.

But within a year or two it would be Arsenal vs Liverpool or Arsenal vs Manchester United played out there. Great if you're a hardcore fan living over in the States, but entirely unfair to "internationalise" the league to that degree. I think the buck (arf) should stop with pre-season tours where the fans there get to see The Arsenal in their own backyard.

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I enjoy watching NFL on TV, part of the enjoyment is getting a taste of American culture, the American fans, and largely American sportsmen and commentators. A taste of America and I'm sure I'd love to watch an NFL game in the flesh in America. However the thought of watching it at Wembley or anywhere else than America leaves me cold and simply not interested.

A strong part if English football's branding is it's English! Played in England!

Part of me has a morbid desire to see Man Utd v Man City in a Beijing stadium full of Chinese "fans" all clad in shiny new replica shirts, proudly holding aloft their half-and-half scarves whilst they spend the games taking pictures on their iPads.

Next week the same fans change into their Chelsea and Liverpool shirts for that weeks fixture.

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rodders999 wrote:
augie wrote:
rodders999 wrote:You see two NFL teams playing at Wembley and you die a little inside. Corporate sell outs the lot of em, I'd hate to see football sell the last 1% of it's soul that hasn't already been shat on by big business.

Why ?? Is it any different to have pop/rock concerts there ? We had the same situation over here where the people who ran the gaelic games association, decided that it was ok to have concerts and college American football there, but unacceptable to have soccer (as its known over here) or rugby games in it :roll: When seriously public and political pressure was brought upon them when Aviva stadium was being renovated, they decided to allow football and rugby games into croke park for a short period of time only and to this day they refuse to allow small clubs at grassroots level the power to decide if football games can be played in their local grounds :roll: :evil:
Anyway the point I was making is that when you open your stadium in search of a financial windfall then it doesn't really matter who or what is bringing that windfall
I just don't see why the Dallas Cowboys should be playing the Denver Broncos in London. The concept of that is completely alien to my tiny little mind, call me old fashioned or stuck in my ways or whatever. Also, you can't really make the comparision between a sports club and a music act, otherwise you'd have the beatles still jamming away in the cavern club to 50 people. :wink:

If there was ever a league game between Arsenal and another club that was played in Singapore (or where ever) then that's me done, they're welcome to it.

The cowboys are actually playing the jags (owned by Fulham's owner) so get that right for starters :wink: :lol:

Re your second point, wouldn't Wembley be traditionally viewed more as a sporting venue than a music venue ? If so, shouldn't it make more sense to hold other sporting events there, than it would to have the spice girls or some similarly shite band there ?

I suppose we have different viewpoints mainly because I am viewing it through a sporting fans eyes and I don't view Wembley with the same reverence as English football supporters do (highbury is home and nowhere else counts to me). I am a big NFL fan and am totally delighted at the fact that they are playing real season games over in Wembley and am delighted at how they continue to sell out season after season (this season they are playing 3 games there and that is huge). I attended the first regular season game there a few years ago and I hoped to go back this season but finances and other commitments put an end to that, but the intention is to go back again so I hope that they continue to play games in Wembley for years to come (sorry if that pisses you off :lol: )

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dPmunky wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
dPmunky wrote:my opinion on the 39th game is the same as my opinion on wenger

100% against!

also 100% against any of the other 38 games being played out of country.


This is LITERALLY WHY WE HAVE TELEVISION and pay out of our asses for "premium" sports packages :banghead:
Fantastic misuse of the word "literally"! :barscarf:

:lol: :wink:
I literally DONT care! 8)
:lol:

That is literally a fucking excellent reply! Literally! :barscarf: :wink:

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Terrible idea, English premier League should be played in England. Change for the sake of money ..keep it.
One fixture I would love to see is a competitive game between Man Yoo or Liverpool V Celtic in Dublin. Imagine the confusion among the loyal fans of the three clubs, most of them "support" two out of that three !!!!

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Bradywasking wrote:Terrible idea, English premier League should be played in England. Change for the sake of money ..keep it.
One fixture I would love to see is a competitive game between Man Yoo or Liverpool V Celtic in Dublin. Imagine the confusion among the loyal fans of the three clubs, most of them "support" two out of that three !!!!
:coffeespit:

It would be hilarious. You'd have "lifelong" fans of 2 of the 3 absolutely fucked in the head! Which to choose?! Which to choose?! Pretend hardman sectarian hatred or office mouthpiece glory hunting? :lol:

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augie wrote:
rodders999 wrote:
augie wrote:
rodders999 wrote:You see two NFL teams playing at Wembley and you die a little inside. Corporate sell outs the lot of em, I'd hate to see football sell the last 1% of it's soul that hasn't already been shat on by big business.

Why ?? Is it any different to have pop/rock concerts there ? We had the same situation over here where the people who ran the gaelic games association, decided that it was ok to have concerts and college American football there, but unacceptable to have soccer (as its known over here) or rugby games in it :roll: When seriously public and political pressure was brought upon them when Aviva stadium was being renovated, they decided to allow football and rugby games into croke park for a short period of time only and to this day they refuse to allow small clubs at grassroots level the power to decide if football games can be played in their local grounds :roll: :evil:
Anyway the point I was making is that when you open your stadium in search of a financial windfall then it doesn't really matter who or what is bringing that windfall
I just don't see why the Dallas Cowboys should be playing the Denver Broncos in London. The concept of that is completely alien to my tiny little mind, call me old fashioned or stuck in my ways or whatever. Also, you can't really make the comparision between a sports club and a music act, otherwise you'd have the beatles still jamming away in the cavern club to 50 people. :wink:

If there was ever a league game between Arsenal and another club that was played in Singapore (or where ever) then that's me done, they're welcome to it.

The cowboys are actually playing the jags (owned by Fulham's owner) so get that right for starters :wink: :lol:

Re your second point, wouldn't Wembley be traditionally viewed more as a sporting venue than a music venue ? If so, shouldn't it make more sense to hold other sporting events there, than it would to have the spice girls or some similarly sh1te band there ?

I suppose we have different viewpoints mainly because I am viewing it through a sporting fans eyes and I don't view Wembley with the same reverence as English football supporters do (highbury is home and nowhere else counts to me). I am a big NFL fan and am totally delighted at the fact that they are playing real season games over in Wembley and am delighted at how they continue to sell out season after season (this season they are playing 3 games there and that is huge). I attended the first regular season game there a few years ago and I hoped to go back this season but finances and other commitments put an end to that, but the intention is to go back again so I hope that they continue to play games in Wembley for years to come (sorry if that p1sses you off :lol: )
You could never p1ss me off Augster, I’m way too afraid of you for that :wink:

I’ve no problem with Wembely hosting other sports, the Olympics, boxing, rugby world cup or whatever’s your fancy, but what I don’t want to see there is a Seria A game between Juventus and Napoli. That should be played in Italy full stop. Same applies for NFL matches, premier league games etc. etc. etc. The people running these sports can spew all the BS they like about bringing the game around the world so other fans can get the chance to savour it but the real reason behind moving games abroad is GREED.

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rodders999 wrote:
augie wrote:
rodders999 wrote:
augie wrote:
rodders999 wrote:You see two NFL teams playing at Wembley and you die a little inside. Corporate sell outs the lot of em, I'd hate to see football sell the last 1% of it's soul that hasn't already been shat on by big business.

Why ?? Is it any different to have pop/rock concerts there ? We had the same situation over here where the people who ran the gaelic games association, decided that it was ok to have concerts and college American football there, but unacceptable to have soccer (as its known over here) or rugby games in it :roll: When seriously public and political pressure was brought upon them when Aviva stadium was being renovated, they decided to allow football and rugby games into croke park for a short period of time only and to this day they refuse to allow small clubs at grassroots level the power to decide if football games can be played in their local grounds :roll: :evil:
Anyway the point I was making is that when you open your stadium in search of a financial windfall then it doesn't really matter who or what is bringing that windfall
I just don't see why the Dallas Cowboys should be playing the Denver Broncos in London. The concept of that is completely alien to my tiny little mind, call me old fashioned or stuck in my ways or whatever. Also, you can't really make the comparision between a sports club and a music act, otherwise you'd have the beatles still jamming away in the cavern club to 50 people. :wink:

If there was ever a league game between Arsenal and another club that was played in Singapore (or where ever) then that's me done, they're welcome to it.

The cowboys are actually playing the jags (owned by Fulham's owner) so get that right for starters :wink: :lol:

Re your second point, wouldn't Wembley be traditionally viewed more as a sporting venue than a music venue ? If so, shouldn't it make more sense to hold other sporting events there, than it would to have the spice girls or some similarly sh1te band there ?

I suppose we have different viewpoints mainly because I am viewing it through a sporting fans eyes and I don't view Wembley with the same reverence as English football supporters do (highbury is home and nowhere else counts to me). I am a big NFL fan and am totally delighted at the fact that they are playing real season games over in Wembley and am delighted at how they continue to sell out season after season (this season they are playing 3 games there and that is huge). I attended the first regular season game there a few years ago and I hoped to go back this season but finances and other commitments put an end to that, but the intention is to go back again so I hope that they continue to play games in Wembley for years to come (sorry if that p1sses you off :lol: )
You could never p1ss me off Augster, I’m way too afraid of you for that :wink:

I’ve no problem with Wembely hosting other sports, the Olympics, boxing, rugby world cup or whatever’s your fancy, but what I don’t want to see there is a Seria A game between Juventus and Napoli. That should be played in Italy full stop. Same applies for NFL matches, premier league games etc. etc. etc. The people running these sports can spew all the BS they like about bringing the game around the world so other fans can get the chance to savour it but the real reason behind moving games abroad is GREED.


But, IF, that pipedream of an nfl franchise in London ever becomes reality, will that change your perception ? Would a London nfl team be any different that two european teams playing a champions league final in wembley ?

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My biggest fear is a NFL franchise in London would involve our Stan and he has his "own " stadium in the City.

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Bradywasking wrote:My biggest fear is a NFL franchise in London would involve our Stan and he has his "own " stadium in the City.


Well he has a star quarterback with the rams who is always injured, so it is like we are already connected as clubs 8)

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