THE WENGER THREAD

[in my heart]

Previous posts are correct. Player power not fans ( at the bowl the majority back him).
In the past players couldn't see wenger position changing so opted for a move. Before you critisize, Nasri, RVP went because of the lack of ambition - just look at our wage bill, we could compete with city and Utd respectively.
I'm hoping, no praying that this group see am end for wenger and challenge him.
Otherwise he will do what he did at Monaco... Left them high and dry!

[northbank123]

How many people think that we gone backwards from last season? I am starting to think that we may have done. We just seem to be drifting and going through the motions

Can't understand why we have particularly gone backwards this year having added a genuinely class player in Sanchez and an improvement in Welbeck but we have. We have zero confidence and Galatasaray spreading their arsecheeks aside we have played about 35 minutes of football in 11 games. It's crap.

The board will never push him out and he will not come to the conclusion that he's not the best person for the job or is not succeeding. If he keeps getting slated by the press and the fans jump on the bandwagon then he will absolutely hate it and that is the only thing that could persuade him to give it up imo. But I still can't see him resigning before the end of his deal, certainly not unless we have two pretty dreadful seasons, and the reality is we will still finish 4th this season. There are two good sides in this league.

[StanKroenke'sWig]

has he gone yet?

[Humoresque]

Be fair to Wenger, he needs more time.

yeah, he just instituted the "youth policy"

[VoiceOfReason]

How many people think that we gone backwards from last season?

Considering this is Wenger's second worst start to a season ever (the worst being 2011/12), I can't imagine how anyone could think that we haven't gone backwards.

I did also have to laugh at the post further up this thread where somebody said they felt we were out of the title race already. C'mon, seriously... you can't honestly tell me you thought this utter pile of shit was a genuine contender against Chelsea and Man City?

[BFG4]

Its his lack of class that gets to me. He knows that he is a shit manager, and is stealing a living, but happily signed a new contract. He also has the cheek to lose it with anyone that dares question him. I hope the media keep slating him, as it will show him up for the has been, he clearly is as a manager. Also, the only way that we will see more fans turn on him will be if ex players like Parlour or Winterburn actually criticise him, as they have always defended him. I wonder if he was as shit of a manager then, as he is now, would they have been ok with it.

[flash gunner]

I said a while ago on here this was going to be Wengers hardest season for a while and maybe his last. After the cup win last season and spending bigger than normal amounts of money the pressure was on to improve and we are failing so far.

I think this will be his last

[Brady's left peg]

We are currently in 7th place 11 points below top and 7 above bottom, next up away to the mackems a game we could easily drop points in. Followed by Burnley at home which we will surely win, but we then have a tricky visit to Swansea... and that will not be an easy game. 3 home games follow Manure, West brom and Soton, if we manage 4-6pts from those 3 would be good. Away to Stoke then Barcodes at home... should get at least 3pts from those 2 games. Followed by the Scouse away... fuck all. Then QPR home and the spammers away... should be 6pts.
That should give us around 29pts by the end of the year... Compared to 41 last season, 33 the season before and 36pts the season before that...
So how anybody can say we have improved is beyond me.
We have spent money, we have apparently money left to spend, we have signed some top quality players, we have new commercial revenue streams, we have more TV money, we also fleeced our own supporters for another 3% on ticket prices.
The only problem is... we still have a tactically inept, stubborn, egotistical manager who proved once again yesterday that his best days are so far behind him he can no longer see them in his rear view mirror (He seems to like car terminology). The interview he gave to Jacqui Oatley was nothing short of embarressing, once again blaming everything and everyone for HIS teams shortcomings. The problems we have in defence have been created by him, he himself said that if TV5 was sold he would be replaced... but he wasn't. Once Vermaelen had left the club he sold our last back-up CB with first team experience to Norwich (Miguel). Our defensive crisis whilst being a bit unlucky with the injury to Debuchy was caused by Wengers inability to recruit players before selling them. We were short last year and got away with it, This time round the bufoon has left us alarmingly short at the back but had the temerity to blame the players for switching off for the second goal yesterday... for fuck sake Wenger you have been switched off for the last fucking decade!!
If he could not motivate his players enough to roll over a team managed by Mrs fucking Doubtfire he must of forgotten everything he learnt in the previous 29 years 11 months and 30 days he has been in football. It wouldn't be so bad if Wenger actually apologised for some of these mediocre performances, at the end of the day he is the manager and the buck stops with him. But all he does is come out with the same old bullshit... We had 80% possession, we were slightly lacking in the final third, we lacked quality with the final ball, the opposition put all 10 men behind the ball and my favourite " we played a little bit with handbrake on". Well shove your fucking handbrake up your fucking jacksie and get your bunch of overpayed, pampered and lightweight pussies to man up and start putting in a bit of effort (this does not apply to all of them). Yes we may of played well for about twenty minutes yesterday, but what about the other seventy five?
Make no mistake we are going backwards and unless Wenger swallows his pride and goes back to the system which worked well last season, coupled with bringing in the necessary players in January this could be one of his worst if not the worst season of his tenure.
I hope for the sake of the fans and the club, we turn it around but as far as Wenger is concerned... Thanks for the great memories Arsene but it is now time you handed over the reins of this great club to someone younger and hungrier.

[g88ner]

I said a while ago on here this was going to be Wengers hardest season for a while and maybe his last. After the cup win last season and spending bigger than normal amounts of money the pressure was on to improve and we are failing so far.

I think this will be his last

Can't see it myself mate. Hope you're right Flash, but knowing what we do about the man (stubborn, arrogant, bonkers ( ) ) I can't see why he would walk away.

I just don't think he's got it in him to admit he's past it and walk away early/mid-contract. All the evidence he and the board needed has been there for years, but it didn't stop him signing a new 3 year contract over the summer, so can't see anything but another 2.5 years of this dross

And if you think Kroenke or the board have it in them to sack him, then read the quotes from the AGM. It makes for depressing reading - especially the shite Mr Chips comes out with about Wenger - "If he has a plan we back it, if he doesn't have a plan we keep quiet."

[QuartzGooner]

I cannot see Wenger leaving mid-contract unless there is a scandal or we are relegated.

Kroenke would likely not want to pay off his contract whilst simultaneously paying a new manager.

[SteveO 35]

I still think we'll finish 4th but much in the way we did the season we signed Arshavin

The wig wearing cancerous *word censored* and his slimy sidekick wouldn't be able to stand the 'brand damage' that would be suffered without the all consuming Champions League.......so it'll be like 'the Arshavin season' where we make a rare exception in January and mysteriously manage to sign a key player who for every other January has not been available because 'nobody wants to sell in January'

After we crawl back from 9th, the Sky pundits will hail Wenger's greatest ever achievement and we'll be knocking ourselves bandy as we beat West Brom in May

[Henry Norris 1913]

you know what steveo, I usually agree with you but I think this season is the last straw. all the chickens are coming home to roost and I'm 95% positive this will be the season we don't get the top four trophy. wenger missed his chance to leave on a high and it's all downhill from here

[g88ner]

you know what steveo, I usually agree with you but I think this season is the last straw. all the chickens are coming home to roost and I'm 95% positive this will be the season we don't get the top four trophy. wenger missed his chance to leave on a high and it's all downhill from here

I agree with that. Last summer offered him a rare opportunity to walk away with his head held high. Although we all know it's been a pathetic few years from him, the narrative would have just about held firm that he' selflessly guided us through the financial troubles of the last decade and out safely the other side where he bought our first mega-signing (Ozil for £42m) and won the FA Cup before handing over the reigns.

Instead, he foolishly signed a new contract and has condemned Arsenal to another 3 years of purgatory and gets a front row seat as Mourinho owns him for the next 3 years.

As SteveO once said.. the guy is a self harmer. It is however scandalous that he's allowed to take us all down with him.

fuck me... we've still got nearly 3 more years (and possibly more) of this shit yet to come

[northbank123]

I think the reason the tide seems to be showing genuine sides of turning is because so many people across the Wenger spectrum invested heavily in the idea that once we got the trophy monkey off our back with the sorts of commercial income we are now generating it would be a platform.

The reality is somehow despite the FA Cup win and signing a fucking class player in Alexis Sanchez, we have somehow gone backwards. The revered financial shackles are off, the trophy jinx is gone - there aren't any excuses any more and that's why people are disillusioned now more than ever.

[northbank123]

you know what steveo, I usually agree with you but I think this season is the last straw. all the chickens are coming home to roost and I'm 95% positive this will be the season we don't get the top four trophy. wenger missed his chance to leave on a high and it's all downhill from here

I agree with that. Last summer offered him a rare opportunity to walk away with his head held high. Although we all know it's been a pathetic few years from him, the narrative would have just about held firm that he' selflessly guided us through the financial troubles of the last decade and out safely the other side where he bought our first mega-signing (Ozil for £42m) and won the FA Cup before handing over the reigns.

Instead, he foolishly signed a new contract and has condemned Arsenal to another 3 years of purgatory and gets a front row seat as Mourinho owns him for the next 3 years.

As SteveO once said.. the guy is a self harmer. It is however scandalous that he's allowed to take us all down with him.

fuck me... we've still got nearly 3 more years (and possibly more) of this shit yet to come

Long time little posting mate. Seems like you've lost the last of your patience with him...