THE WENGER THREAD

[Top Londoner]

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WENGER OUT

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER.....THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER



Another glorious 2nd place group stage finish almost secured. Nothing to fear looking at the shit that Bayern and Real served up this week. Monreal will put Robben and Ronaldo in their place

[foxinthebox2001]

in tonights Standard :

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 14029.html

John Cross - describing us as "hopeless" and i give him some credit for writing this :

But that result is fooling no-one, not least the Wenger Out brigade who appear to be back and in big numbers. I do actually think the result - no matter how lucky - is massive for the players and their confidence but many of the fans are not buying it.

Out in Brussels on Tuesday night, you got a sense of the unrest among the fans. There’s a section who not happy at the moment at all. They want sustained success and a return to the good old days under Wenger which doesn't look likely on current form.

In fairness and to their great credit, during the game they supported the team and Arsenal’s away fans are superb - always loud and they back the players.

it kind of destroys the AKB argument that you can't support the Team unless you support Wenger. not true.

the media are turning very slowly.

There were 2 telling reactions at the final whistle in Brussels, Clueless looking like a homeless man who had just found a £1m winning lottery ticket, and Alexis not really celebrating, but shaking his head wondering how on earth this team come out with all 3 points.

[OneBardGooner]

ONE JACQUI OATLEY.....THERE'S ONLY ONE JACQUI OATLEY WENGER



Another glorious 2nd place group stage finish almost secured. Nothing to fear looking at the shit that Bayern and Real served up this week. Monreal will put Robben and Ronaldo in their place

Feck orf wenker we want jacqui - She knows more about tactics than you Ever will!

[Ikechukwu1]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/per-m ... t-by-that/

Yeah. Amazing "spiwit" in the camp eh?
It's the second time in 6 months Per has questioned Lord A-joke's training routines.
I especially liked Lord Clueless response, which was to issue a threat to Per for daring to out his incompetence in public.
I've never once heard of any of Jose, Ancelotti or Pep's senior players openly question their training and tactics. Doubt I ever will.
Wenger has no clue what he's doing, he's basically just collecting money and rinsing his Freedom Pass...

[Ikechukwu1]

Ooops jumped the gun. Wenger's managerial incompetence: the gift that keeps on giving.
And here's his most senior defender and a German WC winner slating his tactics

http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9 ... nge-Please...

[OneBardGooner]

"Arsenal average more possession in the Premier League than any of their rivals but have claimed only 11 points from eight games this season."Everyone knows that it is a difficult start to the season for us, and the confidence is not as we want it," said Mertesacker. "The character is good and the mentality is good. But football-wise we lack a few things.

"The passing game is not as efficient as last year. We are not at our best, we have to admit that. We have to be honest to ourselves and train harder.

"I think we have to do better with our own possession - to put more pressure on them [the opposition], not to lose so many balls in the middle of the park, and to play more in wide areas. I think it is better to expose them there, instead of playing one-twos through the middle.

"It doesn’t work as much as last season, so we have to work on that."

Mertesacker was also honest about his own failings, admitting: "For me personally, it is difficult at the moment.

"It was a really long season last year, and to come back from the World Cup and get the motivation back. I am nearly back but you can feel there is something missing at the moment.

"The belief and the mentality is there, with these games the motivation will come back quicker."

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BFG may not be playing as well as he has in the past - BUT he IS Honest...which is more than can be said for wenker....


By inference from what he has said it is easy to see what he is saying....the tippy tappy does NOT Work and neither does having lightweight players in mid-field.


He has always lacked pace - but by the end of this season - like Arteta is now - He will be ready for another club...No doubt Wenker will faiI to do the necessary - and show him the door and get in a younger replacement.

Don't get me wrong I love BFG and his attitude etc - like when he told ozilbollox off for running to the dressing room instead of paying due homage to the supporters... etc


But I can only see him getting even slower from now on. Sadly time for him to move on at the close of this season.

[clockender1]

fairplay to Per.

he is slow, but thats not nessarily a problem if your CB's work as a unit, are protected by the two DM's and have good positional sense and anticipation.

the problem with the team is wenger, not the individual players.

we should sack Wenger now and get a coach in to coach the players, thats what we need.

and Wengers response says it all :

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"I don't know what he meant by that," Wenger said. "We have to be careful with statements after the game. We train very hard. The spirit is right and the attitude is there and performance is linked with confidence.

we train very hard - no thats not the problem is it Arsene PLC ? - its not training smart enough - sprints and tika takka are not enough

[defleppardisking]

The french fucker is living in cloud cuckoo land. He needs to see a shrink asap.

[foxinthebox2001]

Exactly as I posted earlier this week on the Hull thread. The Wenger Out movement can moan as much as they want, it alone wont shift him, but when the players begin to publicy question him and his tactics he has to answer to it.
For the 850 pages in ths thread, it takes just a few sentences from Per to get him flapping.
He is no longer surrounded by players who treat him like a god, players such as Alexis, Ozil, Per and Podolski have been around the block, played under top coaches in europe, and don't feel they owe Wenger a living. If something needs to be said, they will say it. We need more of it.

[clockender1]

He is no longer surrounded by players who treat him like a god, players such as Alexis, Ozil, Per and Podolski have been around the block, played under top coaches in europe, and don't feel they owe Wenger a living. If something needs to be said, they will say it. We need more of it.

we do - and I think not buying seasoned players in the past has allowed Wonga to indulge his fantasies without the fear of being questioned by older pros- thats why he prefers to buy kids. no kid is going to take on Arsene PLC, but Pod ? - a WC winners medal plus his finishing ability, means he could go to PSG, Monaco, Dortmund, Schalke, Athletico and be a starter on a pretty nice wage. He has no reason to fear Wonga.

My hunch is that Per will be disciplined internally but what can wonga do ? - Per is the only fit CB, wonga can hardly drop him...but if word gets out that Per has been discplined or silenced for it, that will indicate wider dissent in the dressing room.

dissent in the papers, dissent in the dressing room its all good - we just need more from the terraces to get Wonga sacked as he should be.

[augie]

He is no longer surrounded by players who treat him like a god, players such as Alexis, Ozil, Per and Podolski have been around the block, played under top coaches in europe, and don't feel they owe Wenger a living. If something needs to be said, they will say it. We need more of it.

we do - and I think not buying seasoned players in the past has allowed Wonga to indulge his fantasies without the fear of being questioned by older pros- thats why he prefers to buy kids. no kid is going to take on Arsene PLC, but Pod ? - a WC winners medal plus his finishing ability, means he could go to PSG, Monaco, Dortmund, Schalke, Athletico and be a starter on a pretty nice wage. He has no reason to fear Wonga.

My hunch is that Per will be disciplined internally but what can wonga do ? - Per is the only fit CB, wonga can hardly drop him...but if word gets out that Per has been discplined or silenced for it, that will indicate wider dissent in the dressing room.

dissent in the papers, dissent in the dressing room its all good - we just need more from the terraces to get Wonga sacked as he should be.

He won't get disciplined for that - as much a power hungry dictator that le cock indeed is, even he wouldn't be able to discipline BFG for that interview. What is more likely to happen is wenker will have a quiet word and impress on him the need to be unified and the BFG will apologise for his choice of words

Sad but very true

[Theoperator]

He is no longer surrounded by players who treat him like a god, players such as Alexis, Ozil, Per and Podolski have been around the block, played under top coaches in europe, and don't feel they owe Wenger a living. If something needs to be said, they will say it. We need more of it.

we do - and I think not buying seasoned players in the past has allowed Wonga to indulge his fantasies without the fear of being questioned by older pros- thats why he prefers to buy kids. no kid is going to take on Arsene PLC, but Pod ? - a WC winners medal plus his finishing ability, means he could go to PSG, Monaco, Dortmund, Schalke, Athletico and be a starter on a pretty nice wage. He has no reason to fear Wonga.

My hunch is that Per will be disciplined internally but what can wonga do ? - Per is the only fit CB, wonga can hardly drop him...but if word gets out that Per has been discplined or silenced for it, that will indicate wider dissent in the dressing room.

dissent in the papers, dissent in the dressing room its all good - we just need more from the terraces to get Wonga sacked as he should be.

Thats a very good point, and I for one hadnt considered that, had always had him buying young/ crocks to claim the glory when they rise up to the challenge, and if they fail well it was just an experiment

As for BFG being disciplined for saying that I doubt it, it will all be passed off as a language/ translation problem next week.

Theres no doubt that the heat is on, but the crafty devils had worse and swing it round, all the AKBs resurface and the sh*t turns into good compost for the Wenger garden .

[Supagoon]

He is no longer surrounded by players who treat him like a god, players such as Alexis, Ozil, Per and Podolski have been around the block, played under top coaches in europe, and don't feel they owe Wenger a living. If something needs to be said, they will say it. We need more of it.

we do - and I think not buying seasoned players in the past has allowed Wonga to indulge his fantasies without the fear of being questioned by older pros- thats why he prefers to buy kids. no kid is going to take on Arsene PLC, but Pod ? - a WC winners medal plus his finishing ability, means he could go to PSG, Monaco, Dortmund, Schalke, Athletico and be a starter on a pretty nice wage. He has no reason to fear Wonga.

My hunch is that Per will be disciplined internally but what can wonga do ? - Per is the only fit CB, wonga can hardly drop him...but if word gets out that Per has been discplined or silenced for it, that will indicate wider dissent in the dressing room.

dissent in the papers, dissent in the dressing room its all good - we just need more from the terraces to get Wonga sacked as he should be.

you can't be serious. PSG, can buy any striker they want, Dortmund play with mobility, and even mandzukic is better than pod.

I do agree that now we get more experienced players including players like welbeck who have played in successful teams, Arsene has got as much leverage like he has with Ramsey, Gibbs and Jack. Remember when jack said "if Arsene goes, I go".

When arsene goes I imagine they'll be lots of dirty laundry to be aired.

[clockender1]

oh i don't know, most clubs have an internal discipline policy of not criticising the club or manager publicly. BFG did both which is quite right.

i wouldn't be surprised to see wonga leave it a couple of weeks then quietly change the vice captain to Jack or Ramsay. he wants a VC who will toe the line in interview, not point out his weaknesses.

at the very least i don't expect that wonga will make Per available for the post match interview on Saturday.