THE WENGER THREAD

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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Sam59
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Ramsey's defending himself against unfair criticism - says he's been playing when not 100% fit. So add him to Ozil, Koscielny...probably Arteta, who knows who else le Muppet plays when they're actually injured. Seems you have to be Diaby-ed (or Jacked) to be rested.
In the meantime how much more money does Arsene need? Working for a French TV channel again. :roll:

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Ikechukwu1 wrote:So Pogba is another to add to the list of virtual signings.
It's a veritable Who's Who of stardom:
Pogba
Ronaldo
Zlatan
Messi
Varane
Benzema
Mata
Modric

And to think, our Genius manager woulda played all of them out on the wing, before finishing in errr, 4th, and selling the lot to Citeh/Chelski!

ONE ARSENE WENGER


You left kalou out of that list.
THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER
:barscarf: :barscarf:

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His pogba comments are typical crap that doesn't make sense.

"We tried to get him but it was complicated. I was surprised to see manchester let him go."
"We did not have the right to contact him"

Well how did you nearly sign him then u prick.

As for diabies likely new deal

"If he comes back, I will keep him"

Sums him up

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Sanogo has got both goals for France U21 vs England U21. So he'll be on the bench at least for the Utd game and make it on ahead of Podolski again.

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Ikechukwu1 wrote:So Pogba is another to add to the list of virtual signings.
It's a veritable Who's Who of stardom:
Pogba
Ronaldo
Zlatan
Messi
Varane
Benzema
Mata
Modric

And to think, our Genius manager woulda played all of them out on the wing, before finishing in errr, 4th, and selling the lot to Citeh/Chelski!

ONE ARSENE WENGER
THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER
:barscarf: :barscarf:
Instead he bought Park,Sanogo,Giroud,Squillaci.....the man's a fucking footballing genius,who needs Messi when you can have the Postman? :rubchin:

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Sam59 wrote:Sanogo has got both goals for France U21 vs England U21. So he'll be on the bench at least for the Utd game and make it on ahead of Podolski again.
Were they poachers finishes from 37 inches out?

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He can't resist cheap and dithers far too long when there's any competition for a player.

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robbo10 wrote:
Sam59 wrote:Sanogo has got both goals for France U21 vs England U21. So he'll be on the bench at least for the Utd game and make it on ahead of Podolski again.
Were they poachers finishes from 37 inches out?
Didn't see the first. Second was a poacher's finish but first time, well taken. But it's U21. Sanogo should be on loan somewhere where he plays regularly.

Just seen the first - shinned it in the corner from a foot out :lol:

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Sam59 wrote:Ramsey's defending himself against unfair criticism - says he's been playing when not 100% fit. So add him to Ozil, Koscielny...probably Arteta, who knows who else le Muppet plays when they're actually injured. Seems you have to be Diaby-ed (or Jacked) to be rested.
In the meantime how much more money does Arsene need? Working for a French TV channel again. :roll:
Seems crazy, but true- Whyever not rest Rambo and play Wilshere? I noticed that last season, rambo started to falter a few weeks before his injury- looks like the same this season though he never has really gotten into his stride after the Charity Shield match :|

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Theoperator wrote:
Sam59 wrote:Ramsey's defending himself against unfair criticism - says he's been playing when not 100% fit. So add him to Ozil, Koscielny...probably Arteta, who knows who else le Muppet plays when they're actually injured. Seems you have to be Diaby-ed (or Jacked) to be rested.
In the meantime how much more money does Arsene need? Working for a French TV channel again. :roll:
Seems crazy, but true- Whyever not rest Rambo and play Wilshere? I noticed that last season, rambo started to falter a few weeks before his injury- looks like the same this season though he never has really gotten into his stride after the Charity Shield match :|
Because Wilshere looks like he's been playing through injury for 2 years now! Likewise Arteta, I don't believe either of those have really been fully fit for a long time.

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Crazy to play a half fit Ramsey.

Why not use Rosicky and let Ramsey get back to full fitness?

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It's all about favourites and Rosicky is not one of them. Anyway he played for the Czechs I believe this week so will probably be a little short for this one. He will sit it out on the bench sadly.

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Paul Hayward wrote this in The Daily Telegraph, they might not employ much in the way of sub-editors these days but this article will resonate, so I will paste it in full.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... again.html

"The two Mers are unlikely allies but Per Mertesacker and Paul Merson are both convinced Arsenal need to get “serious” if they are to escape death by frivolity.

Should Arsène Wenger’s reign as Arsenal manager end badly, the obituarists will make great play of the day Calum Chambers was abandoned to his fate at Swansea. Chambers, still only 19, would have found it less excruciating defending himself against a chainsaw than Jefferson Montero, the turf-torching Swansea left winger who went round, past and pretty much straight through him as the Gunners surrendered a lead for the second time in a week.

This brutal lacerating of a promising young English defender had the look and feel of a seminal moment in the struggle between Wenger and his critics, who include a growing band of ex‑players who study with dismay the essential softness of a side they once packed with grit and granite.

Merson, the house larrikin and throwback to the maverick 1970s in Wenger’s early squads, was bound to encounter credibility problems when calling Arsenal’s defensive tactics “clueless”. In press conferences, Wenger found it easy enough to cuff away Mers’s comments with the implied suggestion that here was a poacher criticising the security arrangements at a country estate.

Mertesacker’s words are less easy to dismiss. He is a World Cup-winning German international of great experience and sound thought, even if his positioning for Swansea’s winning goal was questionable.

“The game was completely in our hands, especially in the second half when we scored,” Mertesacker said, through his club’s own channels. “Then we have to play serious football and not lose the ball, but they got us on the break, and that’s completely unbelievable in our situation.”

While Wenger and Merson feed the news snackers (“clueless”, “childish”) Mertesacker has pointed to the truth that dare not speak its name. The narrowing of Arsenal’s ambitions to a top-four finish, financial stability and sweet midfield passing has worked as a Petri dish for a particular mindset across large parts of the side.

The Chambers episode was revelatory. As Montero flashed this way and that, fizzing past the young Arsenal full-back and whipping in crosses, three remedies were possible: 1, Move Chambers to centre-back and find a faster, fresher defender to stop the scourge: 2, Withdraw him altogether: 3, Instruct other Arsenal players in the vicinity to stop viewing the mismatch as a series of bloopers they were watching at home on flat screen TVs.

Number three is the most interesting. Consigning Wenger to the rubbish dump of once-great managers is certainly the temptation for many Arsenal fans, but the mind keeps coming back to the rest of the team that played in South Wales. It asks: What were they doing while a junior team-mate suffered so? Why did one young England international, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, not consider it his urgent duty to rescue another?

Mertesacker identified two problems. First, the midfielders giving the ball away while bounding puppy-like in search of more goals, followed by a failure to react, collectively. A team built to be an orchestra looks too often like a collection of lone fiddlers. If we could tap into the secret thoughts of the average Arsenal player, the bubble might read: “It’s not my problem, not my responsibility. I have been granted a license to entertain.”

The talent Jack Wilshere describes as “putting your foot in” is shorthand for a much a broader attribute. It describes players who know when to play and went to shut games down, who despise losing and will never watch passively while problems multiply. They are the mean, grumpy driven core of most successful teams. They are hard to find but pretty much impossible to live without. In single human form they are Patrick Vieira.

So much of Arsenal’s arsenal is sound. In the summer Wenger acquired an excellent strike partnership in Danny Welbeck and Alexis Sánchez, who has scored six times in four games and is the determined hole-puncher they needed. Arsenal have returned to the ranks of heavy spenders and reside in a beautiful stadium: a reward for long-term thinking.

But while everyone hollers for this or that defender to join in January, the cultural problem will be harder to cure. To be 12 points off the top of the Premier League table after 11 games is not indicative of manpower shortages. It suggests the attitude the manpower is starting out with has been allowed to drift too far from the basic truths about winning in English football.

Why Wenger expects teams to stand back and admire his team’s nice moves is one of the bigger mysteries. They stopped doing so years ago. Intercept-and-counter-attack is now the preferred method for beating Arsenal. Wenger may be culpable, but his players are hiding from the dirty jobs."

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Well, that was a great article. Asks the right questions.

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the playing mantis wrote:His pogba comments are typical crap that doesn't make sense.

"We tried to get him but it was complicated. I was surprised to see manchester let him go."
"We did not have the right to contact him"

Well how did you nearly sign him then u prick.

As for diabies likely new deal

"If he comes back, I will keep him"

Sums him up

All sourced from evening standard
All that shit that comes out of his mouth makes me sick. It seems that as pressure is growing his stories gets even more stupid. Other managers has to be laughing their asses off when they read all this bullshit from the papers.

That Diaby comment is pure class. Sums him up pretty much as you said.

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