Jon toral

[slag]

On loan at Brentford who are on sky tonight.....reading good things about him.

[clockender1]

he's scored a couple of nice goals for us.

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/fo ... ar-8002560

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/11/ ... -in-champ/

http://www.westlondonsport.com/brentfor ... and-better

the Bees can go 3rd tonight which is pretty good for a newly promoted side. Toral looks a class above even at 19.

Mark Warburton spent some time at his own expense coaching at Barca (and AJax and Bayern) so i think he knew of Toral already - they also paid a whopping 1.3million quid for Jota from Celta Vigo this summer, to play on the other wing.

Warburton is one to watch imho - he combines European flair in the skill positions with british steel well i think.

[officepest]

The list of promising youngsters at Wenger's Arsenal that haven't made it is staggering; here's hoping we find a couple able to buck the trend.

[clockender1]

The list of promising youngsters at Wenger's Arsenal that haven't made it is staggering; here's hoping we find a couple able to buck the trend.

Vela is doing pretty well - 2 goals last week for Mexico against Holland but thats about it. fortunately, he hasn't had his hands on Toral for too long yet.

it still surprises me that these barcelona kids like Toral and Bellerin want to come, when we know that in case of injury wenger would rather play a squad player out of position rather than give youth a chance - or in the case of loss of form either.

Gnabry has shown reall quality already - as has Bellerin, but they won't even get on the bench most weeks - ludicrous innit ?

[officepest]

The list of promising youngsters at Wenger's Arsenal that haven't made it is staggering; here's hoping we find a couple able to buck the trend.

Vela is doing pretty well - 2 goals last week for Mexico against Holland but thats about it. fortunately, he hasn't had his hands on Toral for too long yet.

it still surprises me that these barcelona kids like Toral and Bellerin want to come, when we know that in case of injury wenger would rather play a squad player out of position rather than give youth a chance - or in the case of loss of form either.

Gnabry has shown reall quality already - as has Bellerin, but they won't even get on the bench most weeks - ludicrous innit ?

I suppose Wenger will cite Fabregas as the proof they'll get chances.

[clockender1]

he does obviously, and they all mention fabregas too - but that was 11 years ago.

imho these spanish kids would do better at Celta Vigo, Real Sociedad or Sevilla at 16. no way will wonga play Toral until he's 21 at least, bellerin has only got a chance cos of injuries. when kos comes back you won't see him on the bench again - like Campbell.

still 0-0 come on you Bees

[StuartL]

On loan at Brentford who are on sky tonight.....reading good things about him.

Hmmm wasn't that where Sczezcney made his reputation

[OneBardGooner]

The list of promising youngsters at Wenger's Arsenal that haven't made it is staggering; here's hoping we find a couple able to buck the trend.

Vela is doing pretty well - 2 goals last week for Mexico against Holland but thats about it. fortunately, he hasn't had his hands on Toral for too long yet.

it still surprises me that these barcelona kids like Toral and Bellerin want to come, when we know that in case of injury wenger would rather play a squad player out of position rather than give youth a chance - or in the case of loss of form either.

Gnabry has shown reall quality already - as has Bellerin, but they won't even get on the bench most weeks - ludicrous innit ?

I suppose Wenger will cite Fabregas as the proof they'll get chances.

If they do 'make it' into the first team as a regular -Le Knobohead will then sell them - with a buy back clause - which he will fail to act on.

[OneBardGooner]

On loan at Brentford who are on sky tonight.....reading good things about him.

Hmmm wasn't that where Sczezcney made his reputation

Tis indeed...mind you they have a manager (Mark Warburton) who knows something about these mysterious things called 'Tactics'...

[clockender1]

On loan at Brentford who are on sky tonight.....reading good things about him.

Hmmm wasn't that where Sczezcney made his reputation

and Paul Merson and Paul Davis. NIco Yennaris is also in the squad right now.

[clockender1]

Jon Toral scored a hat trick tonight for the mighty Bees

it was only against bottom place Blackpool...but still not bad for a winger

[IW8Goalmachine]

i haven't seen much of him, does he have what it takes to make it?

[slag]

Signs a new 12 month deal http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 09989.html

[LDB]

The list of promising youngsters at Wenger's Arsenal that haven't made it is staggering; here's hoping we find a couple able to buck the trend.

Surely no worse than any other club though?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... grade.html

[Nos89]

The list of promising youngsters at Wenger's Arsenal that haven't made it is staggering; here's hoping we find a couple able to buck the trend.

That's a bit unfair. Remember project youth which collapsed spectacularly at old Trafford. It's not that he hasn't tried to bring youngsters through, walcott, chamberlain, gibbs, wilshere, jenkinson, chambers, sczezney and there are a host of players no longer at the club but are have made a good career in football. Problem is the fans. No one on here rates any of the young players despite all 7 players i've mentioned have earnt international recognition. Walcott is our more experienced player appearance wise and he's only 25.
Remember all the criticism aimed at Walcott a few years ago, Raheem sterling is gonna go the same way so swapping Walcott for him is a ridiculous suggestion. I would love to see all 7 of those players make the first team regularly again.