Jack Wilshere

[northbank123]

Playing a bit better but spunked his golden chance when he got it and still extremely frustrating holding onto the ball for so long. And now he's injured. He'll probably be out for weeks and then struggle with niggly little injuries when he is supposedly fit again, he'll take a while to drag himself back to some kind of form and then he'll get injured again. Rinse and repeat.

This is going to be his whole fucking career, form aside he is just never going to stay fit. He is obviously prone to injuries, and this is exacerbated by his tendency to hold onto the ball and invite heavy tackles. Personally I hope we flog him to Liverpool for £25m+ this summer.

[clockender1]

This is going to be his whole fucking career, form aside he is just never going to stay fit. He is obviously prone to injuries, and this is exacerbated by his tendency to hold onto the ball and invite heavy tackles. Personally I hope we flog him to Liverpool for £25m+ this summer.

i hate to say it, but based on the performances and coaching for england, i think he would do a good job at the mickeys.

4 days after Gary Nevilles comments about "this is not 5 a side", he launched a beauty of a pass to Ox.

imho he is another talent being wasted by wonga.

he doesn't have the ability to wiggle through defenders nor take them on, nor is he a finisher - but he can play the lampard or gerrard role - coming from deep and arriving late in the box to blast it or place it, or lying deep taking one touch then spreading the play with 20/30 yard passes.

jack needs that role to succeed, whereas ramsay needs a role further forward - neither is played to their strengths - just like Arteta.

as noted before, we have 4 number 8's and 4 number 10's, but only one number 5 or 6.

[northbank123]

This is going to be his whole fucking career, form aside he is just never going to stay fit. He is obviously prone to injuries, and this is exacerbated by his tendency to hold onto the ball and invite heavy tackles. Personally I hope we flog him to Liverpool for £25m+ this summer.

i hate to say it, but based on the performances and coaching for england, i think he would do a good job at the mickeys.

4 days after Gary Nevilles comments about "this is not 5 a side", he launched a beauty of a pass to Ox.

imho he is another talent being wasted by wonga.

he doesn't have the ability to wiggle through defenders nor take them on, nor is he a finisher - but he can play the lampard or gerrard role - coming from deep and arriving late in the box to blast it or place it, or lying deep taking one touch then spreading the play with 20/30 yard passes.

jack needs that role to succeed, whereas ramsay needs a role further forward - neither is played to their strengths - just like Arteta.

as noted before, we have 4 number 8's and 4 number 10's, but only one number 5 or 6.

I disagree - arriving late in the box is exactly the role Ramsey prospered in last year, not dissimilar to the role Lampard used to play. Whereas Wilshere just doesn't have the discipline for that sort of game, he'll always end up chasing the ball round like a blue-arsed fly. Don't get me wrong, he has been poorly-utilised and would benefit from a defined role in the side but I just don't think he has the discipline to ever be a top player.

I also don't see him as a remotely decent finisher. And I don't see how him and Ramsey could fit into a team together really unless you are going to convert Wilshere to a DM.

[clockender1]

I also don't see him as a remotely decent finisher. And I don't see how him and Ramsey could fit into a team together really unless you are going to convert Wilshere to a DM.

they can't - same as lampard and gerrard together have been utter shite for England.

Jack can finish when he doesn't have time to think, but Ramsay is definitely the better finisher.

our midfield should be - Sanchez - true DM - Ramsay - Ox. rosicky can and should rotate with Sanchez.

[OneBardGooner]

We have yet to see the best of Wilshere, I think he has not been managed/coached properly - regardless of his preference for position on the pitch - It is down to Wenger - I can easily envisage 95% of the squad playing much, much better if they were managed by someone else - ie: someone who knows what they are doing - someone who will give them a bollocking if they need it - rather than the namby pamby softly softly approach, the problem is if Wenger hangs around much longer Wilshere will disappear into staleness and never achieve what a decent coach & manager can help him to achieve.

A team with a manager who knows tactics and how to adapt to the way the opposition are playing to counteract what they are doing and take advantage of their weaknesses...a manager who doesn't continually play players out of position to try and squeeze them into a system that is based more on pas and move pass and move rather than organised formation/s firstly then employing the natural skills and flair of the players - a manager who tells the team what they need to do = How they go about it and to Man Up.

Ozil a Class Player has turned to shyte
Pods a natural finisher left to rot on the bench - whilst playing a joke like Sanogo
Chambers - a young player with oodles of potential - slowly being stripped of his self-confidence and all the defensive skills he has thus far acquired - being played on the defensive flank instead of his natural position at CB - When we do NOT have a CB
Arshavin was a natural no 10 - and he was left to go stale and become disinterested on the flank
Gibbs too lightweight as a full back - great pace - great engine - but too one footed - make him train on using his right foot more - and teach him how and when to cross
Ramsey demonstrated last season he has the skills, the brain, the ability to score - instead he is left to his own immature devices to fuck up week after week
and goalies - jeezus - we have not had a competent, reliable keeper since the mad kraut
We have the opportunity to buy (re-sign) one of the finest mid-field playmakers around in fabregas and he passes up the opportunity..why? ego or stupidity or Both!?

The list is endless..............................

[mcdowell42]

I wouldn't worry about him being over rated,he won't be playing for us for another 6-8 wks according to Twitter.

[TeeCee]

we have not had a competent, reliable keeper since the mad kraut

Can't agree on that mate, Jens was definitely NOT reliable!! Cost us many points behaving like a headless chicken and was always liable to lamp someone who trod on his toes!!
We haven't had a great keeper since Spunky.

[goonersid]

we have not had a competent, reliable keeper since the mad kraut

Can't agree on that mate, Jens was definitely NOT reliable!! Cost us many points behaving like a headless chicken and was always liable to lamp someone who trod on his toes!!
We haven't had a great keeper since Spunky.

And he played on well after he should have been put out to graze. to the point where virtually anything that wasn't hit straight at him end up in the goal. In one of his later season he had the worst shots to saves ratio in the lge.

[DB10GOONER]

we have not had a competent, reliable keeper since the mad kraut

Can't agree on that mate, Jens was definitely NOT reliable!! Cost us many points behaving like a headless chicken and was always liable to lamp someone who trod on his toes!!
We haven't had a great keeper since Spunky.

Agreed 100%. Been saying it for years - Jens was the most over rated keeper ever. Yeah he was good, and sometimes absolutely brilliant, but his game was heavily flawed with stupidity, petulance, rashness and poor decision making.

Taking sid's point about Seamo, I'd agree he was past his best in his last season (or three!!) with us, but we have not had a keeper snce him that could play at such a high level so consistently for so long.

[armchair]

This is so true.
Never adequately replacing Seaman and letting him play on as no 1 for loooooong after he was done is when I first questioned Wenger and was just puzzled how he could ignore such an obviouss weakness in the squad for so long.
Right up to present day its the same.(Although I rate Shezza highly and firmly believe he COULD become a great for us. But not with Wenger in charge.

[OneBardGooner]

we have not had a competent, reliable keeper since the mad kraut

Can't agree on that mate, Jens was definitely NOT reliable!! Cost us many points behaving like a headless chicken and was always liable to lamp someone who trod on his toes!!
We haven't had a great keeper since Spunky.

I agree we have not had a "Great" Keeper since Seaman was in his prime - But I thought jens - although mad as a box of frogs and capable of starting a fight in an empty room - was the best we have had since Seaman - and was most of the time a 'decent' keeper, like all GK's he was prone to mistakes - But he was able to command his box - even though it meant starting a fight sometimes - and he had loads of experience.

I remember thinking that the position of GK was a flaw in Wenger's armoury (no pun intended) but it soon became evident that this was one of many 'gaps' in his ability to choose, buy and play the right player/s.

[mcdowell42]

word on the street wilshere out for 8 weeks min.

[DB10GOONER]

word on the street wilshere out for 8 weeks min.

The Wilshere Theorem;

W + OI = 8 WO + N x AMTI / RN = 18 MO

Where;

W = Wilshere
OI = Original Injury
WO = Weeks Out
N = Niggle
AMTI = Arsenal Medical Team Input
RN = Recurring Niggle
MO = Months Out



You don't even want to see the Rosicky Gambit or the Diaby Paradox!

[greengooner]

I don't care if he is out for the next eight months, he adds f**k all to an already shit team, an overrated chav with glass body syndrome, few assists and no goals all season, if he were French he would not get a mention in the papers, god help the England team if he is their great hope for the future.

[gra001]

Please don't give him a New contract, another player on high wages £150k a week and only playing a handfull of games!!!!not worth it, overated Smurf !!!!