Is Ferguson better than Wenger?

[Mike1]

Don't shoot the messenger! Received this from a mate of mine who dared me to post it and if we all remove our Arsenal coloured glasses, it could be an interesting debate.

Ten reasons why Ferguson is better than Wenger.
Rarely goes a season without a trophy
The ability to win back to back titles
His teams don't lose their bottle
He doesn't have an annual battle to retain his best players
He won't sell a player until and unless he wants to
He invariably wins the big games
His teams know how to defend and play good football at the same time
He is not afraid to spend big or buy established stars
He doesn't wait until the 70th minute to make a substitution
He buys British.

[Red Gunner]

I thought about that as well, after losing the title. Fergie has more league titles than Arsene so ultimately he is better. Of course, when Fergie walked into Man Utd, they were more established (ie finances, stadium) and all that, unlike Arsenal when Arsene walked in. But still, I can’t see a clear argument that will state that Arsene is better than Fergie

[Cornie]

I think Arsene is better at signing lesser known players and making them stars, other than this Fergie is I am afraid to say a quality manager.

[gus ceasar is a legend]

Don't shoot the messenger! Received this from a mate of mine who dared me to post it and if we all remove our Arsenal coloured glasses, it could be an interesting debate.

Ten reasons why Ferguson is better than Wenger.
Rarely goes a season without a trophy
The ability to win back to back titles
His teams don't lose their bottle
He doesn't have an annual battle to retain his best players
He won't sell a player until and unless he wants to
He invariably wins the big games
His teams know how to defend and play good football at the same time
He is not afraid to spend big or buy established stars
He doesn't wait until the 70th minute to make a substitution
He buys British.

Cannot argue with any of those points really!

[Red Gunner]

Don't shoot the messenger! Received this from a mate of mine who dared me to post it and if we all remove our Arsenal coloured glasses, it could be an interesting debate.

Ten reasons why Ferguson is better than Wenger.
Rarely goes a season without a trophy
The ability to win back to back titles
His teams don't lose their bottle
He doesn't have an annual battle to retain his best players
He won't sell a player until and unless he wants to
He invariably wins the big games
His teams know how to defend and play good football at the same time
He is not afraid to spend big or buy established stars
He doesn't wait until the 70th minute to make a substitution
He buys British.

Cannot argue with any of those points really!

Ban Gus, ban him, ban him

I love your signature

[gus ceasar is a legend]

I can think of reasons why Wenger is better than Fergscum too but I cannot argue with the points give n above!

[donaldo]

When it comes to winning trophies there is only one answer yes. Arsene has not won the big one the Champions league

[Wayno]

Fergie is definately a more successful manager in terms of trophies but does that necessarily make him a better manager? Considering the huge amounts of cash that Fergie has spent on players over the years, he has to date got to only one Champions League final, which is actually pretty woeful, Wenger has spent far less and got to the same amount of Champions League finals and at least that was this century

I honestly believe that Wenger is technically a better Manager, he has changed the whole mentality of the club, we were renowned for players going on drinker binges and gambling, we now have a club full of athletes. He introduced dieticians & new training methods, both of which have been emulated by other clubs. He inspired the club to build new training facilities and has kept us as one of the big four throughout the move to the new stadium.

Wenger doesn't buy superstars.....He makes them

[26may1989]

Don't shoot the messenger! Received this from a mate of mine who dared me to post it and if we all remove our Arsenal coloured glasses, it could be an interesting debate.

Ten reasons why Ferguson is better than Wenger.
Rarely goes a season without a trophy
The ability to win back to back titles
His teams don't lose their bottle
He doesn't have an annual battle to retain his best players
He won't sell a player until and unless he wants to
He invariably wins the big games
His teams know how to defend and play good football at the same time
He is not afraid to spend big or buy established stars
He doesn't wait until the 70th minute to make a substitution
He buys British.

Neither one is better than the other, they're just better at different things.

Of the 10 points, most are right, but Beckham would argue that he orchestrated his departure from OT, not Fergie. And I fail to see any advantage in the "Buy British" bullshit. In any event, United are looking less and less English/British with each season.

Wenger's clearly better than Fergie at spotting and improving unknown players, something that (as has become clearer) is especially important for us while we have little money to spend on buying players.

But Fergie, although a red-nosed *word censored*, is a great manager.

[REB]

HE BUYS BRITISH

lets see his last signings were
tevez
vidic
anderson
nani
hargraves
on top of saha, van der sar,èvra,ronaldo,polish keeper

so he bought rooney and carrick and ferdinand in the last how many seasons

win the big games,, just how many cl semis has he lost now and the last 2 fa cup finals he's been in

[SPUDMASHER]

Difficult to argue except for the second and last points.

Back to Back - A media invention to have a dig at us about 10 years ago. Doesn't mean anything really. Win every other year for 10 years is 5 championships. Win 2 lose 2 win 2 lose 2 win 1 lose 1 is still 5 championships in 10 years.

Buys British - who cares?

[Wayno]

Ten reasons why Wenger is better than Fergie

1, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

2, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

3, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

4, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

5, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

6, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

7, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

8, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

9, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

10, He is not a red nosed *word censored*

[I Hate Hleb]

Ten reasons why Ferguson is better than Wenger.

Rarely goes a season without a trophy

As already mentioned, has had the platform for the past decade. I remember him going about 6 years without a trophy when he first got to United, and 3 years without the title recently (2004-06).

The ability to win back to back titles

Don't give much credence to that. As Spudmasher said, a recent media and Fergie criteria invented to have a pop at Wenger and Arsenal.

His teams don't lose their bottle

How many European Cups have they won, despite being the biggest and Richest club in the world? The semi's against Bayer Laverkussun and AC Milan spring to mind as occasions when they 'bottled it'. One thing is for certain, it wasn't because of the lack of quality players.

He doesn't have an annual battle to retain his best players

Agree with that. However, although a great and successful club in their own right, because of their wealth, United can afford to pay more than Arsenal do.

He won't sell a player until and unless he wants to

True

He invariably wins the big games

True, although like I mentioned earlier, there are plenty of examples where he hasn't. Like Wenger, I think he didn't beat Mourinho during his time at Porto and Chelsea.

His teams know how to defend and play good football at the same time

Agree

He is not afraid to spend big or buy established stars

Agree. Although again, he has had the money there to do so.

He doesn't wait until the 70th minute to make a substitution

True

He buys British.

Don't think it is relevant, but not always - as his recent buys show. Also, when he does buy British, it is normally at a massive premium. Again, he has had the funds to do so, whereas Wenger hasn't..

[fridge]

I detest the man, but you can tjust say what he did with Man Utd, What he did at Aberdeen surpasses anything Wenger has done.

[Red Gunner]

He won't sell a player until and unless he wants to

This point could be attributed to Arsene as well. Because to say the truth, he hasn't lost many players or sold them, until he actually wanted to