Dave Whelan - oh dear.

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I agree that it is hypocritical of the media to take the high moral (or is it moral high?) ground over issues like this while certainly the tabloid section of the media has shown no mercy in destroying people's lives.
Whelan is an idiot and where his comments are more stupid than racist he shouldn't have made them. He is in a position that he should know better..

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Thing is - many people (even today) amongst their own social groups use terminology that if used in the wider circle of their community would be deemed (and rightly so) as offensive, it is a very difficult balance - I work within an enviroment where we daily deal with people who are homeless - the majority of whom are either addicted to drugs or alchohol often both - plus a whole other spectrum of life difficulties that sadly accompany such circumstances - often involving crime, I say this because the team of people I work with are neither racist, sexist or any of the other (negative) ists/isms - But sometimes just to be able to cope with sometimes harrowing situations - have developed what is often referred to as a Dark Sense of Humour, when I first joined the team - I was genuinely shocked at first - till after a while I realised sometimes we HAVE TO laugh at the most serious and awful of situations/circumstances as that is the only way to cope - Part of that release mechanism often involves humour than many would find offensive - not necessairly name calling etc - but it is often the only way we get through all the shyteness of a day.

So there is a time and a place etc - we might prefer it was different but that's how it is sometimes.

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Bradywasking wrote:I agree that it is hypocritical of the media to take the high moral (or is it moral high?) ground over issues like this while certainly the tabloid section of the media has shown no mercy in destroying people's lives.
Whelan is an idiot and where his comments are more stupid than racist he shouldn't have made them. He is in a position that he should know better..

Yes his comments are more stupid than racist and in hindsight he probably wishes he hadn't said it in public.
As an example, Andy Grays comments about a woman linesman. Probably the sort of thing most blokes have said at some point, (is it ok to make the same comments to a male linesman?) like woman drivers. The girls in my office thought he was a bit of a dickhead for saying it but that it was ridiculous to sack him over that.
But the media is big business now and they have their own agenda and as with a lot of issues today wont give up on hounding someone once they have got their teeth into them. With all the bad things going on in the world all these media lovies can think of is to pick up on something someone said. Some people may not like it but no one has died and no one has been hurt.

One thing we should all agree on is how these "groups" like to jump on the football bandwagon to get their point across, using our game to further their point, when really no one is interested.
Keeps people in jobs and gives some of them ideas above their station.

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Seeing as Whelan has just appointed Mackay, perhaps it would have been sensible to keep his mouth shut regarding anything that could be construed as adding fuel to that particular fire?

I'm not sure that running his mouth at a press conference like Bernard Manning was the best course of action.

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he owns the club outright - what can anyone do ?

i disagree with him, but we also have freedom of speech. and chinky is short for chinese - its not an insult like nigger or ****

who hasn't said "i'm going for a chinky" ? - its like saying "let go for a ruby after the pub" ?

its not PC but its not insulting either.

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Chippy wrote:
arseofacrow wrote:
SPARKSY wrote:
armchair wrote:WTF is the matter with you faggots? Gettin all self righteous all of a sudden.
Malky McKay is a racist? Ched Evans is a rapist?

So am I a fukin sheep shagger then? One sheep. One fukin sheep!
I thought one swallow does not a summer make etc......?
Walk a mile in my shoes then judge me. Fukin *word censored*!


:wink: :D

Exactly. Everyone is offended these days. :blah:
And i and everyone else has been called fat/skinny/midget/lanky. Even some nice Scots bloke calling us English unts in Glasgow.....................so fucking what.
The media are falling over themselves to let everyone know how straightlaced they are just protect their sales/revenue.
Football is no more rascist than any other business but the lovies out there are quick to use it for there own agenda ie Kick it out campaign.
If Whelan has offended you then ring/write to Wigan Athletic and tell him and save us all from this patronising crap.
Man, put yourself in the shoes of people who've been called these names and think for a second that the name calling is the thin end of a verylarge and often violent wedge.
This.



Racism and bigotry is surreptitious nowadays, but still very damaging.
Fuck Dave Whelan






WENGER OUT

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clockender1 wrote:he owns the club outright - what can anyone do ?

i disagree with him, but we also have freedom of speech. and chinky is short for chinese - its not an insult like nigger or ****

who hasn't said "i'm going for a chinky" ? - its like saying "let go for a ruby after the pub" ?

its not PC but its not insulting either.
Perhaps not when announcing your controversial appointment of a still controversial manager in public, eh?

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Poor Mario.

His heart was in the right place but the moral of the story is, check what it is that you are actually Tweeting/Instagramming!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -post.html

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SPARKSY wrote:
Bradywasking wrote:I agree that it is hypocritical of the media to take the high moral (or is it moral high?) ground over issues like this while certainly the tabloid section of the media has shown no mercy in destroying people's lives.
Whelan is an idiot and where his comments are more stupid than racist he shouldn't have made them. He is in a position that he should know better..

Yes his comments are more stupid than racist and in hindsight he probably wishes he hadn't said it in public.
As an example, Andy Grays comments about a woman linesman. Probably the sort of thing most blokes have said at some point, (is it ok to make the same comments to a male linesman?) like woman drivers. The girls in my office thought he was a bit of a dickhead for saying it but that it was ridiculous to sack him over that.
But the media is big business now and they have their own agenda and as with a lot of issues today wont give up on hounding someone once they have got their teeth into them. With all the bad things going on in the world all these media lovies can think of is to pick up on something someone said. Some people may not like it but no one has died and no one has been hurt.

One thing we should all agree on is how these "groups" like to jump on the football bandwagon to get their point across, using our game to further their point, when really no one is interested.
Keeps people in jobs and gives some of them ideas above their station.
My contacts at SkySports tell me the Hairy Hands/Gray sacking wasn't just for that comment, but because the two of them had instilled a poisonous bullying atmosphere there and had both gotten way too big for their boots, alienating every fucker and his cousin. The publication of their comments was just the public excuse Sky was waiting for to get rid of them without paying off their huge contracts.

By "contacts" I mean bloke down the pub. 8)

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QuartzGooner wrote:Poor Mario.

His heart was in the right place but the moral of the story is, check what it is that you are actually Tweeting/Instagramming!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -post.html
Ha he is so stupid it's unreal. Don't get me wrong, it's hardly the height of offensiveness and probably something that most people would have a small chuckle at. But equally it's hardly like it had a more sinister double meaning, or has been researched and blown out of all proportion like Ferdinand calling some slag a 'sket' (how ridiculous was his punishment???). It's just so blatantly anti-Semitic it beggars belief that a PL footballer would be stupid enough to post something like this.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
SPARKSY wrote:
Bradywasking wrote:I agree that it is hypocritical of the media to take the high moral (or is it moral high?) ground over issues like this while certainly the tabloid section of the media has shown no mercy in destroying people's lives.
Whelan is an idiot and where his comments are more stupid than racist he shouldn't have made them. He is in a position that he should know better..

Yes his comments are more stupid than racist and in hindsight he probably wishes he hadn't said it in public.
As an example, Andy Grays comments about a woman linesman. Probably the sort of thing most blokes have said at some point, (is it ok to make the same comments to a male linesman?) like woman drivers. The girls in my office thought he was a bit of a dickhead for saying it but that it was ridiculous to sack him over that.
But the media is big business now and they have their own agenda and as with a lot of issues today wont give up on hounding someone once they have got their teeth into them. With all the bad things going on in the world all these media lovies can think of is to pick up on something someone said. Some people may not like it but no one has died and no one has been hurt.

One thing we should all agree on is how these "groups" like to jump on the football bandwagon to get their point across, using our game to further their point, when really no one is interested.
Keeps people in jobs and gives some of them ideas above their station.
My contacts at SkySports tell me the Hairy Hands/Gray sacking wasn't just for that comment, but because the two of them had instilled a poisonous bullying atmosphere there and had both gotten way too big for their boots, alienating every fucker and his cousin. The publication of their comments was just the public excuse Sky was waiting for to get rid of them without paying off their huge contracts.

By "contacts" I mean bloke down the pub. 8)
Your bloke down the pub is possibly spot on , one story I heard was that the sighs of relief when they got the boot were loud and happy. One article said the make up ladies couldn't stand their arrogance.. I suppose when you are in an untouchable position for say eighteen years you lose respect for other people's feelings and opinions. (see what I am doing here?) .

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Bradywasking wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
SPARKSY wrote:
Bradywasking wrote:I agree that it is hypocritical of the media to take the high moral (or is it moral high?) ground over issues like this while certainly the tabloid section of the media has shown no mercy in destroying people's lives.
Whelan is an idiot and where his comments are more stupid than racist he shouldn't have made them. He is in a position that he should know better..

Yes his comments are more stupid than racist and in hindsight he probably wishes he hadn't said it in public.
As an example, Andy Grays comments about a woman linesman. Probably the sort of thing most blokes have said at some point, (is it ok to make the same comments to a male linesman?) like woman drivers. The girls in my office thought he was a bit of a dickhead for saying it but that it was ridiculous to sack him over that.
But the media is big business now and they have their own agenda and as with a lot of issues today wont give up on hounding someone once they have got their teeth into them. With all the bad things going on in the world all these media lovies can think of is to pick up on something someone said. Some people may not like it but no one has died and no one has been hurt.

One thing we should all agree on is how these "groups" like to jump on the football bandwagon to get their point across, using our game to further their point, when really no one is interested.
Keeps people in jobs and gives some of them ideas above their station.
My contacts at SkySports tell me the Hairy Hands/Gray sacking wasn't just for that comment, but because the two of them had instilled a poisonous bullying atmosphere there and had both gotten way too big for their boots, alienating every fucker and his cousin. The publication of their comments was just the public excuse Sky was waiting for to get rid of them without paying off their huge contracts.

By "contacts" I mean bloke down the pub. 8)
Your bloke down the pub is possibly spot on , one story I heard was that the sighs of relief when they got the boot were loud and happy. One article said the make up ladies couldn't stand their arrogance.. I suppose when you are in an untouchable position for say eighteen years you lose respect for other people's feelings and opinions. (see what I am doing here)
Yes. Yes, I do. And I like it. :D

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But...but...but Why? do you say 18years when we all know he has another 2 and a bit years to run on his (Present) contract


Talking of 'Contracts' - anyone know any Hit Men? :rubchin: :wink:

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northbank123 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Poor Mario.

His heart was in the right place but the moral of the story is, check what it is that you are actually Tweeting/Instagramming!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -post.html
Ha he is so stupid it's unreal. Don't get me wrong, it's hardly the height of offensiveness and probably something that most people would have a small chuckle at. But equally it's hardly like it had a more sinister double meaning, or has been researched and blown out of all proportion like Ferdinand calling some slag a 'sket' (how ridiculous was his punishment???). It's just so blatantly anti-Semitic it beggars belief that a PL footballer would be stupid enough to post something like this.
Mario is dumber than a bag of spanners. :oops: :lol:

Sometimes I feel sorry for him, but then I think this ignorant moron is a multi millionaire and the sympathy fades just a tad or so.... :roll:

Piglips though... that fucking moron thinks he's intelligent and that's far more offensive! :banghead: :lol:

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Dave Whelan is a silly old dinosaur *word censored* who should retire

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