SOUTHAMPTON HOME THREAD

[mcdowell42]

How many corners did we have last night ,and not once did we trouble their GK ,prior to the utd game we had 85 corners in the league this season and we scored a total of 1 goal from corners, a fucking disgrace.

[Dan_85]

Didn't see anything to shout about last night & once we finally scored my reaction was nothing more than "meh".

Honestly, the game was so dull. Before Giroud came on there was nothing - no pace, no ideas, no penetration. I can recall only one other real chance, the header from the free kick just before HT which drew a good reaction save from Forster. And yet of course the AKBs react like we've just tonked Bayern Munich and Wenger gets off the hook again, as always.

Expect a much stiffer test on Saturday.

[rigsby]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

Seriously, if your not happy when we win a game of football in the last minute when wil you be?

Alexis, i thought, was very average last night for him in terms of his overall game (he cant be brilliant everygame) - there is no doubt he is world class, to good for this team arguably - but if your willing to say the likes of Ramsey, Cazorla were under-par it should be noted he was as well. It was all too individual in the final third, which isnt usually the case.

We did enough to win i thought, its all well and good the media, guys on here saying we wernt great - but their keeper was MOM, so which is it? Giroud is an excellent centre forward in the PL - he offers something nobody else in our squad does and when fit, should start without question because our midfield will thrive playing off him. (Ramsey a key example).

Soemtimes you have to get the 3 points when you dont play well - they are a good side Southamption, well organised, and play some good football, they will give everyone a game. You need your big players to step up and Sanchez did that - people moan "where would we be without him?" - but we attacted him, paid for him, so its kind of irrelavant!

It was a 6/10 performance, but three games in a week with predominantly the same side (Wenger wont rotate to any large degree) and three wins, clean sheets is fantastic in isolation.

A word for Captain Stupid who i thought did a greta job in the last 10 winning the ball back and starting the attacks and for Martinez who dominated his area and he doesnt half have a kick on him!

Saturday is huge now, and we all love Stoke dont we!

[Clash]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

My love of Arsenal will ALWAYS beat my quesioning of Wenger - and il never want us to do anything but win a game of football.

So you would rather we lose ever game then? Its a weird state of mind!

[Clash]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

My love of Arsenal will ALWAYS beat my quesioning of Wenger - and il never want us to do anything but win a game of football.

So you would rather we lose ever game then? Its a weird state of mind!

I'm not gonna knock you for still having some passion mate. I envy you to be honest.

But you're looking at things in more of a black and white way e.g. winning is good; losing is bad. For me that line is becoming blurred because there are too many other factors involved.

I agree it is a weird state of mind and somewhat warped but that's what happens when things become meaningless to someone. The only time I feel any passion now is when I watch games from the past.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

My love of Arsenal will ALWAYS beat my quesioning of Wenger - and il never want us to do anything but win a game of football.

So you would rather we lose ever game then? Its a weird state of mind!

I'm not gonna knock you for still having some passion mate. I envy you to be honest.

But you're looking at things in more of a black and white way e.g. winning is good; losing is bad. For me that line is becoming blurred because there are too many other factors involved.

I agree it is a weird state of mind and somewhat warped but that's what happens when things become meaningless to someone. The only time I feel any passion now is when I watch games from the past.

Mate i agree with a lot of the anti-wenger stuff, i dont doubt your not on your own with how your feeling.

But Wenger will NOT quit mid-season and he wont be sacked, in my opinion he could walk at the end of the season - then the best way for us to attract a high quality manager would be to be in the top 4. Its debatable, but i think it makes us more of an attarctive proposition.

Wenger is the problem, but also the short-term solution really.

[Dan_85]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

This.

All I felt after that goal went in was that it changes nothing. On we go - top 4 again, CL again, L16 exit again, shambolic summer again, repeat ad infinitum.

I'm absolutely fucking sick of being stuck on the same fucking predictable ride for the last 7/8 years. I just want something different. Of course we'd all love that "something different" to be a PL or CL title, hammering the big boys along the way but right now i'd even take a season in the EL, fuck it. If that makes me a bad fan then so be it. I want something different, I want to experience a different set of emotions.

Current Arsenal leaves me feeling nothing but numb. There is no hope, what is it all for? What was last night for? So we can achieve a 4th place finish yet again? Fuck that, i've seen that movie on repeat for almost the last decade.

[armchair]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

My love of Arsenal will ALWAYS beat my quesioning of Wenger - and il never want us to do anything but win a game of football.

So you would rather we lose ever game then? Its a weird state of mind!

I'm not gonna knock you for still having some passion mate. I envy you to be honest.

But you're looking at things in more of a black and white way e.g. winning is good; losing is bad. For me that line is becoming blurred because there are too many other factors involved.

I agree it is a weird state of mind and somewhat warped but that's what happens when things become meaningless to someone. The only time I feel any passion now is when I watch games from the past.

Mate i agree with a lot of the anti-wenger stuff, i dont doubt your not on your own with how your feeling.

But Wenger will NOT quit mid-season and he wont be sacked, in my opinion he could walk at the end of the season - then the best way for us to attract a high quality manager would be to be in the top 4. Its debatable, but i think it makes us more of an attarctive proposition.

Wenger is the problem, but also the short-term solution really.

This is a good exchange and sums up how Wenger has gradually, over the years sucked a lot of the enjoyment out of watching the Arsenal. Its something that has tortured me for a long time. And the WOBs have to live with and its not a happy place to be.

[StuartL]

I know Martinez wasn't really tested at any stage, but I'd keep him in the team. The games he has played so far he hasn't done a whole lot wrong.

Agree, he should be kept in on merit and it is up to Szcezney / Ospina to displace him - it probably won't happen though, which sends out the wrong message that places in the team are earned on performance not reputation. - several players appear to be undroppable despite form.

[SteveO 35]

I could see exactly why Southampton have conceded so few goals based on last night. In Forster they have a really commanding keeper, two of the quickest full backs around (but who can actually defend) and two centre halves that stick to their man like glue and defend high up. Sometimes when we scrape past a team 1-0 or draw at home There's Only One sprouts some nonsense about "credit to them they defended very well" and it drives me fucking mental because half the time its some shit bunch of cloggers who just dropped deep and we tip tapped around them......but Southampton looked brilliantly organised.

I was hugely impressed with Wanyama and if he was to join us I would have no complaints whatsoever - has the mobility, the physical strength, timing and passing accuracy to make it in that role

As has been said already, the Giroud substitution made all the difference because the ball was coming back all too quickly......Martinez punt up field and then surprise, surprise, Fonte heads it away. Couldn't believe that hadn't already been sussed in the first half by the man who has worked in football for over 30 years but there you go.

Decent win - Saints for the top six at the end of the season

[clockender1]

Steve - they were also missing their main DM and Jack Cork who is a prospect also went off injured.

apparently koemann uses this mumbo jumbo nonsense called "building your team from the back"....

[SteveO 35]

Steve - they were also missing their main DM and Jack Cork who is a prospect also went off injured.

apparently koemann uses this mumbo jumbo nonsense called "building your team from the back"....

Yep, and they still looked rock solid. Koeman has built a better side than 1989's main man ( ) Pochettino in my humble...

[Gunnersaurus]

You said 'meh' at an Arsenal goal in the last minute to win a game? Stone me.

Not a Wenger fan, but credit where due, he did sign Alexis Sanchez who is unbelievable. Brilliant.

If you still have some enthusiasm for watching Arsenal and can celebrate a late winner then good for you!

But for an increasing number the interest is fading or has already faded. For me the very existence of Arsenal under this current regime has become utterly meaningless. Nothing is happening and the club is going nowhere. Not upwards or downwards. We are just stagnating.

In the commentary last night I kept hearing how it was ''vital'' or ''crucial'' that Arsenal won that game and I just kept asking myself why it was seen that way. Why was it vital to get 3 points? It's only vital for a top 4 place and whats vital about getting a top 4 place? The money? What is the money needed for? We already have money we're not spending so why is it vital we need more?

They way I see it is that while Wenger stays and Kroenke owns the club nothing will change and so nothing that happens on the pitch really matters.

All I thought when Sanchez scored last night was that Wenger had got off the hook yet again after another dreadful and insipid team performance that makes a mockery of his claims that ''something special is happening at the club''
'

My love of Arsenal will ALWAYS beat my quesioning of Wenger - and il never want us to do anything but win a game of football.

So you would rather we lose ever game then? Its a weird state of mind!

I'm not gonna knock you for still having some passion mate. I envy you to be honest.

But you're looking at things in more of a black and white way e.g. winning is good; losing is bad. For me that line is becoming blurred because there are too many other factors involved.

I agree it is a weird state of mind and somewhat warped but that's what happens when things become meaningless to someone. The only time I feel any passion now is when I watch games from the past.

Seems like more people hate Wenger more than they love the Arsenal now, stunning.

Was bored shitless and cold, glad we won although dont know how.