As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Grant jones wrote:Just watched the video of the team getting on the train and I have to I found it painful to see, I know everyone and his horse has an opinion at the moment, but come on reflect what this man has done for this club! You can have supported this club for a 100 years but we've not seen better football under ANY other manager!! I agree his time is up but that's no way to act towards him.
Mail, Telegraph, Star and even Metro ALL covering Wenker abuse at train station.
How humiliating for him. Hope that £8m is worth your public image being shat on every day....
Grant jones wrote:Just watched the video of the team getting on the train and I have to I found it painful to see, I know everyone and his horse has an opinion at the moment, but come on reflect what this man has done for this club! You can have supported this club for a 100 years but we've not seen better football under ANY other manager!! I agree his time is up but that's no way to act towards him.
as much as I hate him you are right it is painful to watch,it saddens me that its come to this but sadly the board wont/cant shift him as he has become a dictator and in his eyes he is Arsenal.the thing to remember though is that even dictators like Saddam Hussein and Hitler showed compassion at times which made you realise they were human and just sad old man,but it doesn't detract from the fact they were in it for their own personal gains and didnt actually give a flying fuck about anybody but there own twisted egos and ideals.8m a year to deliver nothing but bullshit,to run a gauntlet of hate at stoke train station is nothing to a man who can single handedly bring down a great club for the sake of his own massive ego and rake in that sort of wage,it takes the piss on all levels.we want OUR Arsenal back but we are gonna have to wrestle it away from his vice like grip,he needs telling Arsenal was ours before he got here and will be ours long after he's gone,Arsenal belongs to us not him,he was supposed to be taking care of it for for us,not making it his own project and moulding it to his own taste,the stupid fucking cartoon crest,the soulless space bowl with the highest ticket prices I could go on and on,oh to be at highbury with GG in charge,theres a man who bled red and white and managed Arsenal with the passion and pride only a true Arsenal man can,as for Wenker the man that lead the invincibles is gone long gone,the one we have now is a shell of a man who has brought this on himself sadly
Those abusing him do their - and our - cause no favours by shouting such vile obscenities at him. By all means swear and insult him on forums, but you do not act like that to someone's face; it makes you look childish. It's not constructive, he doesn't deserve it and everyone who wants a change is going to be tarred with the same brush.
The way to enact change is through initiatives like the banner; tastefully worded and respectful yet to the point. Like it or not image holds large swaying power over the majority of the public and if the face of the Wenger Out campaign is a collection of middle aged men swearing at an old man boarding a train then it's not going to get very far.
He's not Saddam Hussein. We're not trying to topple some sort of all powerful dictator with violence as the only available avenue, as much as it sometimes feels like it.
Rosicky's Right Boot wrote:Those abusing him do their - and our - cause no favours by shouting such vile obscenities at him. By all means swear and insult him on forums, but you do not act like that to someone's face; it makes you look childish. It's not constructive, he doesn't deserve it and everyone who wants a change is going to be tarred with the same brush.
The way to enact change is through initiatives like the banner; tastefully worded and respectful yet to the point. Like it or not image holds large swaying power over the majority of the public and if the face of the Wenger Out campaign is a collection of middle aged men swearing at an old man boarding a train then it's not going to get very far.
He's not Saddam Hussein. We're not trying to topple some sort of all powerful dictator with violence as the only available avenue, as much as it sometimes feels like it.
in case you hadn't notice banners asking Wenker to leave aren't allowed at the grove,nor any bits of paper or any bad language directed at him,we need to remove him by hook or by crook,we are too nice,and that's the problem
That booing and swearing just comes across as spiteful and crass.
If I was Wenger it would make me even more determined to stay in the job.
The case has to be made why it is no longer in our interest to have Wenger stay, not just an outpouring of anger.
A focus on the need for organised defence and more bite in the middle of the park, otherwise it is just raw hate which will produce antipathy from those who need to take note.
The fans are not too nice, they are not organised enough, not eloquent enough.
Shouting on the platform and the shouting on Arsenal fans TV is just too easy to brush off.
I did my bit in the early days of Arsenalfcnotplc, put a plan together, but others were so quick to dismiss the idea without trying it or outright went and twisted the campaign for their own ends.
Wenger has a three year deal and the owner of the club gave him that deal and unless we are relegated or Wenger is in a scandal of some sort, that is that.
markyp wrote:in case you hadn't notice banners asking Wenker to leave aren't allowed at the grove,nor any bits of paper or any bad language directed at him,we need to remove him by hook or by crook,we are too nice,and that's the problem
I know, I put a few posters up in the stairwell at the Southampton game as a litmus test for their reaction time to anti Wenger material and within 10 minutes every poster was gone.
That's not to say we can't do it though. They allocate 2 stewards per block. It's not difficult to get material into the ground and it wouldn't be difficult to quickly outnumber the stewards if people printed off their own posters at home and brought them en masse to the ground.
Has the banner even been attempted to be unfurled at the Emirates? They might confiscate it but you'd get a good few minutes of it being out before they could get to it. And that's what we need.
He's insulted the fans for years, taken the piss with team selections and transfers, lied too often about players' injuries and spent too long moanining about too much money in the game all whilst taking eight million fucking quid a year. There is a lot of stored up anger against him and now he's paying the price for being a massive, arrogant prick. Get the fucking banners and signs up now. The press need one shot to get a story going and put more pressure on him. He's so fucking arrogant that he'll probably say something facitious and make himself look like an even bigger bellend and heap more pressure on himself.