As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Herd wrote:I can only say one thing , please please Keep your protest respectful !
We are not Spurs or Chelsea and that sort of behavior is unacceptable
Exactly.
Sadly those of us holding that view on the incident seem to be in the minority on here if the Wenger thread is anything to go by.
The thing is the protest at the station is exactly what is required to get the end result we need, ie that fucking useless fucker out the door, so well done to everyone involved. Arsenal fans have been fannying around this issue for far too long, with apologetic wimp fucking protests and rumblings.
Wenger is an arrogant prick who has treated anyone who has questioned him (fans in particular) with utter fucking contempt. I hope he was shitting his fucking geriatric incontinence pants on Saturday and I hope he will face this sort of full blooded passionate protest everywhere he goes, until he does just fucking that.
The end is nigh for Wenker and anyone who feels he should be spared humiliation on the way, clearly needs to reflect on this arrogant fucking dictators treatment of us over the last 9 bastard years.
I think some points have been raised here on these last few pages…. Regardless of the differences we may each have on how and when we want Wenger to depart our Club, we do have a Common Goal – The Departure of Arsene Wenger from our Club – we all have different abilities - so maybe we can combine our different strengths etc and achieve Our Common Goal.
Some people may be very good at writing concise, precise prose. Perhaps if they could compile a number of Letter Template’s on here that list eloquently, yet firmly the reasons we want Wenger to depart – That we can all use (simply Cut & Paste and sign their name at the bottom)
Some people be very good at making banners
Some able to get hand-outs printed, but not feel so confident about actually handing them out.
Some have very good IT skills, and can design Hand outs or small posters – that without being abusive can still get across Our Message – Maybe in a ‘witty’ way, or in a way that cuts to the core?
IE: we all have various abilities and strengths, so let’s combine and employ those different abilities and strengths – at least then we cannot blame one another – or say I did this whilst everyone sat back and did sweet FA.
It would also be a another way of showing solidarity AND maybe reduce the in-fighting – that we are all tempted to get into – because we ALL feel the same frustrations – because we have someone managing the team who is not up to the job, besides the fact we have an owner who not only has not and does not invest in the club, but by geographically distancing himself from the club thinks he is out of reach and cannot be named and shamed (not that ‘shame’ is in his lexicon)
This is where we can use the internet and social media to (try and) embarrass him into changing how he is overseeing the club and those that run it.
The Sport’s Writer / Journalist Henry Winter recently wrote a very good piece on Wenger’s failings listing some of the reasons he is being criticised by the fans.
It would be very easy to use some of those very pertinent points in a letter to Wenger/ The Club.
But Quartz is right – we need to use all means at our disposal – Twitter/Facebook/E-mails, Letters – Banners/Hand-outs…
But we need to bombard the club with them – to the point of saturation, so they realise that we are Not Going Away and Something Has To Be Done.
It is up to US, if we really want change, we can ensure it happens – As someone bright spark once said:
“Be The Change You Want To See Happen”
We Can Achieve This. Enough IS Enough. I Want My Arsenal Back – Do You?
the problem I feel at the moment in terms of coordinating something is that no supporters groups are coming out and backing such a protest. we have (rather embarrassingly) Piers Morgan as a figure head and er thats about it.
the supporters groups are showing as little leadership as the manager sadly.
armchair wrote:Have to laugh at those "offended" by Wenger getting verbals at Stoke. Just shows how out of touch some really are.
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Lineker among many on social media appalled by this "abuse" of Wenger..How many of those media pricks spoke out when 70,000 Man Utd supporters were singing "sit down you pedophile" ? None is the answer to that. Two years ago Lineker mocked Wenger when he was getting a hard time at stoke, told him to "do one " if he didn't like it, smirked at images of Wenger on the floor in a Liverpool train station. These fucking hypocritical media scumbags piss me off as much as Wenger himself.
armchair wrote:Have to laugh at those "offended" by Wenger getting verbals at Stoke. Just shows how out of touch some really are.
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Lineker among many on social media appalled by this "abuse" of Wenger..How many of those media pricks spoke out when 70,000 Man Utd supporters were singing "sit down you pedophile" ? None is the answer to that. Two years ago Lineker mocked Wenger when he was getting a hard time at stoke, told him to "do one " if he didn't like it, smirked at images of Wenger on the floor in a Liverpool train station. These fucking hypocritical media scumbags piss me off as much as Wenger himself.
Lineker is the biggest bandwagon jumping, hypocritical *word censored* going. Ask the fans who have forked out thousands of pounds over the years to be treated like shit by Wanker about respect.
OneBardGooner wrote:I think some points have been raised here on these last few pages…. Regardless of the differences we may each have on how and when we want Wenger to depart our Club, we do have a Common Goal – The Departure of Arsene Wenger from our Club – we all have different abilities - so maybe we can combine our different strengths etc and achieve Our Common Goal.
Some people may be very good at writing concise, precise prose. Perhaps if they could compile a number of Letter Template’s on here that list eloquently, yet firmly the reasons we want Wenger to depart – That we can all use (simply Cut & Paste and sign their name at the bottom)
Some people be very good at making banners
Some able to get hand-outs printed, but not feel so confident about actually handing them out.
Some have very good IT skills, and can design Hand outs or small posters – that without being abusive can still get across Our Message – Maybe in a ‘witty’ way, or in a way that cuts to the core?
IE: we all have various abilities and strengths, so let’s combine and employ those different abilities and strengths – at least then we cannot blame one another – or say I did this whilst everyone sat back and did sweet FA.
It would also be a another way of showing solidarity AND maybe reduce the in-fighting – that we are all tempted to get into – because we ALL feel the same frustrations – because we have someone managing the team who is not up to the job, besides the fact we have an owner who not only has not and does not invest in the club, but by geographically distancing himself from the club thinks he is out of reach and cannot be named and shamed (not that ‘shame’ is in his lexicon)
This is where we can use the internet and social media to (try and) embarrass him into changing how he is overseeing the club and those that run it.
The Sport’s Writer / Journalist Henry Winter recently wrote a very good piece on Wenger’s failings listing some of the reasons he is being criticised by the fans.
It would be very easy to use some of those very pertinent points in a letter to Wenger/ The Club.
But Quartz is right – we need to use all means at our disposal – Twitter/Facebook/E-mails, Letters – Banners/Hand-outs…
But we need to bombard the club with them – to the point of saturation, so they realise that we are Not Going Away and Something Has To Be Done.
It is up to US, if we really want change, we can ensure it happens – As someone bright spark once said:
“Be The Change You Want To See Happen”
We Can Achieve This. Enough IS Enough. I Want My Arsenal Back – Do You?
Can I put myself forward for compiling some "letter templates"
the problem I feel at the moment in terms of coordinating something is that no supporters groups are coming out and backing such a protest. we have (rather embarrassingly) Piers Morgan as a figure head and er thats about it.
the supporters groups are showing as little leadership as the manager sadly.
Thats why no one gives these supporters groups the time of day. They play at being part of the inner circle at the club, when really the club laugh at them.
OneBardGooner wrote:I think some points have been raised here on these last few pages…. Regardless of the differences we may each have on how and when we want Wenger to depart our Club, we do have a Common Goal – The Departure of Arsene Wenger from our Club – we all have different abilities - so maybe we can combine our different strengths etc and achieve Our Common Goal.
Some people may be very good at writing concise, precise prose. Perhaps if they could compile a number of Letter Template’s on here that list eloquently, yet firmly the reasons we want Wenger to depart – That we can all use (simply Cut & Paste and sign their name at the bottom)
Some people be very good at making banners
Some able to get hand-outs printed, but not feel so confident about actually handing them out.
Some have very good IT skills, and can design Hand outs or small posters – that without being abusive can still get across Our Message – Maybe in a ‘witty’ way, or in a way that cuts to the core?
IE: we all have various abilities and strengths, so let’s combine and employ those different abilities and strengths – at least then we cannot blame one another – or say I did this whilst everyone sat back and did sweet FA.
It would also be a another way of showing solidarity AND maybe reduce the in-fighting – that we are all tempted to get into – because we ALL feel the same frustrations – because we have someone managing the team who is not up to the job, besides the fact we have an owner who not only has not and does not invest in the club, but by geographically distancing himself from the club thinks he is out of reach and cannot be named and shamed (not that ‘shame’ is in his lexicon)
This is where we can use the internet and social media to (try and) embarrass him into changing how he is overseeing the club and those that run it.
The Sport’s Writer / Journalist Henry Winter recently wrote a very good piece on Wenger’s failings listing some of the reasons he is being criticised by the fans.
It would be very easy to use some of those very pertinent points in a letter to Wenger/ The Club.
But Quartz is right – we need to use all means at our disposal – Twitter/Facebook/E-mails, Letters – Banners/Hand-outs…
But we need to bombard the club with them – to the point of saturation, so they realise that we are Not Going Away and Something Has To Be Done.
It is up to US, if we really want change, we can ensure it happens – As someone bright spark once said:
“Be The Change You Want To See Happen”
We Can Achieve This. Enough IS Enough. I Want My Arsenal Back – Do You?
Can I put myself forward for compiling some "letter templates"
Of Course Sid - and may I say Well Done That Gooner
I'm sure DB & Quartz will also have a few ideas.....
I'm in the middle of one myself - so let's see what we can come up with....
Herd wrote:I can only say one thing , please please Keep your protest respectful !
We are not Spurs or Chelsea and that sort of behavior is unacceptable
Exactly.
Sadly those of us holding that view on the incident seem to be in the minority on here if the Wenger thread is anything to go by.
Honestly guys - it sounded like three or four pissed up blokes.....hardly some mass revolt of the thousands. Can't believe in a day and age where people receive violent verbal abuse on social media every day, and where every footballer who takes a corner is subject to dog's abuse......that a tiny handful of blokes shouting "fuck off" makes headline news !
Exactly. The ones who are so easily offended, like the disciple Lineker, are the ones who happily preach from their armchairs.
Try spending thousands every season to watch this shit.
How many times has Lineker paid hard earned cash for a season ticket in his life, how many times has Lineker travelled up and down the country in all weathers, on public transport to get to games. How many times has Lineker stood on the terraces having spent a fair chunk of his weekly wage to watch the shit we are being served? FUCKING NEVER!!
Those supporters, and they are supporters, who were at Stoke station are fed up to the back teeth after years of drivel and being taken for idiots. What happened was years of frustration at having the piss taken out of them. So for Wenger to have a few boos or nasty words shouted doesn't even come near to what these supporters have had thrown at them. So before the armchair bandits pipe up think of those who have paid their hard earned rather than just their Sky subscription.
And no i wasn't at Stoke on saturday but i am a ST holder and do regularly travel across the country watching the same old shit every time.
Lineker is a dumbo eared dickhead who thinks that because he (allegedly) shagged royalty years ago, he should now be treated as royalty himself when he should actually be treated as the arrogant smug c.unt that he is
augie wrote:Lineker is a dumbo eared dickhead who thinks that because he (allegedly) shagged royalty years ago, he should now be treated as royalty himself when he should actually be treated as the arrogant smug c.unt that he is
Lineker is the epitome of the modern pundit. Populist cretin who is incapable of reaching a view on his own and unwilling to say anything which may Rock the boat. I have more time for people like Adrian Durham who, despite being a complete and utter WUM, at least isn't a sanitised wanker trotting out lines that he thinks people want to hear. He is even lower than clueless turncoats whose opinions change like the wind, the likes of Piers Morgan and Merson included.
augie wrote:Lineker is a dumbo eared dickhead who thinks that because he (allegedly) shagged royalty years ago, he should now be treated as royalty himself when he should actually be treated as the arrogant smug c.unt that he is
This is my letter, obviously it only is applicable to me but maybe the idea can help. Home Address
Recipient's Name ( i.e. Ivan)
Recipient's Address.
Dear Mr Gazidis ,
I am writing to you to express my dismay at the deterioration of standards at Arsenal F.C. This deterioration has led to feelings running very high among Arsenal supporters. it is my long held belief that, as this state of affairs has occurred on your watch ,that you as CEO of Arsenal FC are partly responsible for it. The responsibility is overall collective and I would appropriation the majority of blame on the current manager Mr Wenger along with major shareholder Mr Kronke.
I have supported Arsenal for 42 years, through thick and thin , good and bad. My support of the glorious institution is not pre conditioned or determined by success on the pitch. I grew up in a small village in rural Ireland, my first experience of watching football was the 1970 World Cup on TV, my first experience of watching club football was the FA Cup Final of 1971. I began supporting Arsenal FC in 1972 when as a child I felt so sorry for the Arsenal players following the FA Cup Final defeat to Leeds United . I had no inherited ties and obviously no geographical ties to Arsenal FC. But my heart was won by the style and uniqueness of "my club". As I got older I learned more about the club and it's place in history. The stories of how the tube station changed name, the flowers in the colour of the opposition in the boardroom on match days. Everything about this club demonstrated that The Arsenal went about its affairs the correct way , The Arsenal way.
My first visit to Highbury was before the Taylor report and all seater stadiums, I emerged from the tube station into a grey October afternoon and there were honestly tears in my eyes as I saw for the first time the majestic stadium as it stood among the houses and streets. Walking by the North Bank I was actually jealous of the supporters queuing up to stand on the terrace , I had a ticket for the west Stand Lower but wanted to be on the terrace, among my own you might say.
A quick walk around to the main entrance and a kindly commissioner allowed my friend and I into the Marble Halls to have a photograph taken with the bust of the legendary Herbert Chapman. The place screamed "history".
I, along with most Arsenal fans, bought into the logic of leaving that most beautiful setting and move to the new stadium in Ashburton Grove. We bought into a dream . A dream not being realised by a club, overseen by you, that has settled into a comfort zone of mediocrity. We were to compete with the Spanish and German giants and bring the Champions League to London, it was a dream , a must for Arsenal fans that our club be the first from London to be crowned European Champions.
We have dropped our standards to such a level that we are not competing with the Spanish or German club's we actually are barely competing with our North London neighbours and other clubs of that level. We are THE ARSENAL and we are losing at Stoke City. Football clubs will always lose game, The great 1930s side lost an FA Cup game at Walsall for example, but we are not competing. We are in such a sorry state of affairs that there is infighting among our support. Loyalties have been stretched to such a limit that lifelong Arsenal fans are hoping for defeats in order to speed up the change that we all know our club is crying out so loudly for.
Do not suggest for one minute that these supporters or those that were at Stoke on Trent train station are not "true " Arsenal supporters. They are and I am. I still want Arsenal to win games but for the first time in that 42 years the wins mean less and less to me. I know this malaise can only end with the departure from our club of Mr Kronke, Mr Wenger and you.
I appreciate the service and innovation that Mr Wenger has given , not just Arsenal FC but also football. But his legacy is now so tainted by the acceptance of failure and mediocrity that I can no longer look back on his early years with any fondness. This hurts me to the very core. Sadly by way of how I see my club's attitude towards supporters and more so their opinion of me it equally pains me to believe my views and my support are no longer cared for by Arsenal FC or PLC .
I see an Arsenal that views it's support more favourably when they are queuing in the Armoury with their purchases than it does those who travel over land and sea to support the club.
It has been an agonising nine or so seasons since moving stadium, the promises have been broken and the dreams are in tatters . We are told to be grateful and be "careful what we wish for". We have witnessed humiliation at Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, St James Park, Anfield, Goodison, Liberty Stadium, San Siro, Nou Camp , White Heart Lane and many other places. We saw top player after top player being sold and all too often replaced by mediocre imports.
We are customers of a money making corporation, our support , our emotional investment means nothing to Arsenal 2014 model. There was a club that cared about its support, that club lived a few hundred yards from your plush surroundings . There was a football stadium a few hundred yards from the tourist trap glass house Arsenal PLC now occupy.
I am carefully thinking about what I am wishing for Mr Gazidis, and I wish to have my Arsenal back . You and Mr Wenger or Mr Kronke cannot be part of that. For as long as you are in charge of Arsenal it can no longer be my club. I will not attend a home game until such time you all leave.
Seriously??!! 
