Hull FA Cup

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3-0 to The Arsenal

[SteveO 35]

Every defeat increases the pressure. if we are losing regularly then the players who aren't playing will get more pissed off that they aren't getting the chance, therefore the dressing room becomes even more fractured and leads to more pressure on Monsieur Ego.
Come on Hull, you can do this!!

Except it doesn't

The main who lost a final to Birmingham and in recent seasons has presided over Cup calamities galore - Blackburn, Bradford, 0-4 at ManUre, 1-3 at Stoke, 1-5 at the lane in the League Cup, Burnley etc

Defeat today means nothing to him or Kroenke - they'll be relieved we can focus on the Be All and End All of 4th place glory

[northbank123]

It will increase the media scrutiny and fan discontent.

This will then dissipate when we win 7 of our 9 games in Feb and March and scrape past Monaco.

Wenger will then be spending big this summer and naturally will realise our shortcomings and address them.

[armchair]

Of course defeats increase the pressure on Wenger.
The pressure may not come from Kronke, because as has been rightly pointed out numerous times, Kronke is firmly of the opinion that "if its not broke dont fix it..."

No, the pressure comes from increasing fan dissatisfaction, sustained media scrutiny and certain member of the board angling to reduce Wengers stranglehold on every aspect of the club. Big money was spent on Ozil only because of these factors and the season ticket waiting list numbers falling through the floor. And was done above Wengers head imo.

Wengers ego wont allow him to be criticised and ridiculed for a sustained period. He would hate it. He loves to be Mr Wonderful. Mr Smug, with his slimy grins at the press. Soon as anyone questions him he cant take it.

So yes while there is no pressure from Kronke, that doesnt necessarily mean he will see out his contract. His massive disgusting ego that has for so long been holding us back and disenfranchising so many gooners could yet be our saviour.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Of course defeats increase the pressure on Wenger.
The pressure may not come from Kronke, because as has been rightly pointed out numerous times, Kronke is firmly of the opinion that "if its not broke dont fix it..."

No, the pressure comes from increasing fan dissatisfaction, sustained media scrutiny and certain member of the board angling to reduce Wengers stranglehold on every aspect of the club. Big money was spent on Ozil only because of these factors and the season ticket waiting list numbers falling through the floor. And was done above Wengers head imo.

Wengers ego wont allow him to be criticised and ridiculed for a sustained period. He would hate it. He loves to be Mr Wonderful. Mr Smug, with his slimy grins at the press. Soon as anyone questions him he cant take it.

So yes while there is no pressure from Kronke, that doesnt necessarily mean he will see out his contract. His massive disgusting ego that has for so long been holding us back and disenfranchising so many gooners could yet be our saviour.

I agree. The man has to be ridiculed in public by the media and he can't take it. However, the media won't do it, at least not just yet. The thing is that we need to do much worse than this before media starts to haunt him. The truth is that media has still huge respect for him. I think that in England they feel that wenker did bring revolution not only to Arsenal but to whole English football and that his Arsenal was the leading star in PL to make the league more respected in whole Europe.

[northbank123]

It was over 2 years ago that the fans chanted "you don't know what you're doing" after another Wenger-inspired insipid performance at Villa Park complete with bizarre substitution. This was followed by one of the most arrogant, condescending, disrespectful press conferences ever seen.

Look at what's happened at the club since then and how little pressure has really increased on Wenger, two years and two or three outings of the banner and a few pissed blokes shouting at Stoke train station to show for it. After last seasons drubbing and capitulation people combined with the increased by spectacular after the FA cup win and signing of Sanchez most people would have said the pressure on Wenger would be much higher but we have been dreadful this season and he's still comfortably sitting there.

[augie]

Losing games will def bring a lot more pressure on le cock - we have all seen his reaction to media criticism (take a bow Jackie oatley ) and we have all seen that the fans support for him is teetering on the edge like never before, and it is from these avenues that the pressure will come on him

For what it is worth I expect an easy 3-1 victory today - this season has seen a change in fortunes for hull and right now their focus will be 100% on escaping relegation and they will play a weakened team today as a result. With a first choice hull 11 they could have given us a game (we would still have won though) but they certainly don't have back ups good enough to beat us regardless of how poorly we are playing

[armchair]

It was the FA Cup win that conversely done for us. Horrible as it may sound.

I honestly dont think he could have survived losing that and I dont think he could or would have renewed.

[BFG4]

It was the FA Cup win that conversely done for us. Horrible as it may sound.

I honestly dont think he could have survived losing that and I dont think he could or would have renewed.

He claimed only the other day that had he lost the final, he wouldn't have left, and although that might be bullshit, I think there would have been plenty of apologists there to defend him for losing the final, and in turn, encouraging him to sign a new deal. There is, and always will be a large number of AKB'S, and will defend wanker, no matter what, its why he has lasted as long as he has. Funny how no fan thought finishing 4th was an achievement in the late 90's and early 00's, but once Wenger tells them it is, they go along with it.

[augie]

It was the FA Cup win that conversely done for us. Horrible as it may sound.

I honestly dont think he could have survived losing that and I dont think he could or would have renewed.

He claimed only the other day that had he lost the final, he wouldn't have left, and although that might be bullshit, I think there would have been plenty of apologists there to defend him for losing the final, and in turn, encouraging him to sign a new deal. There is, and always will be a large number of AKB'S, and will defend wanker, no matter what, its why he has lasted as long as he has. Funny how no fan thought finishing 4th was an achievement in the late 90's and early 00's, but once Wenger tells them it is, they go along with it.

I don't believe that he would have been able to say - yes there will always be fans making excuses for him, but losing that cup final would have had the vast majority turning against him and they would have made it impossible for him to stay

[armchair]

It was the FA Cup win that conversely done for us. Horrible as it may sound.

I honestly dont think he could have survived losing that and I dont think he could or would have renewed.

He claimed only the other day that had he lost the final, he wouldn't have left, and although that might be bullshit, I think there would have been plenty of apologists there to defend him for losing the final, and in turn, encouraging him to sign a new deal. There is, and always will be a large number of AKB'S, and will defend wanker, no matter what, its why he has lasted as long as he has. Funny how no fan thought finishing 4th was an achievement in the late 90's and early 00's, but once Wenger tells them it is, they go along with it.

Yes I know I read that article too. I dont believe his bullshit for a second.

[Chippy]

Decided not to go. Cold and miserable, trains fucked and it will be a dire game. BBC1 with glass of red in front of the fire.

[mcdowell42]

Hull make 10 changes from their last game vs Everton.
4:33pm - 4 Jan 15

[mcdowell42]

Arsenal: Ospina, Bellerin, Chambers, Mertesacker, Monreal, Coquelin, Rosicky, Cazorla, Walcott, Campbell, Alexis
4:35pm - 4 Jan 15

[mcdowell42]

Subs: Martinez, Debuchy, Koscielny, Zelalem, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Maitland-Niles, Akpom
4:36pm - 4 Jan 15