THE WENGER THREAD

[DB10GOONER]

Robin, Steve, Laughing.... you are coming across as idiots and WUM's to be honest. Majority on here are thrilled with a great win, but based in reality as we are, we are still concerned about the team and the manager. This is the first really solid victory against a top top PL side away from home in how long? ONE great performance, and ONE correct piece of team management does not magically push away the years and years of poor management. The very fact that 2 of you post basically nothing on here for months when we are shit, and then come popping back on here after ONE win yapping out of you like 2 little schoolgirls that have just had their first fuck is pathetic tbh.

You do your AKB colleagues no favours.

Anyballs, it was a great win. We were brilliant as a team. Our work rate was phenomenal. Santi was deserved MOTM. Giroud showed how well he links up and scored a decent goal too. Belerin continues to improve. Kos was solid and it was Mert's best game of the season so far (even though both made a few basic errors). Only flies in the ointment for me were The Ox seemed to do well and then pick the wrong ball at the end of every run and, worse, Ramsey who is now fully back to his backheeling, outstepping everything, flicking, pompous, over elaborate, overplaying, wrong-option-choosing, worst of two seasons ago. Only redeeming feature of his game yesterday was he never stoppped working and running, but that's just not enough at this level. The Coq played well, but I always feel he is only moments away from a red card.

Regarding the tactics, my worry is now the meeja and the pundits are pointing out that basically Wenger got it right for ONCE (and he did, apart from the manic indiscipline of the first 15 mins of the second half) Wenger's ego will be offended and he will revert to the stupid cavalier approach that led to the 8-2, 6-3, 5-0 humiliations of recent seasons - his version of thumbing his nose at the lesser mortals that haven't worked over 30 years in football. The pundits all pointing out how brilliant Santi was when played in his right position? What odds Santi is out wide again next game?

[defleppardisking]

Isn't it funny when we rightfully criticized Wenger AKB called us Wenger haters or moaners. As if we hated Wenger since day one he was appointed as the manager. Fucking hell to them he can't just be criticized. He's like a god and they are his staunch followers.

[Sam59]

Wenger and the team got it right yesterday. However when Jack is fit again, will Santi (and Ozil) be pushed wide to accommodate him?! Jack's long term injury should've been a blessing in disguise. Before he got injured, Santi was benched or wide. Wilshere is so far from a creative no 10 as to make his shirt number a sick joke. But this is the player Wenger was building our midfield around.

Wasn't sure why Ramsey pushed forward so much in the first 15 mins of the second half? It left gaps that City should've exploited.
Wenger instructions? Or because his legs had gone so he couldn't track back any more?
Anyhow am still delighted and will give the players confidence, which they badly need.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Excellent result, buzzing tonight finally beat one of the big boys away in a very disciplined performance

Steve_I i'd just like to ask why you weren't posting when results were nowhere near as good?

I was Muzz and the fickleness some folk show by reacting to my post after a good result shows, to me, how shallow some folk are. I posted regularly after defeats, wins, good and bad performances and if people want to get wound up by the fact i have posted specifically today then I guess, in that respect I have wound them up and am therefore a 'wum'. lol

I happened to look today for the second or third time since i stopped posting. I noticed it was the same roundabout sad arguments and insightless comments that it ever was and will sod off again for another year and leave the small unhapy few to themselves.

Wohoo, Wenger is a magician after all. Just like that he erased away past 10 years of failures in a one single match. Luckily I'm not that much into magic tricks...

[Blade]

Those dissenters who lament Arsene Wenger’s perceived stubbornness are quiet on days like this.

James Olley.

Of course!.. fans have been telling him for 5 years to do this!.[3 midgets + 1 defensive MF]

[augie]

I don't understand the comments suggesting that "the majority" on here are delighted with the win..........who exactly are the posters that are in the minority ? As one absolute wenker hater (and I admit that is what I am), I have openly expressed my delight about the manner of the win yesterday, and it was so pleasing to be reminded of the days of old when wins were borne out of determination and guts.

At the same time I must admit that today my feelings are fluctuating between highs and lows - the highs obviously come from yesterdays performance but the low comes from the reality that le cock will feel that we are good enough based on that one win, when we all know that he is way wrong

[OneBardGooner]

Like most on here I am still 100% against Wenger - However I am still Buzzing following yesterdays Superb team performance - They really played as a 11 Man Unit - something they have not done since the 2007/08 season.

But what I do not understand is 'How' and 'Why' - I keep thinking that maybe some Doppleganger or Alien being has surplanted the Arsene Wenger we have come to know and dislike.

Why? oh! The F why? has he not adopted 'Tactics' before - They may have a regular Game Plan called Tippy Tappy go Gung Ho, but yesterday was a whole new ball game ( No Pun Intended) - but yesterday was a clear example of a manager - looking at the oppositions strength's and weaknesses and adopting our game and personnel - to match and out play them.

After watching the game for the first 20 minutes I kept thinking is this MY Arsenal I am watching or am I f'ing dreaming!?

I am Delighted and Totally Buzzing ( especially because some melt in the office - who started supporting man$hitty a whole 3 seasons ago - is going on about Monreal diving - and I just keep singing "Sing THE Arsenal TWO - NILLLL!" ) - I just hope this is a New Way of Doing Things - and that somehow Arsene Wenger has added a new (tactics) string to his bow, that he has admitted to himself that we need a number of approaches to whomever we are playing in the prem.....

No one would be more happy to see him 'Change' and enable us to compete with Anyone on all fronts...


I guess we will know over the next 2 - 3 weeks - Was it a One Off - Or Has he discovered he CAN do tactics...


BIG Shout Out to Cazorla and Coq and Ospina (very safe hands)


COYG!

[BFG4]

Like most on here I am still 100% against Wenger - However I am still Buzzing following yesterdays Superb team performance - They really played as a 11 Man Unit - something they have not done since the 2007/08 season.

But what I do not understand is 'How' and 'Why' - I keep thinking that maybe some Doppleganger or Alien being has surplanted the Arsene Wenger we have come to know and dislike.

Why? oh! The F why? has he not adopted 'Tactics' before - They may have a regular Game Plan called Tippy Tappy go Gung Ho, but yesterday was a whole new ball game ( No Pun Intended) - but yesterday was a clear example of a manager - looking at the oppositions strength's and weaknesses and adopting our game and personnel - to match and out play them.

After watching the game for the first 20 minutes I kept thinking is this MY Arsenal I am watching or am I f'ing dreaming!?

I am Delighted and Totally Buzzing ( especially because some melt in the office - who started supporting man$hitty a whole 3 seasons ago - is going on about Monreal diving - and I just keep singing "Sing THE Arsenal TWO - NILLLL!" ) - I just hope this is a New Way of Doing Things - and that somehow Arsene Wenger has added a new (tactics) string to his bow, that he has admitted to himself that we need a number of approaches to whomever we are playing in the prem.....

No one would be more happy to see him 'Change' and enable us to compete with Anyone on all fronts...


I guess we will know over the next 2 - 3 weeks - Was it a One Off - Or Has he discovered he CAN do tactics...


BIG Shout Out to Cazorla and Coq and Ospina (very safe hands)


COYG!

Not to be overly negative, but I get the feeling that yesterday was a case of Wenger knowing that he couldn't take another hammering, as it would bring a lot more dissent against him, so he set up in a way that if we lost, it would only be by the odd goal or two, and it worked out far better than expected, as the team put in a great performance. I still cant see us adapting our game, except the next time we meet a big side. Games like Swansea away will happen again, in which we over commit in attack, and leave ourselves exposed at the back.

[markyp]

anybody who thinks yesterdays win is the start of a new dawn or that it proves AW is worth 8m a year is as deluded as our dear leader himself,get a fucking grip you AKB'S

[Steve_I]

The fact that people think I posted just because of the win against city is one reason why I stopped posting. Can't be arsed with the ner ner ner ner ner stuff.

I posted yesterday, not out of winding people up (heck no need for me to try to do that when folk wind themselves up easily enough) but because I wondered how the forum had progressed. Whether there was still mainly vehement anti arsene stuff and slagging him off. I read it and posted my thoughts accordingly, i.e. that in my opinion a lot of what is said was wan.k. If that upsets folk then hey, wtf can I do about it? Folk have to deal with it like adults.

If people choose to decide I came after one good result then perhaps they could ask themselves why I didnt turn up post FA cup, charity Shield and any other victory.

I would never be so fickle as to think one result can make a difference and I would expect every gooner to revel in Sunday's outcome, performance and entertainment. I would expect anyone to get miffed at any defeat.

I stand by my missive from previously when I posted for a little while. In 8 years time (youll see if you care to look I started at 'ten years time 2 seasons ago) I believe we will have won silverware on numerous occasions. I will add that I also now believe in 8 years we will look back on a champions league victory as well as more than one premiership. I believe this is because and certainly not in spite of, Arsene Wenger and what he has done and is doing for our club. I think we are in excellent shape and have some phenomenal players creating a solid foundation to do what i believe we will.

I left the forum, not only for the reason I stated above but also, and in the main, that, at the time, while folk were slagging Arsene off, there was actual praise of Mourinho on the forum. Whatever folks own views on our current manager, I couldnt comprehend comments slagging our - to my mind successful and highly competent - manager off whilst licking the arse of mourinho. That, to my way of thinking, is symptomatic of how much people have let their hatred of our mnanager, skew their own realities.

CAll me a WUM (lol) as much as you like, but I can only wind people up who allow themselves to be and that will be because they cant reason with my point of view nor comprehend that I might actually be right and them wrong. On another day on another forum, most here would be WUMs (lol)

Accept all that and maybe the forum could become something good again, as I was informed it once was.

[arseofacrow]

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Accept all that and maybe the forum could become something good again, as I was informed it once was.

Cheers.

[augie]

The fact that people think I posted just because of the win against city is one reason why I stopped posting. Can't be arsed with the ner ner ner ner ner stuff.

I posted yesterday, not out of winding people up (heck no need for me to try to do that when folk wind themselves up easily enough) but because I wondered how the forum had progressed. Whether there was still mainly vehement anti arsene stuff and slagging him off. I read it and posted my thoughts accordingly, i.e. that in my opinion a lot of what is said was wan.k. If that upsets folk then hey, wtf can I do about it? Folk have to deal with it like adults.

If people choose to decide I came after one good result then perhaps they could ask themselves why I didnt turn up post FA cup, charity Shield and any other victory.

I would never be so fickle as to think one result can make a difference and I would expect every gooner to revel in Sunday's outcome, performance and entertainment. I would expect anyone to get miffed at any defeat.

I stand by my missive from previously when I posted for a little while. In 8 years time (youll see if you care to look I started at 'ten years time 2 seasons ago) I believe we will have won silverware on numerous occasions. I will add that I also now believe in 8 years we will look back on a champions league victory as well as more than one premiership. I believe this is because and certainly not in spite of, Arsene Wenger and what he has done and is doing for our club. I think we are in excellent shape and have some phenomenal players creating a solid foundation to do what i believe we will.

I left the forum, not only for the reason I stated above but also, and in the main, that, at the time, while folk were slagging Arsene off, there was actual praise of Mourinho on the forum. Whatever folks own views on our current manager, I couldnt comprehend comments slagging our - to my mind successful and highly competent - manager off whilst licking the arse of mourinho. That, to my way of thinking, is symptomatic of how much people have let their hatred of our mnanager, skew their own realities.

CAll me a WUM (lol) as much as you like, but I can only wind people up who allow themselves to be and that will be because they cant reason with my point of view nor comprehend that I might actually be right and them wrong. On another day on another forum, most here would be WUMs (lol)

Accept all that and maybe the forum could become something good again, as I was informed it once was.

Carry on as you were

[armchair]

Poor diddums has missed being the centre of attention.

[Gunner Rob]

I stand by my missive from previously when I posted for a little while. In 8 years time (youll see if you care to look I started at 'ten years time 2 seasons ago) I believe we will have won silverware on numerous occasions. I will add that I also now believe in 8 years we will look back on a champions league victory as well as more than one premiership. I believe this is because and certainly not in spite of, Arsene Wenger and what he has done and is doing for our club. I think we are in excellent shape and have some phenomenal players creating a solid foundation to do what i believe we will.
own realities.

where on earth did you come up with this rubbish from ?
we produced a good performance yesterday admittedly but to say we are going to be world beaters because of it is deluded in the extreme. the problem is consistency. we can't produce that week in week out. if we could then we would be challenging for the title this season - we are not. we are currently 5th and have 12 points fewer at this stage of the season than last year.

we have always been in excellent shape and have a solid foundation, however there is no ambition at the club to grow those foundations and that is why so many people moan on here. we will finish 4th this year and that will probably mean we finish 4th again next season too. that is the height of the clubs ambition. if it was anything more then Wenger wouldnt have been offered a 3 year contract extension. what part of that do you not understand??

[GoonerMuzz]

I have to Echo Gunner Rob here, the problem is consistency and we are unable to show it under Arsene Wenger and have been unable to do so for many seasons.

Simply put one or two good results do not out weigh the incredibly bad results this season, nor from previous seasons.

A simple test of this is points total, we currently have 39 points, to better last season we need 80 points or more, there are 16 games left so 48 points available. We need 41 points to better last season meaning we can afford to drop 7.

With the best will in the world for the team i love i just cannot see us managing it. We are far too inconsistent, we drop too many points where we shouldn't and this is mainly down to the way he sets us up in games.

I hope i'm wrong at the end of the season but i honestly don't believe Wenger is capable of keeping the team playing consistently to effectively win 13 games and draw at least two out of the last 16.

If any of Wenger's supporters can put together a cohesive argument that he can then i will always be willing to listen