THE MIDDLESEX SWAMP DWELLERS AWAY THREAD

[manorhouse]

TYpical example is Giroud, we know hes a good player but was total rubbish today, did not seem interested could not hold the ball up kept losing it.,and worst of all looked LAZY.....Oh Yeah must Wengers fault......Ramsey and Cazorla wernt much better

[armchair]

TYpical example is Giroud, we know hes a good player but was total rubbish today, did not seem interested could not hold the ball up kept losing it.,and worst of all looked LAZY.....Oh Yeah must Wengers fault......Ramsey and Cazorla wernt much better

Manager is supposed to recognise this kind of underperformance ( you and I could see it) and change it. 8 mill per year to do it too.
You dont want to get it do ya?

[the playing mantis]

TYpical example is Giroud, we know hes a good player but was total rubbish today, did not seem interested could not hold the ball up kept losing it.,and worst of all looked LAZY.....Oh Yeah must Wengers fault......Ramsey and Cazorla wernt much better

wf, giroud was completely isolated by cluelesses crappy set up and tactics (or lack of), ie cede all possesion and attacking intent and just encourage the opposition to attack us at will.

that was the main problem.

why did ramsey remain on the pitch, he has been most of his arsenal career, bar one glorious goalscoring 3rd of a season, pretty crap. who makes the decisions to change things?

who set up those tactics of inviting the scum on all game?

[armchair]

I dont actually mind that we set up to sit back, concede possesion, and hit em on the break. Dont mind at all. It worked at City and we were all delighted at the change of tactics because in the past Wenger has been rightly criticised for only playing one way and having no plan B

Well today seemed to be the opposite. We sat back and conceded possession but when we did get the ball we couldnt keep it and kept giving it straight back to them. Yes Caz and Rambo were poor but agai its down to Wenger to recognise these problems and take steps to change them. Instead he waited until the 66th min to make a change. Like so eone has said too little, too late.

[the playing mantis]

I dont actually mind that we set up to sit back, concede possesion, and hit em on the break. Dont mind at all. It worked at City and we were all delighted at the change of tactics because in the past Wenger has been rightly criticised for only playing one way and having no plan B

Well today seemed to be the opposite. We sat back and conceded possession but when we did get the ball we couldnt keep it and kept giving it straight back to them. Yes Caz and Rambo were poor but agai its down to Wenger to recognise these problems and take steps to change them. Instead he waited until the 66th min to make a change. Like so eone has said too little, too late.

its a complete different story setting up like that against a quality side with worldy players like city, and against a oh so average spurs team. set up like that away against teams who are better than us fine, but not teams we should attack and get at cos their not very good.

why give them the encouragement? everytime we attacked we troubled them big time, and albeit they won, they had 70% possesion at least surely and played in front of us without causing too much trouble. encourage any team in the Pl to do that and they will score sooner or later.

[northbank123]

Remember how fucking awful van Judas was there during his golden season in 2011/12? Complete isolated, just like Giroud today.

As somebody pointed out on that thread, the Scum are so naive when it comes to defensive line and we always look like catching them out for being too high. Le Slug up front on his own for 90 minutes isn't exactly going to trouble that.

[armchair]

I dont actually mind that we set up to sit back, concede possesion, and hit em on the break. Dont mind at all. It worked at City and we were all delighted at the change of tactics because in the past Wenger has been rightly criticised for only playing one way and having no plan B

Well today seemed to be the opposite. We sat back and conceded possession but when we did get the ball we couldnt keep it and kept giving it straight back to them. Yes Caz and Rambo were poor but agai its down to Wenger to recognise these problems and take steps to change them. Instead he waited until the 66th min to make a change. Like so eone has said too little, too late.

its a complete different story setting up like that against a quality side with worldy players like city, and against a oh so average spurs team. set up like that away against teams who are better than us fine, but not teams we should attack and get at cos their not very good.

why give them the encouragement? everytime we attacked we troubled them big time, and albeit they won, they had 70% possesion at least surely and played in front of us without causing too much trouble. encourage any team in the Pl to do that and they will score sooner or later.

Spurs are not as shit as we love to think. And City are not as good recently as they have been. The point is that Wenger should have recognised it wasnt working and tried to change it much earlier.

[the playing mantis]

I dont actually mind that we set up to sit back, concede possesion, and hit em on the break. Dont mind at all. It worked at City and we were all delighted at the change of tactics because in the past Wenger has been rightly criticised for only playing one way and having no plan B

Well today seemed to be the opposite. We sat back and conceded possession but when we did get the ball we couldnt keep it and kept giving it straight back to them. Yes Caz and Rambo were poor but agai its down to Wenger to recognise these problems and take steps to change them. Instead he waited until the 66th min to make a change. Like so eone has said too little, too late.

its a complete different story setting up like that against a quality side with worldy players like city, and against a oh so average spurs team. set up like that away against teams who are better than us fine, but not teams we should attack and get at cos their not very good.

why give them the encouragement? everytime we attacked we troubled them big time, and albeit they won, they had 70% possesion at least surely and played in front of us without causing too much trouble. encourage any team in the Pl to do that and they will score sooner or later.

Spurs are not as shit as we love to think. And City are not as good recently as they have been. The point is that Wenger should have recognised it wasnt working and tried to change it much earlier.

yes they are. a good team would have scored a hatful against us setting up like that giving thr ball away all game. they shat themselves everytime we attacked. the most of the league is shit though. including us. but we should be comfortably better than them.

[Theoperator]

TYpical example is Giroud, we know hes a good player but was total rubbish today, did not seem interested could not hold the ball up kept losing it.,and worst of all looked LAZY.....Oh Yeah must Wengers fault......Ramsey and Cazorla wernt much better

I think your first two letters here have given your real name away mate

We scraped to half time and should have made changes to the set up, it was fast clear nothing match wise was changing, especially when they scored 6 mins after HT so subs should have come on PDQ either before or straight after the goal. NB123 hit the nail on the head with what should have happened, but it was another 12 minutes after the goal, nearly 70 mins whan just one change occurred, not the 2 as NB123 suggested quite correctly.

Actually should have started with Theo not Danny, crazy...... mans been out for several matches, especially for a usual physical NLD, where Wally often does well in. (And TR7 who also should have been a starter, FFS why not start with the winning Villa starting line....? )

I didnt think Giroud was too bad first half, good touch for the goal, and several good semi defensive touches too. He often looks lazy. With TR7s vision and Wally to run onto Ozil, TR7s and Girouds touches we would have surely been 2 or 3 up before the pressure on us gave a goal or two up.

Cant help but feel that Rambo is carrying an injury, he seems like at least a yard off the pace since really running up to his 3m injury last season, as well as injury this one. He deffo needs a rest IMHO, its wrong to call him shit, just calm a little guys- only DB10 the smaller can do that especially since we didnt see Capt Flamster feature thank goodness.

Incidentally can someone explain why Chuba came on for Coq on 89 mins

So after 6 points 3 wins last season we end with 1, bad bad year, I imagine we wont see many AKBs other than TY on here for a while.

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

do i really need to say anything else about ramsey?

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

While we're on the subject of le Coq, how about getting this started on Sunday...?

To the tune of 'Mrs Robinson'

"And here's to you Francis Co-qui-lan, Arsene loves you more than you will know, whoa oh oh" Repeat...

That works quite well. Good one.



Also agree with others on here that TR7 should start. Always does well vs them and has done really well in general lately. Sanzhez prob out, Ox out. So I would expect the see the exact same team as vs Villa but I would personally play Rosicky over Ramsey, since Ramsey has been the weakest link on the team every game he's started recently.

too bad our fuckwit c*ntbag manager cant see it.

[Wengerballs]

If this was the final round of the season and whoever won this game finished in 4th place, we would have won in a canter.
Reason we lost is because the entire club, squad, mentality, you name it, is calibrated to finish 4th and no more.
As soon as we dip a bit below 4th we raise our game, but as soon as we get into the top four the players stop trying - simple as that. Repeat ad nauseum until the current regime of 'quality mediocrity' is finally gone.

[rodders999]

do i really need to say anything else about ramsey?

Shouldn't be near our starting 11 at the moment. Some players play badly and have absolutely no effect on the game whatsoever as they are totally peripheral to it. When Ramsey plays badly he has a massive impact on a game because he is constantly losing possession in vital areas which kills our attacks and starts the oppositions. Needs to be dropped ASAP.

[rodders999]

Kos's "defending" for the winner has me totally fucking pissed off too. Kane is the only target in the box, Kos has him, then for some inexplicable reason lets him run off him and before he realises it he's lost him and it's too fucking late to do anything about it. That's rank rotten defending right there. Another goal conceded that was completely avoidable if we had any modicum of fucking defensive nous about us.

Fuck off

[StuartL]

It's that *word censored* in charge again. Let's the fucking game drift for too long instead of doing something. But, so fucking what? Who cares any more, he's not going anywhere.

When the camera panned to our bench we had Wenker, Bould and Vik Akers all sat motionless with arms foulded
Pochettino,by contrast, was off the bench instructing players and cajoling them.

By the way does anybody know what tacticall insight is likely to be provided by the kit man (vik) or Paul Johnson who used to run the travel club? So why the hell are they there ?

A little pissed off, but was expecting the defeat, so not surprised. No doubt Theo will get wheeled out to say how we will improve, how we have learned from it and how we will fight for the rest of the season.