THE MEDIA: Ex-Arsenal Players, Pundits and Journalists

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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THE MEDIA: Ex-Arsenal Players, Pundits and Journalists

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officepest wrote:Keown on radio:

"I'm 100% behind Arsene".

"He needs to be given time".

:suicide: :suicide: :suicide:
Keown knows which side his bread is buttered. I have hardly got my ear to the ground when it comes to goings on at the club but even I know that Keown gets a lot of cushy corporate access etc.

How uncomfortable was Henry when Souness had to bully him into telling that Barcelona anecdote? I think he'd rather chomp down on his cyanide tablet then direct some criticism at Wenger.

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officepest wrote:Keown on radio:

"I'm 100% behind Arsene".

"He needs to be given time".

:suicide: :suicide: :suicide:
I agree, this modern football practice of sacking a manager when things aren't going well needs stopped. give him another few years to settle in I reckon

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northbank123 wrote:
officepest wrote:Keown on radio:

"I'm 100% behind Arsene".

"He needs to be given time".

:suicide: :suicide: :suicide:
Keown knows which side his bread is buttered. I have hardly got my ear to the ground when it comes to goings on at the club but even I know that Keown gets a lot of cushy corporate access etc.

How uncomfortable was Henry when Souness had to bully him into telling that Barcelona anecdote? I think he'd rather chomp down on his cyanide tablet then direct some criticism at Wenger.
Add to that lot this little gem:

"There's nobody I'd rather have at the club right now". - after hearing Wenger post-match. I think I'll stop listening to him from now on; he spouts too much shit.

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officepest wrote:Keown on radio:

"I'm 100% behind Arsene".

"He needs to be given time".

:suicide: :suicide: :suicide:
What a stupid prick. All these ex-players showing blind loyalty to their old leader are like those SS officers who still loved Hitler 40 years after the war. It's an utter cult, brainwashed zombies unable to see the glaring faults in their leader.

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Henry Winter in the Telegraph, telling it as it is :
Pathetic. Shambolic. Naïve. Arsenal departed to a flurry of boos after a deserved defeat to a Monaco side that were superior in every department. So it’s Monte Carlo and probably bust for Arsenal. So it really now could be the beginning of the end for Arsene Wenger at Arsenal after his old team inflicted this grievous blow.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -side.html

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officepest wrote:
northbank123 wrote:
officepest wrote:Keown on radio:

"I'm 100% behind Arsene".

"He needs to be given time".

:suicide: :suicide: :suicide:
Keown knows which side his bread is buttered. I have hardly got my ear to the ground when it comes to goings on at the club but even I know that Keown gets a lot of cushy corporate access etc.

How uncomfortable was Henry when Souness had to bully him into telling that Barcelona anecdote? I think he'd rather chomp down on his cyanide tablet then direct some criticism at Wenger.
Add to that lot this little gem:

"There's nobody I'd rather have at the club right now". - after hearing Wenger post-match. I think I'll stop listening to him from now on; he spouts too much shit.

Honestly - listen to Sounness, it's the best tonic. The bloke cuts right to the heart of the issues, doesn't get dragged into populist nonsense and is genuinely passionate and forthright in his views. Last few times I've seen him cover Arsenal he has hit the nail on the head with just about every word. He embarrassed Henry and Redknapp today and made them look like the vapid dallying fools that they are.

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clockender1 wrote:Henry Winter in the Telegraph, telling it as it is :
Pathetic. Shambolic. Naïve. Arsenal departed to a flurry of boos after a deserved defeat to a Monaco side that were superior in every department. So it’s Monte Carlo and probably bust for Arsenal. So it really now could be the beginning of the end for Arsene Wenger at Arsenal after his old team inflicted this grievous blow.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -side.html
They say that now but mention it next week and they all revert to Wenger lovers again.

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Keown and Henry etc will not criticise Wenger to any great extent because they had amazing success with him.
The Wenger they know in their minds is the Wenger of 2004, and always will be.
Henry works with the club now.
It is not realistic to expect them to criticise him and that is that.
They are winners and went to the front line for the greatest season in the club's history, they did their bit more than any of us have done.

But Souness can tell it how it is now, in 2015, and has been heading since summer 2008.

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QuartzGooner wrote:Keown and Henry etc will not criticise Wenger to any great extent because they had amazing success with him.
The Wenger they know is the Wenger of 2004, and always will be.
It is not realistic to expect them to criticise him and that is that.

But Souness can tell it how it is.
Then they shouldn't waste everyone's time by being allowed to report on Arsenal games.

What's the point of being a pundit if you're not going to speak your mind? :? - waste of time and money and not fair on those of us who pay our tv licence and subscription fees.

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Bunting14 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:Henry Winter in the Telegraph, telling it as it is :
Pathetic. Shambolic. Naïve. Arsenal departed to a flurry of boos after a deserved defeat to a Monaco side that were superior in every department. So it’s Monte Carlo and probably bust for Arsenal. So it really now could be the beginning of the end for Arsene Wenger at Arsenal after his old team inflicted this grievous blow.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -side.html
They say that now but mention it next week and they all revert to Wenger lovers again.
Absolutely buddy....beat Everton and edge towards the 3rd place trophy wet dream and he'll be labelling those supporters who headed for the early exit door as ungrateful morons who don't know they're born.

The other thing I will enjoy reading on these pages and others like it is how this latest fuck up will be a watershed moment or the latest turning point / beginning of the end for Wenger. Losing 8-2 and being 17th in the league, losing to Bradford and Blackburn, throwing away a 4 goal lead at Newcastle, shipping 6 at Chavski or 5 at Anfield. Oh no.....none of them mattered. It's the 1-3 defeat to Monaco having already earned 25m from the Group stage that will finally make Kroenke pay out 20m to get shot of his money making machine. What a laugh

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g88ner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Keown and Henry etc will not criticise Wenger to any great extent because they had amazing success with him.
The Wenger they know is the Wenger of 2004, and always will be.
It is not realistic to expect them to criticise him and that is that.

But Souness can tell it how it is.
Then they shouldn't waste everyone's time by being allowed to report on Arsenal games.

What's the point of being a pundit if you're not going to speak your mind? :? - waste of time and money and not fair on those of us who pay our tv licence and subscription fees.
Because they actually played for Arsenal in hundreds of games.
I am happy with the mix of one ex Arsenal player and one non-Arsenal ex player, it provides insight into the club and personalities yet also allows for criticism.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
g88ner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Keown and Henry etc will not criticise Wenger to any great extent because they had amazing success with him.
The Wenger they know is the Wenger of 2004, and always will be.
It is not realistic to expect them to criticise him and that is that.

But Souness can tell it how it is.
Then they shouldn't waste everyone's time by being allowed to report on Arsenal games.

What's the point of being a pundit if you're not going to speak your mind? :? - waste of time and money and not fair on those of us who pay our tv licence and subscription fees.
Because they actually played for Arsenal in hundreds of games.
I am happy with the mix of one ex Arsenal player and one non-Arsenal ex player, it provides insight into the club and personalities yet also allows for criticism.
But if it breeds fear of telling the truth then they're not doing their job properly.

The only incite I want from paid experts is expert knowledge and insight. It baffles me that that appears to be optional for such a well paid job.

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Dan_85 wrote:
safcftm wrote:Very bad day at the office but I still think you've got a decent chance, you certainly created a fair bit. Get an early goal (preferably Giroud will find his shooting boots) and they will get nervous. The third goal was a bastard like but i think you're still very much in it
They've conceded 2 goals in their last 7 CL matches mate. We haven't a hope in hell of scoring 3 *AND* keeping a clean sheet. It's done. Over. Coach of the decade strikes again.
Surely it's time for the FFP card or Winter Break card to be played now !

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QuartzGooner wrote:
g88ner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Keown and Henry etc will not criticise Wenger to any great extent because they had amazing success with him.
The Wenger they know is the Wenger of 2004, and always will be.
It is not realistic to expect them to criticise him and that is that.

But Souness can tell it how it is.
Then they shouldn't waste everyone's time by being allowed to report on Arsenal games.

What's the point of being a pundit if you're not going to speak your mind? :? - waste of time and money and not fair on those of us who pay our tv licence and subscription fees.
Because they actually played for Arsenal in hundreds of games.
I am happy with the mix of one ex Arsenal player and one non-Arsenal ex player, it provides insight into the club and personalities yet also allows for criticism.
Henry Keown Dixon Parlour Winterburn will never say what needs to be said.Wenger must go.Gary Neville is the best pundit because he is not afriad to slag off Utd.Its a waste of time Sky having ex Wenger players as pundits they are afraid to have a go at him

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g88ner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
g88ner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Keown and Henry etc will not criticise Wenger to any great extent because they had amazing success with him.
The Wenger they know is the Wenger of 2004, and always will be.
It is not realistic to expect them to criticise him and that is that.

But Souness can tell it how it is.
Then they shouldn't waste everyone's time by being allowed to report on Arsenal games.

What's the point of being a pundit if you're not going to speak your mind? :? - waste of time and money and not fair on those of us who pay our tv licence and subscription fees.
Because they actually played for Arsenal in hundreds of games.
I am happy with the mix of one ex Arsenal player and one non-Arsenal ex player, it provides insight into the club and personalities yet also allows for criticism.

But if it breeds fear of telling the truth then they're not doing their job properly.

The only incite I want from paid experts is expert knowledge and insight. It baffles me that that appears to be optional for such a well paid job.
I would argue that their job, when commentating or analyzing Arsenal, is to provide insight into Wenger's management style and the players at Arsenal.
It is for someone else to criticise Wenger.

Gary Neville is in a different position as Ferguson has left Man Utd.

Our ex Invincibles and 1998 title winners etc stood alongside Wenger as we battled Ferguson and Man Utd.
They were part of a team, forged lifelong bonds and are not going to turn on a team mate.
That is how they see it and it is not a secret, it is public knowledge.

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