THE INVINCIBLES DOCUMENTARY

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How can any Gooner not enjoy that, even after tonight's result?

The Champions League is a cup competition which would be great to win but ultimately its the league title that matters. To win it undefeated is astounding. Think of the great Liverpool teams, the united teams under ferguson never, ever went undefeated in a league winning season. To match that in Europe we'd have to win the champions league 3 years in a row, and in the current format that will never happen..unless we do it.

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flash gunner wrote:This is suicide TV after tonight's shambles isn't it? :suicide:
Just looking at them in a line celebrating at tinpot lane, all 6foot football machines

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IW8Goalmachine wrote:
Just looking at them in a line celebrating at tinpot lane, all 6foot football machines
Good point.

Not that all players have to be tall or powerhouses, but one thing occured to me on Monday night in the same room as

Keown, Campbell, Lehmann, Lauren, Pires, Parlour, Paul Davis and Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain, and Pat Rice.

Keown, Campbell and Lehmann all over six foot and well built, Parlour about 5ft 11 but powerfully built, is bigger in person than might appear on TV, Pires about six foot.

DB10Gooner has pointed out that height alone is little indication of anything on a football pitch (well he would say that, wouldn't he :D ) but their physical presence was notable.

By contrast Oxlade-Chamberlain has less of it even though he is quite stocky, and Paul Davis is slender though was a great player in my view.

But imagine how an opposition player would feel when he saw that Invincibles team line up in the tunnel, also with Bergkamp, Vieira, Henry and Gilberto?

Against some teams we would have had half the battle won prior to kick off.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
But imagine how an opposition player woulld feel when he saw that Invincibles team line up in the tunnel, as well with Bergkamp, Vieira, Henry and Gilberto?

Against some teams we would have had half the battle won prior to kick off.
That is almost a direct quote verbatim that some player said about The Invincibles but I forgot who - I almost think it was Gary Neville.

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May get some flack for saying so but I always felt The Invincibles underachieved. Don't get me wrong it is an incredible feat, but aside from the fact the we bottled the Treble, I also think the 12 draws were a bit much. But fuck it, still the greatest team I've ever seen! :barscarf:

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VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:May get some flack for saying so but I always felt The Invincibles underachieved. Don't get me wrong it is an incredible feat, but aside from the fact the we bottled the Treble, I also think the 12 draws were a bit much. But fuck it, still the greatest team I've ever seen! :barscarf:
I seem to recall a certain Mr Ferguson saying that we weren't deserved champions that season because we drew too many games. Incidentally his darling treble winners drew 13 in the league.

I've recorded the show, I couldn't bring myself to watch it last night.

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Thanks vvv. I dont have sky but really wanted to see this as i am very much in need of cheering up this morning. Guess i am not the only one. Maybe you could forward it to Arsene to show him what a real football team looks like. Thanks again pal .

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Dan_85 wrote:Props to anyone sitting through that documentary after that pile of garbage served up tonight. Not me, i'd wanna slit my wrists.

Incidentally, I wonder just how long we can dine out on the achievements of the Invincibles for, whilst simultaneously achieving fuck all?
I felt that way so decided I would record and watch it another time .... then having not moved when it began I decided I would watch to the first advert break ... then ended up watching it all :roll:

I really enjoyed it but it has an element of sadness about it too. It's a different world and lost world. Those players, the intense rivalries, the passion and most of all the backdrop of Highbury.

Also watching that last night you can almost see (admittedly with hindsight) the monster that Wenger became being created. There is a lot made of him predicting we would go unbeaten before it happened. i.e. the man who was crazy to think the impossible was possible ... and then he was proved right. People becoming so in awe of Wenger is why his ego got so out of control. We all know that he lives off of this period even now and we suffer more and more every year because of that.

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QuartzGooner wrote:On in a minute.
What raised my eyebrow was Lehmann saying how Wenger and Ferguson got into it in the tunnel after the Old Trafford game, he did not go into too much detail but it could be there were pushes, shoves, possibly a punch?
Keown asking (and being allowed) to do the half time team talk when we were trailing 2-1 at home to Liverpool on the Good Friday was pretty surprising too I thought.

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I know most of us knew it already but.....Jens Lehmann,as mad as a box of frogs....

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Thought it was interesting when Wenger said that they used to not even pay attention to the opposition. That the team could just go out and play football and it would be enough....

Good to see he's changed his thinking! :roll: :banghead:

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Couldn't watch it, I recorded it but still don't feel like having the depths we have fallen to thrust in my face.

I might watch it in May.

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robbo10 wrote:I know most of us knew it already but.....Jens Lehmann,as mad as a box of frogs....
Loved his reaction to the achievement. I won't spoil it if you haven't seen it!

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I can't watch anything from Wenger's golden era because it reminds me of how far we've fallen. I can watch back all the videos from the George Graham era. Maybe when (if) Wenger goes, I'll be able to watch it all again. Right now, the Invincibles seems to be more of a millstone rather than a milestone, since it was that one freakishly brilliant season that has given Wenger carte blanche to continue as manager indefinitely. And shouldn't they have won more trophies? Personally, I prefer the 2001-02 Double Winners.

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