Monaco (A)

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Dan_85 wrote:
piresistible wrote: it was a horrible night and it seems to have equally hurt the rest of the fan base.
I'm not sure about that, have a look on Twitter. Most of our idiotic fanbase seem to have totally forgotten it and are adamant that we'll go through comfortably. :roll: 3 goals without reply against a team that conceded 3 in their last 7 CL games? Yeah, that seems likely. Think there's gonna be a lot of people coming down to earth with a bump in about 10 hours time...

Thing is Dan - those AKB fans are all away in La La Land - and so even if we get raped big time tonight - They will then refer to the fact we are through to the FA Semi-finals....They refuse to see the light - or should that be The Dark ! ????? :?

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piresistible wrote:I just hope that we go through, because I have had enough of this heroic losing nonsense; there is no heroic loss against Monaco. If we go out and beat them 0-2, so what? It's not like we beat the team that's going to go on and win the tournament, again no offence intended. The loss against Monaco hit me harder than even the 0-6 thrashing away to Chelsea last season; it was a horrible night and it seems to have equally hurt the rest of the fan base. No, I didn't expect to beat Monaco easily at all, there defensive record speaks for itself, but I did expect it to be a close two legged affair, with maybe one goal in the difference, I certainly didn't expect either team to be virtually out of the competition after the first leg.

I had high hopes for this seasons European campaign, not necessarily that they would win it, but that we would put in a good showing. I can accept losing to a better team, but I just don't accept what happened three weeks ago, it wasn't good enough. It's time for the players to stand up now and give the fans the result they deserve.

Our away fans have been excellent again this season, (the fact that Spurs couldn't sell there allocation on a Sunday afternoon and we managed to bring 9,000 on a Monday night to Old Trafford, speaks volumes), and they will all be out there again tomorrow night hoping we go through. The way I see it, we are out of the competition and we need to score at least 3 goals to qualify. I think that's the way the players should look at it.

I really think that there is a good chance we could beat Monaco 3-0, think about it; forget the first leg ever happened, if we were playing them tomorrow in that first leg and won 3-0, would many people be that surprised? No I don't think so. Let's just go out there and get the result that I think we're more than capable of getting. After all, wouldn't that also be the most Arsenal thing ever?
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I wonder?

If one was to 'cut and paste' an article about plagiarism and not cite the source - would that be akin to the Monty Python sketch - where someone impersonating a police officer arrests another person for also impersonating an officer of the law, whilst arresting someone who is also impersoanting an officer of the law?

:? :mrgreen:

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I'm waiting for our resident gambler DB10 to reveal what bet he's having cos clearly after Saturday he's on a roll!

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We will win on the night but won't win the tie. Go for 2-1 to Arsenal.

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The latest load of bollocks from Clueless in the pre-match press meet:

"We have experience, the desire and belief we can do it," said Wenger.

FFs how many more times must we endure the terms 'Desire' and 'Belief' ??? :roll: :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

"We want to give everything to have the greatest performance on the pitch."

So where else would we perform? Other than Giroud in the bedroom ! FFS he IS Clueless and deluded. :cussing: :banghead: :cussing:

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Plucky little Arsenal will draw on all the mental strength that they are renowned throughout the world for and turn in a fantastic, battling ,performance and beat the financially doped, footballing powerhouses from the evil principality of Monaco.
Unfortunately it won't be quite enough, and we will fall just short of overcoming the odds and qualifying....but we will walk away with our heads held high and a heart warming story of the underdogs beating one of footballs giants in their own back yard.

A moral victory....2-0 to The Arsenal :barscarf:

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OneBardGooner wrote:The latest load of bollocks from Clueless in the pre-match press meet:

"We have experience, the desire and belief we can do it," said Wenger.

FFs how many more times must we endure the terms 'Desire' and 'Belief' ??? :roll: :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

"We want to give everything to have the greatest performance on the pitch."

So where else would we perform? Other than Giroud in the bedroom ! FFS he IS Clueless and deluded. :cussing: :banghead: :cussing:
yeah so where was all that in the first leg then????

we have about as much hope of qualifying tonight as winning the league in other words NONE

best we can hope for is another meaningless victory and no injuries

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If I was a betting man I would probably go with a 2-0 victory but if I'm honest I wouldn't be at all surprised if we sneaked a 3-0 win - we have a confidence based team and right now the gods seem to be shining on us so if we get an early goal, qualifying wouldn't be such a long shot.

If giroud scores early tonight then he will go on to have a stormer, but if he misses the 1st chance......... :roll:

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OneBardGooner wrote: FFs how many more times must we endure the terms 'Desire' and 'Belief' ??? :roll: :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
At least he didn't say 'Quality' - that's his other favourite word.

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I understand that footie is a sport based on hope and all fans suffer from false hopes etc...fair enough.
What I do not understand though, is how any rational human being could expect us to qualify tonight. You've all seen how Monaco defend, you've all seen how Arsenal "defend" in Europe. Arsenal, who are usually so open and gung-ho are going to have to be even More gung-ho than usual! :shock:
Now don't get me wrong, this tie is far from impossible. A sensible approach would be: keep your shape, keep it tight and get a goal before half-time. If you go in 1-0 up at HT you then just need a couple more. You could then look to score before the 80th minute...leaving you 10 minutes plus stoppage time to find the winner. Monaco are rock solid but it's tactically doable.
The issue here is though, who manages us. He's basically, a retard. We have conclusive evidence that he simply does not learn from his glaring mistakes.
Remember a few years back when we had Dortmund at home in the group stage? The scores were 1-1 and we just needed to hold on for the draw to win the group..what happened? Bomb forward, get hit, game done. I won't need to remind you all of Anderlecht etc. It is especially in Europe where tactical know-how is essential and sadly, Wenger has nothing on that front. That is why despite having had some of the finest players Europe has seen in the past 20 years, he has never stood a chance of winning this competition - and never will.

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Chippy wrote:
piresistible wrote:I just hope that we go through, because I have had enough of this heroic losing nonsense; there is no heroic loss against Monaco. If we go out and beat them 0-2, so what? It's not like we beat the team that's going to go on and win the tournament, again no offence intended. The loss against Monaco hit me harder than even the 0-6 thrashing away to Chelsea last season; it was a horrible night and it seems to have equally hurt the rest of the fan base. No, I didn't expect to beat Monaco easily at all, there defensive record speaks for itself, but I did expect it to be a close two legged affair, with maybe one goal in the difference, I certainly didn't expect either team to be virtually out of the competition after the first leg.

I had high hopes for this seasons European campaign, not necessarily that they would win it, but that we would put in a good showing. I can accept losing to a better team, but I just don't accept what happened three weeks ago, it wasn't good enough. It's time for the players to stand up now and give the fans the result they deserve.

Our away fans have been excellent again this season, (the fact that Spurs couldn't sell there allocation on a Sunday afternoon and we managed to bring 9,000 on a Monday night to Old Trafford, speaks volumes), and they will all be out there again tomorrow night hoping we go through. The way I see it, we are out of the competition and we need to score at least 3 goals to qualify. I think that's the way the players should look at it.

I really think that there is a good chance we could beat Monaco 3-0, think about it; forget the first leg ever happened, if we were playing them tomorrow in that first leg and won 3-0, would many people be that surprised? No I don't think so. Let's just go out there and get the result that I think we're more than capable of getting. After all, wouldn't that also be the most Arsenal thing ever?
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Ikechukwu1 wrote:I understand that footie is a sport based on hope and all fans suffer from false hopes etc...fair enough.
What I do not understand though, is how any rational human being could expect us to qualify tonight. You've all seen how Monaco defend, you've all seen how Arsenal "defend" in Europe. Arsenal, who are usually so open and gung-ho are going to have to be even More gung-ho than usual! :shock:
Now don't get me wrong, this tie is far from impossible. A sensible approach would be: keep your shape, keep it tight and get a goal before half-time. If you go in 1-0 up at HT you then just need a couple more. You could then look to score before the 80th minute...leaving you 10 minutes plus stoppage time to find the winner. Monaco are rock solid but it's tactically doable.
The issue here is though, who manages us. He's basically, a retard. We have conclusive evidence that he simply does not learn from his glaring mistakes.
Remember a few years back when we had Dortmund at home in the group stage? The scores were 1-1 and we just needed to hold on for the draw to win the group..what happened? Bomb forward, get hit, game done. I won't need to remind you all of Anderlecht etc. It is especially in Europe where tactical know-how is essential and sadly, Wenger has nothing on that front. That is why despite having had some of the finest players Europe has seen in the past 20 years, he has never stood a chance of winning this competition - and never will.


I have seen how they defend......the reality is that if we had a genuine quality striker (as opposed to giroud) then we would have got 4 or 5 goals in the first leg :roll: Of course le cock got tactically raped (again) and allowed his team to lose all shape and they picked us off at will on the break - no-one suggested for a minute that they don't know how to use a tactical plan (as was proven in the first leg :oops: ), but I still believe that they are being talked up above the reality of their level and that is down to our ineptitude as much as anything else :roll: Let me put it to you this way.....if we went into this tie tonight with any one of klopp/ancelotti/someone/pep in charge, would you be writing off our chances of qualifying ? I would suggest that the answer to that question would be no, so if we are to believe that we cant go through, then please don't suggest that it is a lack of quality that will screw us

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what everyone has failed to point out is that Wenger really want us to qualify?

his job is to make sure that we qualify for this round and then finish in the top 4 so that we can do it all over again.
QFs of the CL gets in the way of the main aim which is the top 4 trophy.

just like the club never has any real ambition of winning the league it certainly doesnt have any ambition of winning this competition, especially now they know they can shut the fanbase up by winning the FA Cup.

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Why do so many fans lose their marbles when predicting Arsenal to win in Europe.We were out the moment the 3rd goal went in. In three weeks since we got our arses spanked by Monaco we are now Bayern Munich.Wenger is the most tactically inept manager when it comes to knockout games in Europe thats why we get knocked out at the first knockout stage of the CL every fucking year :banghead: :banghead:

Wenger should be strung up with his record in the CL :heads:

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