THE WENGER THREAD

[Nuggets]

The sad thing is the we love Wongerites will come out of the woodwork creaming themselves if we win the FA and come second, they seem to have been brainwashed like the arrogant one into thinking qualify for lots of wonga in the CL and the odd cup will suffice. Really hope he fooks off and we get Klopp, can't see it happening but my God it would be nice.

[mcdowell42]

Now now. Haven't you heard about this incredible win streak we are on? A few years from now you can regale your grandchildren with epic tales "I was at Turf Moor when Arsene won the consecutive win streak virtual trophy". If you add that to the calendar year trophy, and the automatic CL qualification trophy too (massive upgrade on 4th!) then I make that as Wenger massively overachieving this season! Might go down as his greatest ever achievement this streak and automatic CL qualif trophy

Errrr just don't mention that Cesc Fabregas chap winning the Ruskis the league yesterday, don't mention that there is every possibility that he may make the club look like total retards in a couple of weeks from now..and of course, be sure not to mention that centre-back we shoulda signed in summer when "nobody was available" (easier to sign players in Jan you see), or that holding midfielder we needed...oh bugger, I forget that Coquelin was always a central part of Arsene's grand plan! That's what he usually does with key players, ships them off to Charlton

Also don't mention he spent £17m on a joke United reject who earns £100k a week but can't outscore Chris fucking Smalling. Just let that sink in (but his game isn't about goals! )

I see the Wengerites doing their best to airbrush history with this "run". Fuck the run it's the usual shite Wenger pulls when there's no pressure to win. Why doesn't he ever pull off these runs over the Xmas period?

This season will be remembered for the shocking transfer window that handicapped us, and gift-wrapping Jose the league title. Not signing Cesc is one thing, but then you have to make amends by signing a top of the range midfielder and striker. Instead we got Welbeck

Hang on, you talk of other people airbrushing history, yet when talking about summer signings you focus on Welbeck and completely ignore the fact we signed Alexis Sanchez from Barcelona.

That was a fantastic signing and whereas you only have eyes for Welbeck, Alexis has bagged 20 so far. Surprised you forgot about him.

I notice there has been no reply to your point Gooner.

[officepest]

If Arsenal win the FA cup and finish 2nd in the league there isn't one Arsenal fan that could complain or at least should not after the start We had especially with injuries again. I know United fans will go on about their own poor start but bearing in mind they spent over 145 million on players and that doesn't even include Falcao who is costing them over half a million a WEEK all in they would have expected a top 4 place at the very least, outside of that and they lose 25 percent of their sponsorship income for failing to reach the CL again and that in turn would have probably meant a 3rd manager to start the new season 3 years running so I'd suppose they have done well with that pressure. Man.City have under achieved but you can't help but think that both the restrictions placed on them by the FFP and also other teams improvement was just as much to blame. Liverpool and the Spuds have been the real disappointments, Liverpool obviously lost Saurez and that alone is good enough to put them out of the picture and the Spuds appeared to put all of their transfer window eggs into the Schneiderlin basket somehow forgetting that United, Liverpool and Arsenal had already pilfered most of their players. With all of that is it any wonder that Chelsea stole a march especially with the easiest opening fixtures which Mourinho himself probably couldn't have hand picked better, hardly any major injury concerns and being clever in the transfer market again.

Copy and pasted from here; http://arsenalwildinnocent.blogspot.ie/ ... 9015740911

You've been warned numerous times about copy and pasting stuff from other sites and not crediting them. One week ban. Next time it's permanent.

I was just about to post that it was probably lifted verbatim from someone else's article, but you beat me to it.

[defleppardisking]

The only way we can get Klopp is if we have ambitious board. Not going to happen. Not a chance in hell.

[markyp]

The only way we can get Klopp is if we have ambitious board. Not going to happen. Not a chance in hell.

id prefer his brother Klippety

[Chippy]

Thought somebody might have posted this before. If so sorry. We've changed our tactical approach. Nowhere does it say AW did anything.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... e-paid-off

[LaughingGooner]

The kloop live in was so predictable.
Can only imagine the outcry if wenger gad spent much of the season in the bottom half of the league as Dortmund have endured.
Wengers going nowhere. Do you think he's going to walk away now he's finally got some money to spend!?!?!!?

[officepest]

The kloop live in was so predictable.
Can only imagine the outcry if wenger gad spent much of the season in the bottom half of the league as Dortmund have endured.
Wengers going nowhere. Do you think he's going to walk away now he's finally got some money to spend!?!?!!?

What the fuck is a "Kloop live in"?

You fail to mention that he won two Bundesliga titles, the German Cup and got to a European Cup final in his seven years there. Yeah, let's just bitch him out for having one dodgy season.

[Ikechukwu1]

Now now. Haven't you heard about this incredible win streak we are on? A few years from now you can regale your grandchildren with epic tales "I was at Turf Moor when Arsene won the consecutive win streak virtual trophy". If you add that to the calendar year trophy, and the automatic CL qualification trophy too (massive upgrade on 4th!) then I make that as Wenger massively overachieving this season! Might go down as his greatest ever achievement this streak and automatic CL qualif trophy

Errrr just don't mention that Cesc Fabregas chap winning the Ruskis the league yesterday, don't mention that there is every possibility that he may make the club look like total retards in a couple of weeks from now..and of course, be sure not to mention that centre-back we shoulda signed in summer when "nobody was available" (easier to sign players in Jan you see), or that holding midfielder we needed...oh bugger, I forget that Coquelin was always a central part of Arsene's grand plan! That's what he usually does with key players, ships them off to Charlton

Also don't mention he spent £17m on a joke United reject who earns £100k a week but can't outscore Chris fucking Smalling. Just let that sink in (but his game isn't about goals! )

I see the Wengerites doing their best to airbrush history with this "run". Fuck the run it's the usual shite Wenger pulls when there's no pressure to win. Why doesn't he ever pull off these runs over the Xmas period?

This season will be remembered for the shocking transfer window that handicapped us, and gift-wrapping Jose the league title. Not signing Cesc is one thing, but then you have to make amends by signing a top of the range midfielder and striker. Instead we got Welbeck :

Hang on, you talk of other people airbrushing history, yet when talking about summer signings you focus on Welbeck and completely ignore the fact we signed Alexis Sanchez from Barcelona.

That was a fantastic signing and whereas you only have eyes for Welbeck, Alexis has bagged 20 so far. Surprised you forgot about him.

Yes Sanchez at £35m was a fantastic signing. I mean, not rocket science when he's available and your only competition is the Scousers but yep terrific player. Was he sufficient in context of our entire season? Has he been enough to be the difference in the big games? And stop conceding sloppy goals? Nope, he wasn't.
The defender wasn't signed, nor was the DCM.
So the point stands: the transfer window was a disaster, and playing Monreal at CB, and watching Montero rape Chambers at Swansea are tiny examples, although Welbeck scoring no more league goals than Smalling is an effin disgrace. Still, this season has been a mediocre one. "Progression"? Lol. Finishing ahead of Citeh keeps being mentioned (but I though you couldn't compete with oil money? ) But. We finished about 15 pts ahead of Yernited last year, they may finish ahead of us this. We were about 2 pts behind Chelski last year, they'll finish about 10-12 ahead of us this season. And actually you know, win the league. Eliminated from CL by financially doped Monaco.
Nope, not buying into the myth, been "progressing" for a decade without challenging for a bloody title

[Ikechukwu1]

The kloop live in was so predictable.
Can only imagine the outcry if wenger gad spent much of the season in the bottom half of the league as Dortmund have endured.
Wengers going nowhere. Do you think he's going to walk away now he's finally got some money to spend!?!?!!?

What the fuck is a "Kloop live in"?

You fail to mention that he won two Bundesliga titles, the German Cup and got to a European Cup final in his seven years there. Yeah, let's just bitch him out for having one dodgy season.

All achieved with a wage bill half out current one. Yeah God imagine all the things Arsene is gonna so with all that new dosh! He might blow it all on another Welbeck, pay Wilshere and Theo Galactico wages, offer Diaby a new deal and neglect to sign the DCM we still needed a year ago, and the class striker and keeper we've needed for years too

I mean he's really pulling up trees this season with all that "new" (LOL) money. That virtual "win streak" trophy is some achievement

[g88ner]

Now now. Haven't you heard about this incredible win streak we are on? A few years from now you can regale your grandchildren with epic tales "I was at Turf Moor when Arsene won the consecutive win streak virtual trophy". If you add that to the calendar year trophy, and the automatic CL qualification trophy too (massive upgrade on 4th!) then I make that as Wenger massively overachieving this season! Might go down as his greatest ever achievement this streak and automatic CL qualif trophy

Errrr just don't mention that Cesc Fabregas chap winning the Ruskis the league yesterday, don't mention that there is every possibility that he may make the club look like total retards in a couple of weeks from now..and of course, be sure not to mention that centre-back we shoulda signed in summer when "nobody was available" (easier to sign players in Jan you see), or that holding midfielder we needed...oh bugger, I forget that Coquelin was always a central part of Arsene's grand plan! That's what he usually does with key players, ships them off to Charlton

Also don't mention he spent £17m on a joke United reject who earns £100k a week but can't outscore Chris fucking Smalling. Just let that sink in (but his game isn't about goals! )

I see the Wengerites doing their best to airbrush history with this "run". Fuck the run it's the usual shite Wenger pulls when there's no pressure to win. Why doesn't he ever pull off these runs over the Xmas period?

This season will be remembered for the shocking transfer window that handicapped us, and gift-wrapping Jose the league title. Not signing Cesc is one thing, but then you have to make amends by signing a top of the range midfielder and striker. Instead we got Welbeck :

Hang on, you talk of other people airbrushing history, yet when talking about summer signings you focus on Welbeck and completely ignore the fact we signed Alexis Sanchez from Barcelona.

That was a fantastic signing and whereas you only have eyes for Welbeck, Alexis has bagged 20 so far. Surprised you forgot about him.

Yes Sanchez at £35m was a fantastic signing. I mean, not rocket science when he's available and your only competition is the Scousers but yep terrific player. Was he sufficient in context of our entire season? Has he been enough to be the difference in the big games? And stop conceding sloppy goals? Nope, he wasn't.
The defender wasn't signed, nor was the DCM.
So the point stands: the transfer window was a disaster, and playing Monreal at CB, and watching Montero rape Chambers at Swansea are tiny examples, although Welbeck scoring no more league goals than Smalling is an effin disgrace. Still, this season has been a mediocre one. "Progression"? Lol. Finishing ahead of Citeh keeps being mentioned (but I though you couldn't compete with oil money? ) But. We finished about 15 pts ahead of Yernited last year, they may finish ahead of us this. We were about 2 pts behind Chelski last year, they'll finish about 10-12 ahead of us this season. And actually you know, win the league. Eliminated from CL by financially doped Monaco.
Nope, not buying into the myth, been "progressing" for a decade without challenging for a bloody title

That's fine. You make some valid points. I just thought it odd for you to take time to analyse our summer business yet not find a single word for Alexis Sanchez.... especially after starting your analysis by criticising someone for airbrushing our history.

Anyway, everyone can decide for themselves what counts as progress. If you ask me, winning the FA Cup after 9 years without a trophy is progress. If we follow it up with our first top 2 position in a decade and a 2nd FA Cup in a row then I'd say that counts as progress again.

But each to their own; it's certainly not all rosie in the Arsenal garden. We all know that.

[Swifty]

Klopp?!?!?
A coach that loses his best players and is a one season wonder????

[augie]

Klopp?!?!?
A coach that loses his best players and is a one season wonder????

Laughable - never had you marked as a wum

[SPUDMASHER]

Personally I don't know what the all the fuss is about with Klopp. He's a decent manager but I don't see him as being the great messiah. If you look at his track record it isn't too dissimilar to AW's early years. He assembled a good squad in his early time there that has slowly drifted on to other clubs and he hasn't been able to replace them with equal quality (sound familiar?) He's now almost got his club relegated (based on the principal that a bad team performance is the managers fault) and who is to say that if he stayed at Dortmund he'd wouldn't now be embarking an a ten year trophy less run?
Of course, none of us know what the future would have held for him there as he could equally have gone on to win the league for the next 10 years.

I really don't get what the wankfest is all about

[augie]

Personally I don't know what the all the fuss is about with Klopp. He's a decent manager but I don't see him as being the great messiah. If you look at his track record it isn't too dissimilar to AW's early years. He assembled a good squad in his early time there that has slowly drifted on to other clubs and he hasn't been able to replace them with equal quality (sound familiar?) He's now almost got his club relegated (based on the principal that a bad team performance is the managers fault) and who is to say that if he stayed at Dortmund he'd wouldn't now be embarking an a ten year trophy less run?
Of course, none of us know what the future would have held for him there as he could equally have gone on to win the league for the next 10 years.

I really don't get what the wankfest is all about

Bayern's vast wealth absolutely blows dortmund out of the water - that he was able to stand toe to toe with them and actually be superior than them for two seasons is a magnificent achievement.
He is 10th in the league - doesnt equate to nearly relegating them.
He has continually lost his best players - it was bad enough when he was losing the likes of kagawa to manure, but now he is constantly losing his best players to bayern. With those moves he is not alone seeing his team being hugely weakened, but he is also seeing his big rivals strengthened.
Comparing dortmund to Arsenal makes no sense - resources and prestige of the clubs are not even on the same planet. Wenker's failings (in my opinion) are not that he hasnt been winning trophies, but that he hasnt been making the most of the players at his disposal and that he hasnt been using the resources at his disposal even though we had huge weaknesses. If klopp had a 10 year failed record for those reasons then yes he would be as bad as le cock