GAYS IN FOOTBALL

Wayno · Post by **Wayno** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:27 pm

gus ceasar is a legend wrote:I'm gay!

I think we knew that, your smelly poo knob gave it away

Post by **REB** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:31 pm

i think gus fancied 2smooth

gus ceasar is a legend · Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:33 pm

Wayno wrote:
gus ceasar is a legend wrote:I'm gay!

I think we knew that, your smelly poo knob gave it away

You been sniffing it?

gus ceasar is a legend · Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:33 pm

rebel gooner wrote:i think gus fancied 2smooth

Cheers for blowing my cover mate!

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:34 pm

My opinion.

Two attractive women having sex is totally erotic.

Two men having sex is totally disgusting.

One of my male friends is gay. Nice bloke. But I can't understand it at all.

Women are beautiful. Men are not.

Cus Geezer · Post by **Cus Geezer** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:40 pm

I don't find it surprising that no footballers do come out as gay. As one in ten are supposed to be gay, I'd call it a certainty one is and one has played for Arsenal.

It's no surprise that the only one who has ever come out committed suicide and his brother resented him. 40,000 people shouting the worst of obscenities and every other week playing in front of a crowd - 95% of which don't think you're the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You wonder if times have changed, the pink pound, gay football fans and seeing how removed players are from fans whether they'd care so much if they alienate them by coming out.

Someone like Beckham did good by having a positive attitude to being a gay icon. Campbell and Cole could have done themselves and gays a good turn by turning around and saying they couldn't care less if people tink they're gay as gays are not like pedos or chicken molesters.

Plenty good artists, musicians, actors, writers, ancient greeks whose inventions and philosophies under pin western civilization and the man who invented the modern computer - Alan Turing, without whom non of us would be talking to each other - were all gay so quite why Campbell and Cole should be ashamed by misassociation is ridiculous. They should be secure enough in their sexuality to laugh it off, especially with Cheryl Tweedy on your arm.

I've always reasoned that gays should be open and allowed to live as open as straight people, forcing them in the closet is bad for themselves and for society. Such men live as if they're straight and then go cottaging in toilets, so are we better off? A man who lived down my street had a wife and kids and then came out, are we better off having a poor women and kids being dragged into living a sham?

And for the record I don't think Sol or Ashley are gay - they happened to have pissed off fans who in the era of the internet can spread rumours like wildfire. I don't recall either being rumoured to be gay prior to shitting on their former clubs.

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:49 pm

I think Cashley was more upset that he was being accused of cheating on his wife/fiancÃ©e, ironic I know but understandable. Sol does not seem to be a guy who is able to shrug off insults that well

I don't blame them for trying to show they weren't gay, would have been nice for someone accused to go "who cares" but that would probably require a single footballer to be accused first

Cus Geezer · Post by **Cus Geezer** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:59 pm

I don't blame them for trying to show they weren't gay, would have been nice for someone accused to go "who cares" but that would probably require a single footballer to be accused first

I don't think so.

Their fear was entirely down to the homophobia of their peers and their obsession with their own maschismo. It would be easy for them to turn round and say 'ask my fit bird if she thinks I'm gay, look at her compared to the wives of people chanting I'm gay, you should be as gay as me boys you might get some'.

At the risk of sounding un PC maybe it's a black/West Indian thing. You only have to look at the lyrics in some modern reggae tunes and the story about Bob Marley refusing to meet Prince because from his gender-bender style thought he was gay.

I think the best way of handling gay rumours was the way Skinner and Baddiel did on Fantasy Football, send it up for comic effect. But Cole and Campbell probably take themselves a bit too seriously for that to cross their minds.

Limerick Astley · Post by **Limerick Astley** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:18 pm

Some might say
It's wrong to be a gay
But what the hell
If you play well
Then keep dropping your anchor in poo bay

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:58 pm

19 minutes, Limerick!

You are getting slower.

On a bridge, sat the bishop of Buckingham,
Licking his fingers, and sucking them,
Whilst watching the stunts,
Of the *word censored* on the punts,
And the tricks of the pricks that were fucking 'em.

Dadah.!

green gooner · Post by **green gooner** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:21 pm

tomkingsbury · Post by **tomkingsbury** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:49 pm

i'm sorry guys, but if we had a gay footballer or two, the away fans would ahve a field day, and depending on the mentality/personality of the player, that could be his undoing for his career. That Moggi ex-Juve chairmen said he didnt want any gays in his football team, and thats in italy so you can see the predicament some young men are in. I think it would be a tremendously brave player to come out in this day and age, which is a sad thing to say when we are all supposed to be pc these days.

on the flip side, if for example it was leaked that jenas, berbatov, ferdinand, gerrard liked a bit of cock, i think we all know that their sexual exploits and preferences would be used against them, constantly. Just like old cashley, and although i have no problems with gay people myself, i dont half like singing that shit at that judas *word censored*.

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:04 am

Can't believe this is actually a debate. Are we really so retarded we don't know that a gay Arsenal player would get as much support as any other Arsenal player?

Cus Geezer wrote:It's no surprise that the only one who has ever come out committed suicide and his brother resented him.

I was at the Arsenal v Wimbledon game that took place immediately after Justin Fashanu came out. To see John Fashanu publicly taking the piss out of his own brother that day because he was embarrassed at being related to someone who was gay was disgusting. If he hasn't apologised for the way he reacted, I hope John Fashanu understands the part he porbably played in his brother later killing himself.

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:15 am

rebel gooner wrote:
northbankbren wrote:isnt marc overmars gay
well he's married,, so another rumour

so was michael barrymore

steve1987 · Post by **steve1987** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:22 am

26may1989 wrote:Can't believe this is actually a debate. Are we really so retarded we don't know that a gay Arsenal player would get as much support as any other Arsenal player?.

People obviously think its an issue, which I don't get, to be honest with you. But, he wouldn't. I think some people would give him stick.

Among the 60,000 fans there would be a sizeable group who would abuse him, with another group talking to their mates in the pub about being embarassed that he was playing for Arsenal.

It's not right, but it happens.

While people still have the idea in their head that it is 'disgusting' as a few on hear have said, and comments like dicks smelling of poo don't help, then people/supporters will obviously veer away from gay players.

I wouldn't come out publicly as a gay footballer, it would just be madness. John Amaechi, the basketball player spoke about it quite interestingly and put it in a way I had never thought of.

When the interviewer said, 'but hey, haven't we moved on - we have gay marriage, gay adoption, gay MPs, equal opportunities etc?', Amaechi said how this is true - we accept gay people cutting our hair, serving us drinks on a plane, but we don't accept them doing typically macho jobs such as being a footballer, or a builder, or in his case a basketball player.

Justin Fashanu, the only openly gay footballer ever, killed himself, which is bloody scary if you're a 15-16 yr old thinking about becoming a professional footballer. You either give up on the game, or live a lie to one degree or another.