THE WENGER THREAD

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kiwomya wrote:
augie wrote:
foxinthebox2001 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... s-coquelin
“The appreciation today of the quality of a player is just down to the money you spend. If we had bought Coquelin at Christmas for £40m, everyone would say, ‘What a signing.’ I am sorry he didn’t cost any money. He is still a good player.”
Such a good player he was shipped out on loan to Charlton, and was only invited back because of an autumn midfielder injury crisis.
If Arteta had stayed fit he would have been at Charlton all season.... fact.



Yet again with the "i'm a genius at picking talent for peanuts" bullshit :evil: As the fox states, coquelin was discarded by wenker and there can be no doubt that he would have been sold before next september if we had not a midfield crisis :roll: Now that coquelin has emerged as a key player in this team (simply cos a lack of top quality DMs), wenker will use the old "I dont want to kill his development" as a reason not to buy a quality DM in the summer - just like his substitutions, wenker's transfer policy is nothing if not predictable :roll: :banghead: :evil:
Coquelin was a squad player though and stepped in when we had an emergency. Not every player that Arsenal sign will be a guaranteed first teamer. Coquelin has been at Arsenal for 8 years and I'm pretty sure he didn't sign an 8 year deal on day one so obviously the club thought he was worth hanging on to - or he would have just been released.
But the point is if our DM's at the beginning of the season, Arteta & Flamini, both ahead of him the pecking order, had stayed fit, would he have been recalled?
It goes back to a point I made weeks ago, AW had no idea what his best XI were in August, as usual it was just 'lets try this'.
Here we are almost at the end of the season, and he is still persevering with Ramsey on the wing.

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kiwomya wrote:
augie wrote:
foxinthebox2001 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... s-coquelin
“The appreciation today of the quality of a player is just down to the money you spend. If we had bought Coquelin at Christmas for £40m, everyone would say, ‘What a signing.’ I am sorry he didn’t cost any money. He is still a good player.”
Such a good player he was shipped out on loan to Charlton, and was only invited back because of an autumn midfielder injury crisis.
If Arteta had stayed fit he would have been at Charlton all season.... fact.



Yet again with the "i'm a genius at picking talent for peanuts" bullshit :evil: As the fox states, coquelin was discarded by wenker and there can be no doubt that he would have been sold before next september if we had not a midfield crisis :roll: Now that coquelin has emerged as a key player in this team (simply cos a lack of top quality DMs), wenker will use the old "I dont want to kill his development" as a reason not to buy a quality DM in the summer - just like his substitutions, wenker's transfer policy is nothing if not predictable :roll: :banghead: :evil:
Coquelin was a squad player though and stepped in when we had an emergency. Not every player that Arsenal sign will be a guaranteed first teamer. Coquelin has been at Arsenal for 8 years and I'm pretty sure he didn't sign an 8 year deal on day one so obviously the club thought he was worth hanging on to - or he would have just been released.
That's not really the point though mate. What we have is yet another example of Wenger doing things on the cheap.

And it's also yet another example of Wenger trying to spin a success story to paint himself as the Great Alchemist - the man who makes stars rather than buys them. Coquelin didn't get a look in until Arteta & Flamini each broke a fetlock and had to be put down.

I could begin to take Wenger seriously if he could accept some responsibility for the millions wasted on shit like Gervinho / Diaby / Denilson / Bendtner / Song / Squillaci / Santos / Park etc. etc. but still he rattles off this bullshit about the evils of money in football. (Whilst trousering £8million a year!)

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To be fair, Gervinho did save Wenger from paying 'dizzying prices' for the likes of Eden Hazard!! :oops: :oops: :banghead: :banghead:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:To be fair, Gervinho did save Wenger from paying 'dizzying prices' for the likes of Eden Hazard!! :oops: :oops: :banghead: :banghead:
Stop sharing your weed with Kiwomya, Hlebby.

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The point jumpers for goalposts correctly makes, is that the same half wit manager gave long term deals to diaby, denilson, almunia, aliadaire, bendtner etc and then couldnt get rid of them, so keeping a player for 8 years does not mean that he still believes in him and more often means that he again showed too much loyalty and cant flog them :roll: :oops:

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you are all missing the point of Wenker playing Ramsey on the wing,he is serving his apprenticeship as a winger before he gets moved into his true positon of Centre Forward in true Wenker tradition,he is gonna tear up the opposition up top I tell thee :barscarf:

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markyp wrote:you are all missing the point of Wenker playing Ramsey on the wing,he is serving his apprenticeship as a winger before he gets moved into his true positon of Centre Forward in true Wenker tradition,he is gonna tear up the opposition up top I tell thee :barscarf:
Maybe, like Theo he is about to enter his 'golden years'.
Some, like Abou though are still stuck in their 'mdf' years'.

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Wonga reply to the Swansea shambles................."The Swansea game was an accident. Having analysed it, it's one of the games we deserved to win the most of all the games," said Wenger............bollocks we were shite and deserved fook all and thats what we got.

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Nuggets wrote:Wonga reply to the Swansea shambles................."The Swansea game was an accident. Having analysed it, it's one of the games we deserved to win the most of all the games," said Wenger............bollocks we were shite and deserved fook all and thats what we got.

When accidents repeatedly happen there is usually an investigation into the root cause and what changes need to be made to ensure they don't happen again..........

New contract Arsene ? :banghead:

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Wenger's excuse book is in full flow tonight

" We are physically less fresh. We played about 58 games and you can see that "

FFS :banghead: :banghead:

Tiredness
Handbrakes
Financial doping
Parking the bus

If you want to know where the problem is - have a look in the fucking mirror!!!!!

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Good thing we didn't make more progress in the CL then! :roll: :banghead: :banghead:

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Bar the 2 changes in the starting line up tonight it's been the exact same 11 for the last 6 games on the bounce so if tiredness is the issue then the only one to blame is the fuck head that picks the team.

Bore off Turnip :roll:

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Tim Sherwood sat at home planning for the final:
Defend.
Put a cross in for Benteke to score a header.
Defend.
Win cup.



Summed up perfect by a bloke on Twitter.

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Last years cup final was one of the great days and I know this is hypothetical as fuck but if I was given the choice of losing to Villa and starting the season with a new manager or winning and having another season of Le Fraud then I'd take the hit all day long.

I cannot do another year of this fucking torture.

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WOW, lack of goals is now causing the season to become a disaster/embarrassment
so, since Giroud scored in the last min against Liverpool on April 4th we have...
scored no 0 goals at home
taken only 9 points out of a possible 18
of the goals we scored, 1 own goal v man u, 2 deflections v hull, and a goalie feck up against reading
this is a disaster of epic proportions

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