Yes, I agree Magic Hat, many of the players who left haven't done as well as they did at Arsenal - but that's not the point. Sure, they would have done better to stay, but they didn't - and that's the point. They followed the money and even if they haven't won many more medals, they are a lot richer. As long as there is money out there, players will be tempted. That's the game as it is today, like it or not. I wish everyone of those players had stayed - we would probably have dominated the Premiership and won the Champions League if they had, but they chose to walk and now Flamini has too. Others, including Fabregas, will do the same unless something radical is done.
No, my idea isn't to put Arsenal in debt - it's to do whatever is bloody necessary to win. If it means temporary debt, fine. Arsenal would get loans underwritten without a problem. This isn't Millwall. Alternatively, if the board floated Arsenal on the stock market we could all buy a piece and raise a bloody fortune. If we could - and I hate to say this - find a billionaire to bankroll us, we could build a bigger and better squad. As long as something is done to get us back on top where we belong I don't give a rat's arse what it is. One thing is for sure though, whining and winging about being strapped for cash and trying to make do on a shoestring is not ever going to give us the dominance we should have and deserve. I am absolutely sick and tired of eating Man Utd and Chelsea's dust - they should be swallowing ours by the bucket full.
Arsene Wenger
and as long as we sell them for good prices when they have little more to offer us, I'm fine with them leaving. We can use the money to buy new players
credit crunch, the banks are unwilling to loan to each other unless the government is backing them up. Liverpool's Hicks has had trouble getting loans, we already have a morgate and yet we want to go cap in hand to the banks and get funds where banks and Liverpool can not? Your playing a high risk game, succeed and you might get away with it, fail and the club will be badly damaged. If Arsenal, right now, floated in stock market, what odds someone unsuitable snags up the shares?
If you have patience and accept the club isn't going to kill itself but when the stadium debt is paid off, will have millions upon millions to spend, would that make you content?
credit crunch, the banks are unwilling to loan to each other unless the government is backing them up. Liverpool's Hicks has had trouble getting loans, we already have a morgate and yet we want to go cap in hand to the banks and get funds where banks and Liverpool can not? Your playing a high risk game, succeed and you might get away with it, fail and the club will be badly damaged. If Arsenal, right now, floated in stock market, what odds someone unsuitable snags up the shares?
If you have patience and accept the club isn't going to kill itself but when the stadium debt is paid off, will have millions upon millions to spend, would that make you content?
Re: Arsene Wenger
Actually, no Arsenal manager has ever won back-to-back titles - Chapman died midway through the second of the hat-trick of titles in the 1930s. His immediate successors didn't do the deed either, since the caretaker manager who won in the season Chapman died was replaced by George Allison.Herbert144 wrote:Incidentally, my name isn't Herbert - I chose that username in honour of Herbert Chapman, who remains the only Arsenal manager to win back-to-back League titles. With Herbert we dominated for a decade - I dream of the day when we do so again.
Chapman was obviously a top manager though, and changed the face of English football. Just like our current manager.