Wording of online flag petition is suspect (Dec 22)
I think everyone that has signed the petition is against the club not allowing us to take flags off ALL nations/identities. I really don't think people are looking at it from a political angle and how the petition was worded. I just think most of us are pissed of with the club slowly but surely ruining the matchday experience, and this is just another step closer to that.
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clockender1
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well said mc - the wording is irrelevant, its the principle.
I thought the two articles today were pretty spot on too.
I trawled the net yesterday looking at the original petition and surprise surprise there were links to it on a large number of cypriot political sites, hardly any of which were even in the UK.
so the thought than 8,000 "fans" signed it is an absolute nonsense. The Arsenal board have been duped by political activists using it as a cause against Turkey, which is nothing to do with football.
Having now thought about it, i think only greek, turkish and cypriot flags should be banned in the ground as although they are not political in themselves, those that organised the petition has now made them so.
Clockender69
I thought the two articles today were pretty spot on too.
I trawled the net yesterday looking at the original petition and surprise surprise there were links to it on a large number of cypriot political sites, hardly any of which were even in the UK.
so the thought than 8,000 "fans" signed it is an absolute nonsense. The Arsenal board have been duped by political activists using it as a cause against Turkey, which is nothing to do with football.
Having now thought about it, i think only greek, turkish and cypriot flags should be banned in the ground as although they are not political in themselves, those that organised the petition has now made them so.
Clockender69
Clockender, you're spot on mate, So often, as it is with this flag ban, these PC arseholes do something they think's right and it blows up in their faces, and the situation becomes 10 times worse than if they left it well alone, now it appears that it's starting to attract Political activists looking to further there own cause. 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Will these people ever learn?.
The disputed flag in question is not a national flag, its a flag which represents the occupation of the northern part of Cyprus by Turkey.
Many Greek Cypriot Arsenal fans were refugees of the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey and lost many family and their homes and heritage which has been on that part of the island for almost 3,500 years. The invasion and current occupation of Cyprus by Turkey has broken countless European Courts of Human Rights laws and is not recognised by the international community for a reason.
Now taking this into consideration, if someone brought in an NF flag into the ground on the basis of freedom of speech, dont you think many of our black supporters would be annoyed? If a Nazi flag was brought in, you know full well the Arsenal board would have it down straight away.
But because this issue is not well known by the aveage football fan, websites such as this are making the Greek Cypriot community look like PC moaners.
Countless members of my community support Arsenal, many of which live or used to live in the immediate vacinity of the ground, and have been going to Arsenal matches since the 1950's...way before the glory seekers and business execs we are seeing at the Emirates now. Its a shame that we are being villainised by standing up against a political flag that represents our opression by a foreign power in our homeland.
Its also ironic that Turkey has a bad record of human rights abuses against minorities but people are labelling the Greek Cypriot community as racist for wanting to remove a political flag which represents the forced racial segregation of the island.
Have some common sense...keep the national flags but leave unrecognised political flags at home.
Many Greek Cypriot Arsenal fans were refugees of the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey and lost many family and their homes and heritage which has been on that part of the island for almost 3,500 years. The invasion and current occupation of Cyprus by Turkey has broken countless European Courts of Human Rights laws and is not recognised by the international community for a reason.
Now taking this into consideration, if someone brought in an NF flag into the ground on the basis of freedom of speech, dont you think many of our black supporters would be annoyed? If a Nazi flag was brought in, you know full well the Arsenal board would have it down straight away.
But because this issue is not well known by the aveage football fan, websites such as this are making the Greek Cypriot community look like PC moaners.
Countless members of my community support Arsenal, many of which live or used to live in the immediate vacinity of the ground, and have been going to Arsenal matches since the 1950's...way before the glory seekers and business execs we are seeing at the Emirates now. Its a shame that we are being villainised by standing up against a political flag that represents our opression by a foreign power in our homeland.
Its also ironic that Turkey has a bad record of human rights abuses against minorities but people are labelling the Greek Cypriot community as racist for wanting to remove a political flag which represents the forced racial segregation of the island.
Have some common sense...keep the national flags but leave unrecognised political flags at home.
