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Whether Schneiderlin etc is good enough is not the issue. Other 'big' clubs got their transfers sorted for pre season ....ok we 've got Cech, nothing else. So not good enough Still you've got my season ticket renewal money. Leechy ponces
Wenger would never have paid the asking price for Schneiderlin after having looked at him when Saints were in the Championship when he had a value then of about £1.5m.
green gooner wrote:Wenger would never have paid the asking price for Schneiderlin after having looked at him when Saints were in the Championship when he had a value then of about £1.5m.
He will opt for the default internal solutions.
He may have a point in this case though. When Newcastle went down, Andy Carroll was listed as an asset of about £750k. Eighteen months later (and £50m richer), Liverpool decided he was somehow worth £35m.
Does anyone here really think Schneiderlin is the missing piece of the jigsaw? I still reckon Monsieur Magoo will move for someone at the fag-end of the window, because if he thinks Arteta and Flamini are up to it now he needs a reality check.
green gooner wrote:Wenger would never have paid the asking price for Schneiderlin after having looked at him when Saints were in the Championship when he had a value then of about £1.5m.
He will opt for the default internal solutions.
He may have a point in this case though. When Newcastle went down, Andy Carroll was listed as an asset of about £750k. Eighteen months later (and £50m richer), Liverpool decided he was somehow worth £35m.
Does anyone here really think Schneiderlin is the missing piece of the jigsaw? I still reckon Monsieur Magoo will move for someone at the fag-end of the window, because if he thinks Arteta and Flamini are up to it now he needs a reality check.
I don't think he is absolutely top class, but he is an undoubted significant improvement on the other options and history makes fans naturally worry that if you gave Wenger a straight choice of £25m on him or not bringing anyone in he'd probably go for the latter. If we can get someone better for the money then great but the fact that it appeared the player was keen on coming to us, we have shown recent interest and we've not got the deal done then it suggests we aren't looking at that as a problem area at the moment. I don't share your confidence on getting someone in at the end of the window, more likely we'll try for a striker.
green gooner wrote:Wenger would never have paid the asking price for Schneiderlin after having looked at him when Saints were in the Championship when he had a value then of about £1.5m.
He will opt for the default internal solutions.
He may have a point in this case though. When Newcastle went down, Andy Carroll was listed as an asset of about £750k. Eighteen months later (and £50m richer), Liverpool decided he was somehow worth £35m.
Does anyone here really think Schneiderlin is the missing piece of the jigsaw? I still reckon Monsieur Magoo will move for someone at the fag-end of the window, because if he thinks Arteta and Flamini are up to it now he needs a reality check.
I don't think he is absolutely top class, but he is an undoubted significant improvement on the other options and history makes fans naturally worry that if you gave Wenger a straight choice of £25m on him or not bringing anyone in he'd probably go for the latter. If we can get someone better for the money then great but the fact that it appeared the player was keen on coming to us, we have shown recent interest and we've not got the deal done then it suggests we aren't looking at that as a problem area at the moment. I don't share your confidence on getting someone in at the end of the window, more likely we'll try for a striker.
And that sums it up for me too - he isn't necessarily the player we should be targeting, but he is an upgrade on what we currently have and is (in my opinion) an upgrade on coquelin. I too do not share the optimism that le cock will bring in the requisite players but it will frustrate the shit out of me that he will then claim that there was no players available that are better than what he has already got in the squad - schweinstiger and schneiderlin are both better than what we have and to deny that is pure folly.
officepest wrote:Meanwhile Utd’s idiotic spending spree continues; reports in various rags say they want Cavani to replace van Ankles.
They are throwing money around like a simpleton after a lottery win.
They have so far gotten rid of an injury prone striker on massive wages, and they have got rid of a player coming back from a serious injury that didn't look like he was getting anywhere near his previous level (although he was never going to with the limited playing time they game him ) - both are very good moves in my opinion, and get rid of players draining the payroll in much the same way as the likes of diaby has done to us over the years
In the meantime they have brought in an (international) right back where they had none, they brought in 2 centre midfielders where they were shockingly weak last season, and they brought in depay who is meant to be one of the best young players at the mo.
Not sure how that can be classed as an idiotic spending spree tbh
Btw signing cavani would be a huge upgrade for them too and in a position of need too
This is Wenger though; he probably thought “£18m and not a penny more” (re: Schneiderlin), and will be looking to bring in somebody on the cheap/unsettled on deadline day.
If he can’t then we will be treated to being told that Arteta (and his incomprehensible new deal) mean we have enough bodies in that area.
We are top-heavy in central midfield already (quantity not quality-wise), although I would have already moved on Arteta, Rosicky and Flamini at least, so I can’t say I’m surprised we’re quiet.
I’m sure we’re working 24/7 to identify Super Quality players though.
augie wrote:They have so far gotten rid of an injury prone striker on massive wages, and they have got rid of a player coming back from a serious injury that didn't look like he was getting anywhere near his previous level (although he was never going to with the limited playing time they game him ) - both are very good moves in my opinion, and get rid of players draining the payroll in much the same way as the likes of diaby has done to us over the years
In the meantime they have brought in an (international) right back where they had none, they brought in 2 centre midfielders where they were shockingly weak last season, and they brought in depay who is meant to be one of the best young players at the mo.
Not sure how that can be classed as an idiotic spending spree tbh
Btw signing cavani would be a huge upgrade for them too and in a position of need too
Well, you can use this as a stick to beat me over the head with at the end of the season if it works out for them. I remain sceptical.
They can sign any number of midfielders, but while their defence contains Smalling, Jones and Evans they will still struggle; whether they struggle more than us is obviously yet to be seen. I imagine that De Gea will also go too and be replaced by Lloris, so they will be integrating a lot of new faces.
augie wrote:They have so far gotten rid of an injury prone striker on massive wages, and they have got rid of a player coming back from a serious injury that didn't look like he was getting anywhere near his previous level (although he was never going to with the limited playing time they game him ) - both are very good moves in my opinion, and get rid of players draining the payroll in much the same way as the likes of diaby has done to us over the years
In the meantime they have brought in an (international) right back where they had none, they brought in 2 centre midfielders where they were shockingly weak last season, and they brought in depay who is meant to be one of the best young players at the mo.
Not sure how that can be classed as an idiotic spending spree tbh
Btw signing cavani would be a huge upgrade for them too and in a position of need too
Well, you can use this as a stick to beat me over the head with at the end of the season if it works out for them. I remain sceptical.
They can sign any number of midfielders, but while their defence contains Smalling, Jones and Evans they will still struggle; whether they struggle more than us is obviously yet to be seen. I imagine that De Gea will also go too and be replaced by Lloris, so they will be integrating a lot of new faces.
RespectTheUmlaut wrote:At this point, I'm quite happy with the window. Manure have spent approximately 80-90million on transfer fees alone if they get Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin (giving Schwein 30m euro over a three period period in wages apparently) and haven't bought any real game changers that will take them above us. Citeh have spent 50m on Sterling who will improve them, obviously, but the fee is farcical. Chelski so far haven't done anything bar Falcao which won't make any difference if everything goes as expected. And we've spent 1/8th of United's fees so far and brought in a world class goalkeeper.
Of course we'll need to see how it goes from here til September but so far, everything is going well in my opinion.
So, "everything is going well" cos the team that finished miles ahead of Arsenal have so far matched them by signing a new second choice keeper...and cos Citeh (who also finished ahead of us and are superior) signed an overrated kid, and best of all, ManYoo won't really improve, despite signing an exciting winger, a proven winner who just won the WC, a proven PL performer and Italy's first choice right back?
Arteta has a new contract mind. So, yeah it's all going swimmingly
Top Londoner wrote:This may already have been posted.
Theo Walcott and Jack Wilshere both returned to the Arsenal first team at the end of the last campaign, and Wenger thinks that these two can now be considered to be like a new signing” and can provide extra competition for the above-mentioned positions. “The best way to strengthen other areas of the team is to get the players who did not play a lot last year and keep them fit,” Wenger said on Arsenal.com.
“Walcott basically did not play until the end of the season, Wilshere has not played many games. Those two were very convincing at the end of the season so I hope that this season we can benefit from their participation and competitiveness.
“We lost Ozil and Giroud for long periods last year and they contributed a lot in the second part of the season. Let’s hope all these players will be fit and available.
“After, if we can still add some quality, we will do it.”
Giroud had not scored a league goal for over 530 minutes heading into the close of the season.
Sometimes, it's just too easy to call him out on his bs