THE WENGER THREAD

[mcdowell42]

wrong thread..

Best post on here

[Sean]

How the fuck are we top?

We could have been over ten points clear in the lead, which we will need when we play the teams around us, as mentioned.

499 days of TOF's contract to go!

[DB10GOONER]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; arseofacrow likes cock.



But also; It's the inevitability of it all that kills me. We have the guts of a decent side. This year of all years the PL is there for the taking. But Wenger will not sign the players (in summer OR January) that we need and as our best players get injured or tired, or lose form or dip mentally, we will inevitably drift out to 4th spot over the coming months. Inevitably.

[foxinthebox2001]

As I have posted on my Twitter line, in less characters obviously.
If Wenger fucks up this time he has nowhere to hide, the media are on his case this time, but on the positive side he will have to go.
Its a win/win situation, the title or his head.
And you should see how the AKB's have reacted, but I wont block them, I find it humorous counting the many ways they try to defend him.

[augie]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; arseofacrow likes cock.



But also; It's the inevitability of it all that kills me. We have the guts of a decent side. This year of all years the PL is there for the taking. But Wenger will not sign the players (in summer OR January) that we need and as our best players get injured or tired, or lose form or dip mentally, we will inevitably drift out to 4th spot over the coming months. Inevitably.

I think that this season the premier league is so poor, that we wont finish any lower than 3rd and unless Leicester somehow maintain their unbelievable performances, we will probably finish in the top 2

[DB10GOONER]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; arseofacrow likes cock.



But also; It's the inevitability of it all that kills me. We have the guts of a decent side. This year of all years the PL is there for the taking. But Wenger will not sign the players (in summer OR January) that we need and as our best players get injured or tired, or lose form or dip mentally, we will inevitably drift out to 4th spot over the coming months. Inevitably.

I think that this season the premier league is so poor, that we wont finish any lower than 3rd and unless Leicester somehow maintain their unbelievable performances, we will probably finish in the top 2

Possibly. But tbh if Ozil gets injured or dips in form we are proper fucked. Our creativity from midfield without him is practically non-existent and that would push us out to 4th.

[rodders999]

I've said it before and I'll say it again; arseofacrow likes cock.



But also; It's the inevitability of it all that kills me. We have the guts of a decent side. This year of all years the PL is there for the taking. But Wenger will not sign the players (in summer OR January) that we need and as our best players get injured or tired, or lose form or dip mentally, we will inevitably drift out to 4th spot over the coming months. Inevitably.

I think that this season the premier league is so poor, that we wont finish any lower than 3rd and unless Leicester somehow maintain their unbelievable performances, we will probably finish in the top 2

Possibly. But tbh if Ozil gets injured or dips in form we are proper fcuked. Our creativity from midfield without him is practically non-existent and that would push us out to 4th.

Yeah I'd agree with that, we're concentrating so much on what's ahead of us that we don't realise one small dip in form and we'll be swallowed up by those behind us. This has got that finishing 4th in a 2 horse race scenario from a few seasons back written all over it again.

[Herd]

If you buy into mine and other peoples opinion in that the board and Arsene's only ambition is CL qualification , our action or lack of it in this and other transfer windows are consistent with the business model that we perceive !

[BFG4]

If you buy into mine and other peoples opinion in that the board and Arsene's only ambition is CL qualification , our action or lack of it in this and other transfer windows are consistent with the business model that we perceive !

That's the problem with our so called title challenge, just compare us to the other teams around us. You have LVG who will be sacked by next season at the latest, or Klopp who, if he doesn't deliver CL football for L'pool will be out, while Pellegrini is gone from City, no matter what happens this season. In comparison, Wenger is under zero pressure to win the title, and will probably get a bonus from silent Stan when he 'achieves' Cl football while only spending a fraction of our massive transfer kitty. A manager with any sort of dignity would be doing his upmost to deliver the title, but in Wenger's eyes, why bother when you know there will be no cost for failing again.

[xisstential]

If you buy into mine and other peoples opinion in that the board and Arsene's only ambition is CL qualification , our action or lack of it in this and other transfer windows are consistent with the business model that we perceive !

That's the problem with our so called title challenge, just compare us to the other teams around us. You have LVG who will be sacked by next season at the latest, or Klopp who, if he doesn't deliver CL football for L'pool will be out, while Pellegrini is gone from City, no matter what happens this season. In comparison, Wenger is under zero pressure to win the title, and will probably get a bonus from silent Stan when he 'achieves' Cl football while only spending a fraction of our massive transfer kitty. A manager with any sort of dignity would be doing his upmost to deliver the title, but in Wenger's eyes, why bother when you know there will be no cost for failing again.

It's a business. Does it make good business sense to spend 60 - 100m to win a title worth around 25??? No, simple as that.Wenger has absolutely no shame, he earns a fortune doing a job that he is not actually employed for and he DOESN'T do the one he is employed for. The man is shameless & bristles with indignation if anybody has the temerity to even question him.

[augie]

If you buy into mine and other peoples opinion in that the board and Arsene's only ambition is CL qualification , our action or lack of it in this and other transfer windows are consistent with the business model that we perceive !

That's the problem with our so called title challenge, just compare us to the other teams around us. You have LVG who will be sacked by next season at the latest, or Klopp who, if he doesn't deliver CL football for L'pool will be out, while Pellegrini is gone from City, no matter what happens this season. In comparison, Wenger is under zero pressure to win the title, and will probably get a bonus from silent Stan when he 'achieves' Cl football while only spending a fraction of our massive transfer kitty. A manager with any sort of dignity would be doing his upmost to deliver the title, but in Wenger's eyes, why bother when you know there will be no cost for failing again.

It's a business. Does it make good business sense to spend 60 - 100m to win a title worth around 25??? No, simple as that.Wenger has absolutely no shame, he earns a fortune doing a job that he is not actually employed for and he DOESN'T do the one he is employed for. The man is shameless & bristles with indignation if anybody has the temerity to even question him.

People have got to stop looking at things at face level - winning the premier league is not just worth the £25m extra in prize money. Winners have a more successful brand. The more success the "business" is, the more the business is worth. Winners can command a higher sponsorship deal. Winners attract more fans worldwide. Winners sell more merchandise. Winners can attract the better players and managers.
This whole situation is like the ticket money situation in that, the money received in ticket sales is dwarfed by all the other income the club receives on matchdays

[xisstential]

People have got to stop looking at things at face level - winning the premier league is not just worth the £25m extra in prize money. Winners have a more successful brand. The more success the "business" is, the more the business is worth. Winners can command a higher sponsorship deal. Winners attract more fans worldwide. Winners sell more merchandise. Winners can attract the better players and managers.
This whole situation is like the ticket money situation in that, the money received in ticket sales is dwarfed by all the other income the club receives on matchdays

Agreed.and we all see it. But Stan is not going to splash out that kind of money as there is no guarantee. Or maybe he is prepared to and Wenger is the one who is scared he is going to blow 100m and STILL not win it?? Or maybe he wants to prove to the world he is a genius by winning it with the minimum amount of outlay. Who the hell knows??? The bottom line is, what they are doing now as a business model WORKS. CL every season, minimum outlay, scrape into last 16, still have millions of AKB's around the world and the Emirates is a Saturday/Sunday afternoon goldmine......Wenger is not tearing through money with no return. AND, we have won 2 FA cups in the past 2 seasons as a crowd pleasing bonus. EVERY single season for us is Groundhog Day. 95% of us on here pretty much know exactly what lies ahead over the next 3 months. Winning the PL is not one of them. If Wenger bought 3 strategic position players in the next 2 weeks we would be odds on favourites. SO tell me why he doesn't. It is either because of the fore mentioned reasons or he couldn't care less.I believe, and have for years, that he is absolutely FUCKING determined to show EVERYBODY it can be done without continually splashing out. He knows best. And if he fails.... hey so what, there's always next season. Rinse & repeat.....

[GoonerMuzz]

People have got to stop looking at things at face level - winning the premier league is not just worth the £25m extra in prize money. Winners have a more successful brand. The more success the "business" is, the more the business is worth. Winners can command a higher sponsorship deal. Winners attract more fans worldwide. Winners sell more merchandise. Winners can attract the better players and managers.
This whole situation is like the ticket money situation in that, the money received in ticket sales is dwarfed by all the other income the club receives on matchdays

Agreed.and we all see it. But Stan is not going to splash out that kind of money as there is no guarantee. Or maybe he is prepared to and Wenger is the one who is scared he is going to blow 100m and STILL not win it?? Or maybe he wants to prove to the world he is a genius by winning it with the minimum amount of outlay. Who the hell knows??? The bottom line is, what they are doing now as a business model WORKS. CL every season, minimum outlay, scrape into last 16, still have millions of AKB's around the world and the Emirates is a Saturday/Sunday afternoon goldmine......Wenger is not tearing through money with no return. AND, we have won 2 FA cups in the past 2 seasons as a crowd pleasing bonus. EVERY single season for us is Groundhog Day. 95% of us on here pretty much know exactly what lies ahead over the next 3 months. Winning the PL is not one of them. If Wenger bought 3 strategic position players in the next 2 weeks we would be odds on favourites. SO tell me why he doesn't. It is either because of the fore mentioned reasons or he couldn't care less.I believe, and have for years, that he is absolutely FUCKING determined to show EVERYBODY it can be done without continually splashing out. He knows best. And if he fails.... hey so what, there's always next season. Rinse & repeat.....

I really am beginning to believe the situation you mention above may have a lot of merit, if he doesn't spend too much money and we don't win he has the good old excuse that no-one was available for the right money, or injuries, or refs or the multiple other excuses time after time.

However if he goes out and spends 100+M and wins nothing he is no better than all the other managers that have spend loads and failed (succesive Spuds managers anyone ).

AW is legend in his own mind and wants to stay that way and he wont do anything to jeopardise his self image or the belief of the devoted masses, because if he did spend and fail even some of the sheeple might start to doubt him.

Basically he suffers from moral cowardice, he knows what is right but wont do it out of fear

[Herd]

People have got to stop looking at things at face level - winning the premier league is not just worth the £25m extra in prize money. Winners have a more successful brand. The more success the "business" is, the more the business is worth. Winners can command a higher sponsorship deal. Winners attract more fans worldwide. Winners sell more merchandise. Winners can attract the better players and managers.
This whole situation is like the ticket money situation in that, the money received in ticket sales is dwarfed by all the other income the club receives on matchdays

Augie I agree with you ,I dont look at it that way but the Owners of the club do .
The club are extremely "risk averse" and it is very clear by their actions (or lack of them) that they are content with the business model as it stands !

Of course they will never tell us that but thats how it is !

[armchair]

I've been saying for a long time that Wenger is a coward. He should be using ALL the resources at his disposal to improve us. That includes money.
There has always been transfer money made available to him to improve the squad. Seems like he has taken great delight at not using it, even going as far as to say if he was given £100 million he would "give it back"

No value in the market
No-one available
British players overpriced
Club refused to sell
World Cup/Euro Championship year
"Tried" to buy
No-one does business in January
Injured squad players still to return
That would "kill" the competing player

All excuses Wenger has trotted out to justify his cowardice at not bringing in top money signings. Then we have the old Wenger supporter excuses too

All of the above plus......
The Emirates Stadium cost
His hands are tied
Its the board who wont give him the money.