THE WENGER THREAD

[Redarmy]

The issue would be how would the players take to a new boss?
He seems to act as a father figure to the more sensitive souls in the team, like those that still have potential after 10 years, and too matey to those who should have been moved on.
Rather than being sentimental and giving contract extensions to has beens like Arteta & Flamini, and yes Mertesacker, a new coach will be ruthless, hopefully.

Absolutely its not a fucking charity for retiring, just shit and spineless footballers

Wenger has been coping out of making the big decisions to the detriment of Arsenal FC his employer

[Almunia is a clown]

The issue would be how would the players take to a new boss?
He seems to act as a father figure to the more sensitive souls in the team, like those that still have potential after 10 years, and too matey to those who should have been moved on.

Gunnersaurus has as much potential spirit as Theo Walcott & keeps the kids happy signing autographs & helping selling merchandise from the clubs shops

[casgooner]

The issue would be how would the players take to a new boss?
He seems to act as a father figure to the more sensitive souls in the team, like those that still have potential after 10 years, and too matey to those who should have been moved on.
Rather than being sentimental and giving contract extensions to has beens like Arteta & Flamini, and yes Mertesacker, a new coach will be ruthless, hopefully.

That is so spot on! Wenger just doesn't want to upset anyone, except the fans, he's not bothered how they feel I'm sure.

[Nos89]

oh good, we've gone back to the "lets pretend there are no managers in world football other than Arsene Wenger that could get a club with the resources we have to compete in a title race" narrative.

it's been a while someone on here has drawn up a list of thirty or so more competent managers, maybe you missed the last list nos89?

I think there are quite a few who could win us the title with the current squad. Id also add that there must be at least 30 managers who's love to take over from Wenger tomorrow as they know they'll improve our on the pitch performance.

Nos89 the bottom line is DONT BE SCARED OF CHANGE,wouldnt you rather have a new manager,finish outside the top 4 for a year maybe two if need be but then come back fighting winning the title and actually tryng to win the CL instead of us just getting buttholed out of it every year,instead of this 4th place ground hog day,fortune favours the brave and Chelsea,city,Barca,Real,Bayern never have a problem changing managers and maintaining or bettering themselves,yes Chelsea,bloody Chelsea whod have thought it 12 years ago

I've been banging the drum for change since 2007. In all my posts yesterday I was supporting change, I didn't say Wenger should stay forever. I stated the I didn't like the vile statements aimed at Wenger and that suggested he should get respect for keeping us in the top 4 in a 20 year period which I think only manure under Ferguson has achieved in over 100 years. I don't think Arsenal fans would tolerate dropping outside the top 4 for 2 seasons, look at Utd fans, and dare I say some Arsenal fans are worse than Utd fans in terms of expectation because of what we pay to attend games. He tenure has seen sustained consistency which we haven't experienced before. People cry about winning the FA Cup but half of the 12 we have won has been under Wenger. We can still win this league, Sunday was a huge let down but no one deserves to be vilified in such an aggressive manner, not even Wenger.

Maybe maybe not - manure fans are complaining cos they are not winning the league, but us Gooners are complaining cos we don't try to win the league and set top 4 as our target There would be an absolute meltdown in mancland if they ever had a manager that set top 4 as their target at the start of a season - they spend to try and raise the bar whilst we don't spend cos we are happy where we are and that is the reason for the vitrol thrown at wenker

Had we not won the FA cup in 2014 Wenger would have left and who was strongly reported as his replacement Louis van Gaal. That would have been greeted with euphoria and relief. 18 months later look at Utd and look at us. I'm quite sure we would welcome back the type of football played by Arsenal between 1993-95, which was dire and saw us in a position Chelski currently find themselves in. I'm looking forward to the next few months as we can still win this league and if it means backing Wenger to do it, then so be it I just want us at the top again.

[northbank123]

Complete myth. Wenger would never have admitted in 2014 that he hadn't done well enough and wasn't the best man for the job. And certainly wouldn't have been pushed out over an FA Cup which despite a temendous record of winning he has shat on for the last decade.

And comparing the biggest managerial failure appointment as an automatic alternative to Wenger is the laziest trick in the book - as though it proves the only alternative is Wenger or what van Gaal has brought to United. Just like criticism of transfer policy is often met with "would you rather us be like Liverpool paying 20-30m for average players" or even better "you would rather us go out of existence spending madly like Pompey/Leeds/Rangers" as though there is no alternative.

[northbank123]

And van Gaal will be gone by the end of the year at United. Even if he'd come in here worst case scenario is we would be looking for another manager at the end of the year (few great managers available) instead of being 2 years further down the line with Wenger and being no closer to winning the league.

Also funny how most managers put forward to "who would replace Wenger then?" are dismissed as unrealistic or unattainable yet of course in this demonstrative scenario of yours we would clearly be able to tempt a manager over United

[Henry Norris 1913]

I'm quite sure we would welcome back the type of football played by Arsenal between 1993-95, which was dire and saw us in a position Chelski currently find themselves in

two european finals, one european trophy, and fourth place? wouldn't be the worst would it

[Nos89]

I'm quite sure we would welcome back the type of football played by Arsenal between 1993-95, which was dire and saw us in a position Chelski currently find themselves in

two european finals, one european trophy, and fourth place? wouldn't be the worst would it

4th wouldn't be the worst?

[Henry Norris 1913]

I'm quite sure we would welcome back the type of football played by Arsenal between 1993-95, which was dire and saw us in a position Chelski currently find themselves in

two european finals, one european trophy, and fourth place? wouldn't be the worst would it

4th wouldn't be the worst?

that's what I heard from you yesterday, and from most akb's

of course it wouldn't? are you saying you wouldn't swap a time like now when we are likely to finish fourth, for a season where we would finish fourth with a different manager?

I would bite your arm off if you offered me that - I'd love to have someone else to blame instead of wenger

[augie]

Nos89,

A few quick comments -

1. Whenever we get a new manager, the first thing I would demand from him would be to organise us better and to light a fire under the players. We have good technical players going forward but we are clueless defensively regardless of who is playing in the team - the same squad could easily be set up better by any astute manager, so if lvg added defensive nous to our attacking "flair" we would be a lot closer to winning the bigger trophies than we are now

2. I said it when moyes was there and I will say it again now.........ferguscum left them with a shite team when he left. Whoever went in there needed to spend a kings ransom to get the squad to their expected level - if a new manager took over our squad next season, they would inherit a much better squad and one with a few astute purchases and better tactics, would be at the top again.

3. I really dont give a flying fcuk about this "pretty football" nonsense - all down through the history of this club you will see us tagged as being a team that played boring football. Obviously that is a stereotype that wasn't always accurate, but as Gooners we really didn't give a f.uck because WE WERE SUCCESSFUL I am not an artist/theatre type of person who needs to be entertained or who judges things by how beautiful it looks, because at the end of the day it is a results business and I would rather support a successful club than an club that is defined by how it looks

[Ikechukwu1]

Nos89 is smashing it today! The latest bullshit in the AKB Book of Mor(m)on, ie that LVG was apparently lined up as Arsene's replacement.
Apart from the fact that this is completely invented bollocks, Wenker himself is on record as saying that even if he'd lost the 2014 FA Cup that he would not have stepped down! If that fraud can sit there and chat lies after losing 8-2 at OT, or losing 6-0 on his 1,000th celebrations, what are you on about FA Cup? He claimed back in 2009 that if he didn't win the league within 2years he would be a failure. I'll get the link for you if you like - 2016 and this dinkle-wipe is still around despite having failed in the league for over a decade!

As NB123 says the funniest thing with AKBs is that they instantly dismiss every alternative you give them! We've named them before: Pep, Simeone, Ancelotti, Klopp, Allegri, Conte, Joachim Low. These managers have all been or are available and looking at major trophies, are FAR more successful than Le Tool.

Even if you claim worst case LVG scenario as you do, it's been widely reported that LVG has twice tendered his resignation at ManYoo because he knows the fans expect more and because he thinks it isn't good enough. Funny he doesn't take the alternative option, you know...remind Yernited fans that they were finishing 6th in 1953 and would they still want that...that they play in a 70,000 stadium...that they have loads of cash and that Grimsby and Barnet would kill to be in their position..."Be careful what you wish for" etc

Far as I see LVG would have been a better option for us: sure we'd have wasted 2 years but we've wasted 12 and counting under this Fraud! LVG woulda had the grace to piss off. Unlike Lord Wenker, who happily signs contract after contract FFS. Who knows maybe we'll finally score a league goal against the Chavs before the end of his next deal, and if we score one after 14+ hours of football we can celebrate that "achievement" along with annual last 16 CL butt-pumpings

[SteveO 35]

Nos89 is smashing it today! The latest bullshit in the AKB Book of Mor(m)on, ie that LVG was apparently lined up as Arsene's replacement.
Apart from the fact that this is completely invented bollocks, Wenker himself is on record as saying that even if he'd lost the 2014 FA Cup that he would not have stepped down! If that fraud can sit there and chat lies after losing 8-2 at OT, or losing 6-0 on his 1,000th celebrations, what are you on about FA Cup? He claimed back in 2009 that if he didn't win the league within 2years he would be a failure. I'll get the link for you if you like - 2016 and this dinkle-wipe is still around despite having failed in the league for over a decade!

As NB123 says the funniest thing with AKBs is that they instantly dismiss every alternative you give them! We've named them before: Pep, Simeone, Ancelotti, Klopp, Allegri, Conte, Joachim Low. These managers have all been or are available and looking at major trophies, are FAR more successful than Le Tool.

Even if you claim worst case LVG scenario as you do, it's been widely reported that LVG has twice tendered his resignation at ManYoo because he knows the fans expect more and because he thinks it isn't good enough. Funny he doesn't take the alternative option, you know...remind Yernited fans that they were finishing 6th in 1953 and would they still want that...that they play in a 70,000 stadium...that they have loads of cash and that Grimsby and Barnet would kill to be in their position..."Be careful what you wish for" etc

Far as I see LVG would have been a better option for us: sure we'd have wasted 2 years but we've wasted 12 and counting under this Fraud! LVG woulda had the grace to piss off. Unlike Lord Wenker, who happily signs contract after contract FFS. Who knows maybe we'll finally score a league goal against the Chavs before the end of his next deal, and if we score one after 14+ hours of football we can celebrate that "achievement" along with annual last 16 CL butt-pumpings

Dinkle-wipe

[MrT]

Nos89 is smashing it today! The latest bullshit in the AKB Book of Mor(m)on, ie that LVG was apparently lined up as Arsene's replacement.
Apart from the fact that this is completely invented bollocks, Wenker himself is on record as saying that even if he'd lost the 2014 FA Cup that he would not have stepped down! If that fraud can sit there and chat lies after losing 8-2 at OT, or losing 6-0 on his 1,000th celebrations, what are you on about FA Cup? He claimed back in 2009 that if he didn't win the league within 2years he would be a failure. I'll get the link for you if you like - 2016 and this dinkle-wipe is still around despite having failed in the league for over a decade!

As NB123 says the funniest thing with AKBs is that they instantly dismiss every alternative you give them! We've named them before: Pep, Simeone, Ancelotti, Klopp, Allegri, Conte, Joachim Low. These managers have all been or are available and looking at major trophies, are FAR more successful than Le Tool.

Even if you claim worst case LVG scenario as you do, it's been widely reported that LVG has twice tendered his resignation at ManYoo because he knows the fans expect more and because he thinks it isn't good enough. Funny he doesn't take the alternative option, you know...remind Yernited fans that they were finishing 6th in 1953 and would they still want that...that they play in a 70,000 stadium...that they have loads of cash and that Grimsby and Barnet would kill to be in their position..."Be careful what you wish for" etc

Far as I see LVG would have been a better option for us: sure we'd have wasted 2 years but we've wasted 12 and counting under this Fraud! LVG woulda had the grace to piss off. Unlike Lord Wenker, who happily signs contract after contract FFS. Who knows maybe we'll finally score a league goal against the Chavs before the end of his next deal, and if we score one after 14+ hours of football we can celebrate that "achievement" along with annual last 16 CL butt-pumpings

Dinkle-wipe

Doesn't matter what anyone says, Baba's rants make this forum a lot more entertaining.

[SteveO 35]

Nos89 is smashing it today! The latest bullshit in the AKB Book of Mor(m)on, ie that LVG was apparently lined up as Arsene's replacement.
Apart from the fact that this is completely invented bollocks, Wenker himself is on record as saying that even if he'd lost the 2014 FA Cup that he would not have stepped down! If that fraud can sit there and chat lies after losing 8-2 at OT, or losing 6-0 on his 1,000th celebrations, what are you on about FA Cup? He claimed back in 2009 that if he didn't win the league within 2years he would be a failure. I'll get the link for you if you like - 2016 and this dinkle-wipe is still around despite having failed in the league for over a decade!

As NB123 says the funniest thing with AKBs is that they instantly dismiss every alternative you give them! We've named them before: Pep, Simeone, Ancelotti, Klopp, Allegri, Conte, Joachim Low. These managers have all been or are available and looking at major trophies, are FAR more successful than Le Tool.

Even if you claim worst case LVG scenario as you do, it's been widely reported that LVG has twice tendered his resignation at ManYoo because he knows the fans expect more and because he thinks it isn't good enough. Funny he doesn't take the alternative option, you know...remind Yernited fans that they were finishing 6th in 1953 and would they still want that...that they play in a 70,000 stadium...that they have loads of cash and that Grimsby and Barnet would kill to be in their position..."Be careful what you wish for" etc

Far as I see LVG would have been a better option for us: sure we'd have wasted 2 years but we've wasted 12 and counting under this Fraud! LVG woulda had the grace to piss off. Unlike Lord Wenker, who happily signs contract after contract FFS. Who knows maybe we'll finally score a league goal against the Chavs before the end of his next deal, and if we score one after 14+ hours of football we can celebrate that "achievement" along with annual last 16 CL butt-pumpings

Dinkle-wipe

Doesn't matter what anyone says, Baba's rants make this forum a lot more entertaining.

I can honestly say that my vocabulary has certainly expanded ! Don't even get him started on The Cook and Red Action.....they'll need to release a new version of the Oxford Dictionary

[Ikechukwu1]