Oxlade-Chamberlain

[goonersid]

Agree with the negative comments on Ox tbh I don't think I ever rated him highly. Actually seems to get worse when he gets a little run in the team

[armchair]

We all know Wenger can't properly coach or develop young players and add to the fact Chamberlain's low football IQ, is it any surprise how shit he has become?

With the proper coaching he could be a very good player, but we won't get that until Wenger goes.

That's a load of nonsense I'm afraid. Plenty of young players have improved and developed into top players under Wenger (to name but a few Henry, Vieira, Fabregas, JVP, Cashley, Wilshere, Coquelin, Bellerin).

The fact is Ox for one reason or another has not delivered on his initial promise. It could be due to the injuries he has sustained, or more likely that he wasn't all that talented in the first place and has been just another one in a long line of overrated English youngsters who let fame and money take their focus off football.

Henry was allready a world cup winner ,vierra a 21 year old regular in the french under 21's,fabregas had shined as a youth starsame for bellerin and Coquelin !
Only Cashley and Jack came from the system and Cashley was allready in it when wenger arrived ,JAck is one of the few players Arsenal has Produced a poor return for nearly 20 years !

I would say that between 2008-2012 all the young players improved under Wenger. We should not have been anywhere near the top 4 with a squad of players we had then, but Wenger managed them to do it. Players like Senderos, Djourou, Denilson, Eboue, Bendtner,Chamakh, Barndoor
etc...I'm sure I've missed a few.

Need to add Gibbs to that list of one. Him and Jack are the only homegrown players we have in our squad of 25.

Throwing out a list of mainly poor players, most of whom should never have been within a million miles of the Arsenal, who Wenger consistently played, overpaid and used for his failed project.
And using these poor players, that Wenger brought in and overpaid as a reason to defend Wenger? Just because they got top four? Not a real actual trophy?

Thats some good Wenger supporter logic right there.

Fourth place is not a trophy. Remember?

[northbank123]

That incident in stoppage time where Ox was in with just one man to beat and just ground to a complete halt before shifting it onto Walcott who aimlessly passed it straight to a Burnley defender sums up the pair of them.

[gp543]

Fair fucks, he was actually quite good today

[Ikechukwu1]

http://m.goal.com/s/en-gb/news/2896/pre ... %2BSources

Just look at Ox. And ask yourself if you'll ever see Suarez, Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo or Aguero prepare for a game like this? Can you imagine what Tony Adams would have done to a player getting ready for a game by acting like this? Or Roy Keane?
Speaking of Keano he absolutely nailed it at the start of the season:
"Six packs and selfies".
That's a perfect description of the spineless overpaid pack of bottling mediocre arse holes we have stealing a living.
A true testament to the disgusting accountability-free and pressure-less culture Le Trou du Cul has presided over for 10 years.
What a C***.

[Wilson]

Enormous natural ability. But he does seem like he is just going through the motions.

Wenger needs to shoulder some blame, as he sets the tone and mentality which filters throughout.

I cant help but feel our training sessions comprise of 5 a side football, and everyone is pleasant and complimentary.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Sums up the club under Wanker for the last decade. Signed as a teenager, given a huge contract and now has no pressure to do anything.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Actually tipped him to be one of our better players this season but he has regressed and as much as everyone on here wants to blame wenger Ox himself must shoulder the majority of the blame, he has a good run in the team with little pressure of losing his place because of our constant injury problem so should have been playing with confidence and without fear.

As mentioned by several others and a reason I care less and less about the top level of the game is the ridiculous amount of money being paid to EVERYONE.

I guess a problem is if you don't give these youngsters a decent contract then their agents will be demanding a move and peddling said player to all and sundry.

Catch 22 really, do you keep them on a lower wager (still ridiculously high when, fundamentally they're just playing a sport) and risk losing a player that could turn out to truly great or give them a long term contract that keeps them at the club.

I still think there is a very good player in the Ox but he has to apply himself far better and start doing the right things at the right times.

[DB10GOONER]

Actually tipped him to be one of our better players this season but he has regressed and as much as everyone on here wants to blame wenger Ox himself must shoulder the majority of the blame, he has a good run in the team with little pressure of losing his place because of our constant injury problem so should have been playing with confidence and without fear.

As mentioned by several others and a reason I care less and less about the top level of the game is the ridiculous amount of money being paid to EVERYONE.

I guess a problem is if you don't give these youngsters a decent contract then their agents will be demanding a move and peddling said player to all and sundry.

Catch 22 really, do you keep them on a lower wager (still ridiculously high when, fundamentally they're just playing a sport) and risk losing a player that could turn out to truly great or give them a long term contract that keeps them at the club.

I still think there is a very good player in the Ox but he has to apply himself far better and start doing the right things at the right times.

I think alot of people have actually commented that the Ox also has to take responsibility for his actions, mate. But it is fair comment that one of a manager's many roles is to get the best from the players too surely?

Capping young players wages would have to be a game-wide regulation or, as you say, it would be impossible to retain decent young players. You would need to also limit the power of agents. I've long opined that modern football agents are an absolute cancer on the game.

[Herd]

spineless ??


http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/...20160204105902

[armchair]

Really could never see what all the fuss was about with OX. I never seen the "massive potential" often thrown about.
Hes just always been another average back-up player imo that Wenger seems to love filling the squad with and overpaying.

[markyp]

a decent coach and I think the ox could be a worldy,unfortunately clueless has coached all the good out of him,i still rate him and I wish others would cut him some slack in what is a difficult time for him on the pitch

[markyp]

a decent coach and I think the ox could be a worldy,unfortunately clueless has coached all the good out of him,i still rate him and I wish others would cut him some slack in what is a difficult time for him on the pitch

[Redarmy]

Good update on Arsenal truth, with Chamberlain disco dancing in the tunnel before Saints game.......

For people that cannot envision what it takes to win the Premier League or Champions League, the clip below will doubtless mean nothing. To me, it's a perfect illustration of the lack of focus and mental preparation that typifies Wenger's kindergarten culture.

Can you imagine how Gary Neville, Roy Keane or any of the club's coaches would have reacted standing next to Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, the disco dancing clown? They'd knock his block off.

Dennis Bergkamp would look at him and think, "What am I doing in the same team as this dickhead?"

Even more laughable, this video was posted by Arsenal.con, blissfully unaware of how it may be perceived by those already fed up to the back teeth with the club's perpetual losers mentality.

[northbank123]

That to add to his embarrassing antics against Chelsea where the first thing he did when he came on was give Fabregas a pat on the back and a huge grin. As though he was larking about down the park rather than watching us chuck our season away.

Much like Szczesny he just does not grasp the gravity of turning out for the Arsenal and treat it as though he was playing FIFA.