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Nos89 wrote:If this is a "new" transfer thread can I start by saying Suarez, Benzema, Higuaín, Martinez, Alonso, Wanyama, Schneirderlin, Vardy, Neymar, Myhrez, Muller, Greizmann, Cavani, Goetze, Aubameyang, Reus, Lewandoski, Igahalo, and Morato will not be coming in the summer....
You're not expecting any of them to turn up knocking on le cock's door then ?
Wilson wrote:'if I sign a midfielder, what do I tell Denilson"?
Once Wenger backs a player, he backs him all the way. Almunia is a good example - clearly out of his depth but Wenger seemed intent in sticking with him.
I get the same feeling with Giroud, in the sense Wenger had nailed his hopes to Giroud and is close minded about signing another striker.
He supports players unconditionally, and will offer contract extensions and refuse to rock the boat by signing a player in their position. Its the wrong way to manage, and it breeds complacency which is see week in week out. If Giroud Arsenal career depended on him being the difference in these tight games, he might make sure he finished a few more chances.
That's absolutely right. Giroud has been our main striker for 4 seasons which is bad enough as he is just not good enough, but Wenger has actively gone out of his way to not sign anybody to challenge him which breeds such a terrible culture and level of arrogance. It's basically buying players loyalty. Had we signed Suarez Wenger would have played him on the wing.
Like you said Almunia and then Szczesny for a time were the same. Wenger often expects good signings to fall into his lap - Hugo Lloris practically did. Wealth of international and continental experience, proven quality, mid-20s and a tiny fee to pay for the most difficult position to recruit.
Wilson wrote:'if I sign a midfielder, what do I tell Denilson"?
Once Wenger backs a player, he backs him all the way. Almunia is a good example - clearly out of his depth but Wenger seemed intent in sticking with him.
How about telling Denilson "you are not good enough for The Arsenal, but you can play your mandelin at the Junior Gunners Xmas party"
Quite agree Wilson, once your in the team/squad there is no removing them - unless they decide themselves to go somewhere with ambition.
Nos89 wrote:If this is a "new" transfer thread can I start by saying Suarez, Benzema, Higuaín, Martinez, Alonso, Wanyama, Schneirderlin, Vardy, Neymar, Myhrez, Muller, Greizmann, Cavani, Goetze, Aubameyang, Reus, Lewandoski, Igahalo, and Morato will not be coming in the summer....
You're not expecting any of them to turn up knocking on le cock's door then ?
They probably have knocked on his door but he stubbornly refused to answer...or his butler Rosicky pulled a muscle on his way to the door...
Wilson wrote:'if I sign a midfielder, what do I tell Denilson"?
Once Wenger backs a player, he backs him all the way. Almunia is a good example - clearly out of his depth but Wenger seemed intent in sticking with him.
I get the same feeling with Giroud, in the sense Wenger had nailed his hopes to Giroud and is close minded about signing another striker.
He supports players unconditionally, and will offer contract extensions and refuse to rock the boat by signing a player in their position. Its the wrong way to manage, and it breeds complacency which is see week in week out. If Giroud Arsenal career depended on him being the difference in these tight games, he might make sure he finished a few more chances.
That's absolutely right. Giroud has been our main striker for 4 seasons which is bad enough as he is just not good enough, but Wenger has actively gone out of his way to not sign anybody to challenge him which breeds such a terrible culture and level of arrogance. It's basically buying players loyalty. Had we signed Suarez Wenger would have played him on the wing.
Like you said Almunia and then Szczesny for a time were the same. Wenger often expects good signings to fall into his lap - Hugo Lloris practically did. Wealth of international and continental experience, proven quality, mid-20s and a tiny fee to pay for the most difficult position to recruit.
I clicked on a news headline that read "Wenger discusses Summer transfer plans".
Like the idiot I am, I got all excited thinking we'd be targetting some top players, but the quote from Lord Wenger was " I won't be buying a striker this Summer". Thanks for that you c***!!!!!!!
Wilson wrote:'if I sign a midfielder, what do I tell Denilson"?
Once Wenger backs a player, he backs him all the way. Almunia is a good example - clearly out of his depth but Wenger seemed intent in sticking with him.
I get the same feeling with Giroud, in the sense Wenger had nailed his hopes to Giroud and is close minded about signing another striker.
He supports players unconditionally, and will offer contract extensions and refuse to rock the boat by signing a player in their position. Its the wrong way to manage, and it breeds complacency which is see week in week out. If Giroud Arsenal career depended on him being the difference in these tight games, he might make sure he finished a few more chances.
That's absolutely right. Giroud has been our main striker for 4 seasons which is bad enough as he is just not good enough, but Wenger has actively gone out of his way to not sign anybody to challenge him which breeds such a terrible culture and level of arrogance. It's basically buying players loyalty. Had we signed Suarez Wenger would have played him on the wing.
Like you said Almunia and then Szczesny for a time were the same. Wenger often expects good signings to fall into his lap - Hugo Lloris practically did. Wealth of international and continental experience, proven quality, mid-20s and a tiny fee to pay for the most difficult position to recruit.
I clicked on a news headline that read "Wenger discusses Summer transfer plans".
Like the idiot I am, I got all excited thinking we'd be targetting some top players, but the quote from Lord Wenger was " I won't be buying a striker this Summer". Thanks for that you c***!!!!!!!
Is it too much to hope that he wont be buying a striker because he will no longer be manager ? ?
To be fair if he signed a quality striker it might kill Giroud who at the tender age of 29 has so much more improvement in him after four bang average seasons here.
northbank123 wrote:To be fair if he signed a quality striker it might kill Giroud who at the tender age of 29 has so much more improvement in him after four bang average seasons here.
And what about what it would do to wally ? 10 years of largely bullshit performances wrapped around our favourite catchphrase......potential
The divisions below the Premiership all have teams with strikers who score goals. I find it strange that you rarely hear of or see anyone bought from these leagues.
Northampton's top scorer has 16 goals. He must have something to do that no matter what league he plays in.
I don't know if he'd be the answer to our problems but he wouldn't cost a fortune. There must be others who given the chance could do a grand job.
We have a scouting team apparently who are supposed to look into these things. I wonder what they really do.
GranadaJoe wrote:We may just have made our most important signing for a long time.
Ben Wrigglwsworth, Leicester's Head of Technical Scouting (remember Mahrez, Kane etc) has joined us. Welcome.
This is excellent news because the scouts we employ at present don't appear to know anything about talent.
He'll be given the same brief as his predecessor, find a good young player that we can sell to Barcelona in 5 years time for £30m....the players we want are established world class players and they don't need scouting. Just pick up a copy of world soccer look at the top of the team of the month/golden shoe leaders, pick one in the top ten and go and get them.