Leicester at home 14th 1200

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Wilson wrote:Agree, Wengers tactics are rubbish. Playing Gibbs as a left midfielder does not shore up the left hand side. Wenger's strengths has always been getting the players to play a fast paced passing game to overcome the opposition. But once the players cross the white line, Wenger is useless as his subs and formation shuffles do F all.

Giroud had a great period, but he has fizzled out and he needs to be hooked from the team. He needs to know he cant occupy the forward position and go 3-4 games without a goal. This is another area I am critical of Wenger - he lets complacency set in. Players need to be dropped at the first sign of poor form.

I would play Walcott upfront, with Sanchez and Chamberlain either flank. Ozil in the hole, Ramsey and Coquelin in midfield. Gabriel ahead of Mertesacker. I read of the 8 games Gabriel has played 90 minutes in, we conceded only one goal - these are stats that cannot be overlooked.

I think the consensus is Leicester wont look to sit back, and have done very well playing an attacking brand of football and fearing no team. They wont arrive scared or with a plan to sit back. So pick pace within the team. Play Walcott over Giroud and Gabriel over Mertesacker.

I will be dismayed, if Wenger plays Giroud and/or Mertesacker in this game.


I am extremely doubtful of that stat buddy - the Norwich goal where he got turned like he had never played the position before, will live long in the memory and I refuse to play that he hasn't conceded at least one other

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Don't know if that is supposedly just league but what about his and Chambers' ducking act against Burnley?

I would rather give him a run than Mertesacker but outside of that context the bloke doesn't exactly inspire confidence. That Norwich goal was one of the most naive pieces of defending you'll see and we nearly saw a repeat last weekend when instead of jockeying their attacker in a wide position when he had no cover, he went hell for leather trying to win the ball, got skinned and was bailed out by the bloke dithering and Bellerin getting a foot in.

With a CB coming from another league you have got to expect them to take time to flourish and as I've said I would give him a run. But to me the bloke does not look like the answer long term.

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You will never get a perfect defender. I like Gabriel, he is very aggressive and quick.

With Merteacker, I wonder, does his height and good positioning make up for the fact he is so slow he needs LK to do all the shirt tight defending? I have alwayf felt with Gabriel we are a better team. Make no mistake, the difference between a speed demon like Gabriel compared to the oil tanker in Mertesacker is massive.

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Quick feet slow mind.

Sounds like something Confucius might say but nope, that particular pearl of wisdom comes from yours truly about Gabriel.

His brain doesn't engage quickly enough and he's been cruelly exposed a number of times as a result - Bayern away, Norwich away and again at Bournemouth last weekend just off the top of my head. He was also extremely poor home to Burnley in the cup the other week, kicking fresh air, ducking out of headers and getting bullied off the ball. Extremely worrying behaviour from a centre back.

There was a ball played down the wing on Sunday and his pace meant he beat the attacker to it easily but he hesitated wondering what best to do (here's a clue fella - blow it into row Z) got robbed of the ball and only for Bellerin's blistering recover pace we would have conceded. He really needs to do the simple things properly because there's not much going on upstairs there I reckon. Maybe Bouldy could impart some wisdom on him :roll:

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As my So'ton mate says "Mertersaaaakker [keown pronunc] turns slower than an oil tanker".... Vardy will show him dust - he's just so aggressive!

This is pivotal - what with Tott, and both the Mancs to come.

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Wilson wrote:Agree, Wengers tactics are rubbish. Playing Gibbs as a left midfielder does not shore up the left hand side. Wenger's strengths has always been getting the players to play a fast paced passing game to overcome the opposition. But once the players cross the white line, Wenger is useless as his subs and formation shuffles do F all.

Giroud had a great period, but he has fizzled out and he needs to be hooked from the team. He needs to know he cant occupy the forward position and go 3-4 games without a goal. This is another area I am critical of Wenger - he lets complacency set in. Players need to be dropped at the first sign of poor form.

I would play Walcott upfront, with Sanchez and Chamberlain either flank. Ozil in the hole, Ramsey and Coquelin in midfield. Gabriel ahead of Mertesacker. I read of the 8 games Gabriel has played 90 minutes in, we conceded only one goal - these are stats that cannot be overlooked.

I think the consensus is Leicester wont look to sit back, and have done very well playing an attacking brand of football and fearing no team. They wont arrive scared or with a plan to sit back. So pick pace within the team. Play Walcott over Giroud and Gabriel over Mertesacker.

I will be dismayed, if Wenger plays Giroud and/or Mertesacker in this game.

Prepare to be dismayed - at least 50% - probably more. :?

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No doubt he will give the Captain's armband to Gunnersaurus this week for his longevity at the bowl....never missing a game etc :roll:

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OneBardGooner wrote:No doubt he will give the Captain's armband to Gunnersaurus this week for his longevity at the bowl....never missing a game etc :roll:
I honestly don't think anything angered me more than the handing Wally the armband against Chelsea. Can you honestly think of another club which would do that or indeed treats the armband so disrespectfully?

It sums up modern Arsenal under Wenger..... Fergie would have gone beserk had that happened at United.

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Spooky wrote:As my So'ton mate says "Mertersaaaakker [keown pronunc] turns slower than an oil tanker".... Vardy will show him dust - he's just so aggressive!

This is pivotal - what with Tott, and both the Mancs to come.
100% agreed. Did you see the way Vardy flicked it "around the corner" and skinned the Citeh CH last week? Can you imagine Mert trying to catch that?

Doesn't bear thinking about.... :worried:

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Wilson wrote:Agree, Wengers tactics are rubbish. Playing Gibbs as a left midfielder does not shore up the left hand side. Wenger's strengths has always been getting the players to play a fast paced passing game to overcome the opposition. But once the players cross the white line, Wenger is useless as his subs and formation shuffles do F all.

Giroud had a great period, but he has fizzled out and he needs to be hooked from the team. He needs to know he cant occupy the forward position and go 3-4 games without a goal. This is another area I am critical of Wenger - he lets complacency set in. Players need to be dropped at the first sign of poor form.

I would play Walcott upfront, with Sanchez and Chamberlain either flank. Ozil in the hole, Ramsey and Coquelin in midfield. Gabriel ahead of Mertesacker. I read of the 8 games Gabriel has played 90 minutes in, we conceded only one goal - these are stats that cannot be overlooked.

I think the consensus is Leicester wont look to sit back, and have done very well playing an attacking brand of football and fearing no team. They wont arrive scared or with a plan to sit back. So pick pace within the team. Play Walcott over Giroud and Gabriel over Mertesacker.

I will be dismayed, if Wenger plays Giroud and/or Mertesacker in this game.
Agreed Giroud has been mostly gash for weeks now.

BUT

Walcott??? :shock: He's in an even worse vein of form than Giroud and can't even run with the ball now. I'd pick Giroud only because there is some chance he might link up with Ozil or Sanchez and they might score, but Walcott is offering the team absolutely zero.

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Gabriel isn't the best defender there is, but he's miles ahead of Mertesacker

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Cech
Bellerin Gabriel Kosicleny Monreal
Coquelin Ramsey
Sanchez Ozil Chamberlain
Walcott

Much has been about Vardy's pace, but Kosicleny and Gabriel are more capable of matching Vardy's pace relative to Morgan and Huth keeping with a trio of Walcott, Sanchez and Chamberlain.

Coquelins inclusion will be massive. Its no coincidence our instability has come since Flamini was picked in the team. We were playing great until Coquelin got injured at West Brom.

Wenger simply has to give the team a chance. He needs to stop dithering on the fitness of players like Sanchez and Coquelin - both have been delayed too long. Stop Fing around and second guessing, as if we lose this game time will be out. And dont place faith in Giroud finding form again. Pick with what Leicester couldnt cope with last time, which was Theo down the middle. Its not necessary about Theo's current form, its about how his inclusion will alter the dynamics of the game. Huth and Morgan will be more comfortable with Giroud backing into them, rather than Theo playing of the shoulder.

Does Wenger have the foresight and mettle to ring these changes, or does he stick with the regulation centre half pairing and play Giroud upfront?

One things for sure, if Wenger doesnt win the title, I dont know how he can sign a new contract as the best man for the job. I dont think City will win it, as I get the feeling it wont be their year. They seem a club waiting for time to pass for Pep to arrive, and if we dont won it, then either Tottenham or Leiscter City will win it - and Wenger cant hide if that happens.

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Wilson wrote:Cech
Bellerin Gabriel Kosicleny Monreal
Coquelin Ramsey
Sanchez Ozil Chamberlain
Walcott

Much has been about Vardy's pace, but Kosicleny and Gabriel are more capable of matching Vardy's pace relative to Morgan and Huth keeping with a trio of Walcott, Sanchez and Chamberlain.

Coquelins inclusion will be massive. Its no coincidence our instability has come since Flamini was picked in the team. We were playing great until Coquelin got injured at West Brom.

Wenger simply has to give the team a chance. He needs to stop dithering on the fitness of players like Sanchez and Coquelin - both have been delayed too long. Stop Fing around and second guessing, as if we lose this game time will be out. And dont place faith in Giroud finding form again. Pick with what Leicester couldnt cope with last time, which was Theo down the middle. Its not necessary about Theo's current form, its about how his inclusion will alter the dynamics of the game. Huth and Morgan will be more comfortable with Giroud backing into them, rather than Theo playing of the shoulder.

Does Wenger have the foresight and mettle to ring these changes, or does he stick with the regulation centre half pairing and play Giroud upfront?

One things for sure, if Wenger doesnt win the title, I dont know how he can sign a new contract as the best man for the job. I dont think City will win it, as I get the feeling it wont be their year. They seem a club waiting for time to pass for Pep to arrive, and if we dont won it, then either Tottenham or Leiscter City will win it - and Wenger cant hide if that happens.
Sorry, mate - but have you watched Theo and the Ox at all this season? They change the dynamics of nothing. Theo in particular is an easy day at the office for any DM or CH. He doesn't get involved with them so no worries about a physical battle. He doesn't make the right runs in behind so no worries about his pace - just stand two yards off and he'll run into you. He has terrible ball control when running with the ball so no worries with one on ones. You simply cannot play 2 badly out of form players like Ox and Theo in the same team. Madness.

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Theo does trouble defenders. In fact his off the ball movement is one of his qualities. Theo is actually not a bad finisher, providing the finish comes quick, but otherwise yes, when he has time to pick a spot, he usually pushes a pi.. weak effort straight at the keeper.

Chamberlain scored on the weekend , and has made the papers for all the wrong reasons (namely questioning his progress and desire) - so use it to our advantage and play him because I think he will be itching to prove a point.

Giroud cannot play, when he isnt playing well, he is a light post and offers. The movement and pace of Sanchez, Walcott and Chamberlain will be our best hope.

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Walcott shouldn't be anywhere near the first team, absolute liability of a footballer, the other 10 have to work a lot harder with him on the pitch.

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