Hull (H) | FA Cup | Sat. 20th Feb. | 12:45pm

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mcdowell42 wrote:Anyone else getting pissed off with how many times Sanchez managed to give away or lose the ball ,it seems to be a feature with him.
He´s going through a bad patch. Get pissed with anyone who continually gives the ball away but he has far more plus points in the other columns.

I´d rather get pissed off with those lazy, useless plyers who contriubute little on a regular basis and bleed our club dry.

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arseofacrow wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Anyone else getting pissed off with how many times Sanchez managed to give away or lose the ball ,it seems to be a feature with him.
He´s going through a bad patch. Get pissed with anyone who continually gives the ball away but he has far more plus points in the other columns.

I´d rather get pissed off with those lazy, useless plyers who contriubute little on a regular basis and bleed our club dry.

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Maybe he felt with no creativity he had to take the mantel ? Ended up overdoing it.

Would rather he was on the end of things than another powder puff Walcott side foot.

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What was so painfully obvious was that neither Gibbs or Chambers can play the overlapping fullback role that Wenker deems is required in every game.

They possess little pace, rarely beat a man and if they do the cross is pure Shi t :banghead:

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Cannot understand why he is keeping Flamini on the pitch for the whole game when we needed a goal. Even fkn Robbie Savage recognised this.

Sanchez absolutely has to rediscover his form. We are going to need him to carry us in some games - he was really poor yesterday, almost Arshavin-esque when he was having his shit games.

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mcdowell42 wrote:Anyone else getting pissed off with how many times Sanchez managed to give away or lose the ball ,it seems to be a feature with him.
He's a world class player who is having a dip in form coming back from injury.Wally Walnutt has spent his whole career giving the ball away

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So Sanchez is immune from criticism because Walcott is shit.

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mcdowell42 wrote:So Sanchez is immune from criticism because Walcott is shit.
Not immune from criticism at all - thought he was terrible when he came on and not a lot better in recent weeks. People are more sympathetic because at least he tries to make stuff happen - he's probably trying too hard if anything - but I do agree that he's giving it away constantly and taking the 'why beat one player when five will do' approach. Having said that, our other sub 'The Ox' was so fucking awful I'd drive him to the airport right now. That shot? Perfect height, could even have brought it down and finished it.....showed all the technique of a 7 year old first learning how to shoot

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Trying to hard if anything ,is exactly how I would describe it as well,I just feel sometimes he tries to take on 1 player too many,and as for the ox enough said.

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mcdowell42 wrote:Anyone else getting pissed off with how many times Sanchez managed to give away or lose the ball ,it seems to be a feature with him.
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He's been doing it his whole career but people ignored it because he had a great first season.

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MrT wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Anyone else getting pissed off with how many times Sanchez managed to give away or lose the ball ,it seems to be a feature with him.
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He's been doing it his whole career but people ignored it because he had a great first season.
To be fair, those stats highlight that he is a forward/winger if you compare who else is up there - Kane, Costa, Mane, etc. The stat that is more worrying would probably be a successful shots on target stat.

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Tommy_Goon wrote:Cannot understand why he is keeping Flamini on the pitch for the whole game when we needed a goal. Even fkn Robbie Savage recognised this.

Sanchez absolutely has to rediscover his form. We are going to need him to carry us in some games - he was really poor yesterday, almost Arshavin-esque when he was having his shit games.

Think Flamini and Elneney were having their own game....how many times can you pass the ball backwards or sideways

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MrT wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Anyone else getting pissed off with how many times Sanchez managed to give away or lose the ball ,it seems to be a feature with him.
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He's been doing it his whole career but people ignored it because he had a great first season.


I questioned his ball retention and link up play last season why he was far and away our best player - the problem with him is that he always tries to play the game at 100 miles per hour and that will inevitably lead to instances where he loses possession through a bad touch. When he and the team are doing well we are inclined to turn a blind eye to it, but now when he and the team are not doing so well those mistakes are of an increased importance and we are all magnifying them

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With a player like Sanchez he is going to lose it more often because he actually tries to beat men - and when he does it invariably opens the opposition up. You can't feasibly persuade him to take less risks without blunting his attacking threat - the exception being the first half of the Leicester game when they coaxed us into committing men past the ball with their whole game plan revolving around winning the ball and counter attacking, where he should have been more careful.

The problem isn't the way he plays - it's just that he's not playing well enough. In a team that delights in monotonous sideways tempo-less play, I'm all for somebody who plays direct and loves running at players. Not to mention that he is immense and one of the top players in the country. No doubt he is burned out, although to what extent this justifies how badly he's playing I don't know. We don't need to change him, we just need to get him playing well again. Maybe benching him might help as it will freshen him up and he will come on against tiring defenders - and you just get that sense that he needs one good game to regain his form, that's the type of player he is. That said I would like to think I still retain a shred of sanity and the idea of him on the bench at Old Trafford or WHL with the way Walcott and Ox are playing is crazy.

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northbank123 wrote:With a player like Sanchez he is going to lose it more often because he actually tries to beat men - and when he does it invariably opens the opposition up. You can't feasibly persuade him to take less risks without blunting his attacking threat - the exception being the first half of the Leicester game when they coaxed us into committing men past the ball with their whole game plan revolving around winning the ball and counter attacking, where he should have been more careful.

The problem isn't the way he plays - it's just that he's not playing well enough. In a team that delights in monotonous sideways tempo-less play, I'm all for somebody who plays direct and loves running at players. Not to mention that he is immense and one of the top players in the country. No doubt he is burned out, although to what extent this justifies how badly he's playing I don't know. We don't need to change him, we just need to get him playing well again. Maybe benching him might help as it will freshen him up and he will come on against tiring defenders - and you just get that sense that he needs one good game to regain his form, that's the type of player he is. That said I would like to think I still retain a shred of sanity and the idea of him on the bench at Old Trafford or WHL with the way Walcott and Ox are playing is crazy.
Exactly. You''ll never see Elneny lose possession. I thought that was a latter day Ray Wilkins out there yesterday with all the sideways passes. Best do lots of that and improve the stats eh, rather than actually make something happen.

That said, Alexis has been shite of late.....but is still the man who at least fucking tries to make something happen we're going slow, slow, tap, tap, slow

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SteveO 35 wrote:
northbank123 wrote:With a player like Sanchez he is going to lose it more often because he actually tries to beat men - and when he does it invariably opens the opposition up. You can't feasibly persuade him to take less risks without blunting his attacking threat - the exception being the first half of the Leicester game when they coaxed us into committing men past the ball with their whole game plan revolving around winning the ball and counter attacking, where he should have been more careful.

The problem isn't the way he plays - it's just that he's not playing well enough. In a team that delights in monotonous sideways tempo-less play, I'm all for somebody who plays direct and loves running at players. Not to mention that he is immense and one of the top players in the country. No doubt he is burned out, although to what extent this justifies how badly he's playing I don't know. We don't need to change him, we just need to get him playing well again. Maybe benching him might help as it will freshen him up and he will come on against tiring defenders - and you just get that sense that he needs one good game to regain his form, that's the type of player he is. That said I would like to think I still retain a shred of sanity and the idea of him on the bench at Old Trafford or WHL with the way Walcott and Ox are playing is crazy.
Exactly. You''ll never see Elneny lose possession. I thought that was a latter day Ray Wilkins out there yesterday with all the sideways passes. Best do lots of that and improve the stats eh, rather than actually make something happen.

That said, Alexis has been shite of late.....but is still the man who at least fucking tries to make something happen we're going slow, slow, tap, tap, slow
Don't loose possession cause he is taking the easy way out all the time...Statistics are rubbish

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