Barca Home Tuesday 19.45

[Herd]

Ozil would have a field day in that team !

[Bradywasking]

This is a great write up

http://www.football365.com/news/mathieu ... al-present

Take the time to read this, it is spot on..

[Redarmy]

Fucking glad we moved from Highbury to compete against Europes Elite....

[StuartL]

Also should point out that Danny Alves is still one of the biggest cúnts in world football.

The Whores do like a dive and a whine of course but to see Messi waving the imaginary card at the ref was sickening. As someone that has always said he is better than the diving ladyboy at Madrid partly because on top of being a better player he has has grit and character and doesn't dive or cheat, I was disgusted to see that. He went down in my estimation. If you are that good surely you can get through life without acting the cúnt?

Messi is and always was just as much a diving, cheating c unt as any of the "galacticos". The difference with messi is hes smarter and better at it. (Just like hes smarter and better at football than pretty much everyone else) When he goes down, he stays there, doesnt roll around or aknowlege anyone. He did a nice little triple salko on the edge of our box first half, then lay there stiff as a corpse. Gust of wind did it I think.

Sorry mate but that is absolute bollocks. I've watched most of the games he's played in and he gets lumps kicked out of him and he (mostly) just keeps going, shirks off the foul and tries to play through it. Now I'm not saying he has never dived but in comparison to other culprits there is no comparison.

Flip-flopper

[northbank123]

Also should point out that Danny Alves is still one of the biggest cúnts in world football.

The Whores do like a dive and a whine of course but to see Messi waving the imaginary card at the ref was sickening. As someone that has always said he is better than the diving ladyboy at Madrid partly because on top of being a better player he has has grit and character and doesn't dive or cheat, I was disgusted to see that. He went down in my estimation. If you are that good surely you can get through life without acting the cúnt?

I don't get the hate for card-waving. It's one of these pet hates football fans have ingrained - is it really different to players telling the ref "surely that must be a yellow" or even appealing for a foul? Not to mention Sanchez is a keen proponent!

Generally I have a lot of respect for Messi because I've seen games where he is kicked off the park and just gets up and dusts himself off without a word. He was worse yesterday though i agree - that free-kick he bought (to be generous) on the edge of our box for example.

What's not to get, mate? It is disgusting and totally different to being fouled and saying to a shit ref "That was a foul". Waving the imaginary card is a step beyond that. It is the equivalent of diving and feigning injury. It's unsporting and embarrassing. The fact Sanchez has done it is immaterial to it being disgusting. No matter who does it it is wrong and should be punished.

I remember Nutty grabbing Davor Suker and bollocking him for diving early in his time with us. THAT is what football should be about. If I could change only one thing in the game I'd stamp out the cheating.

The supposedly huge difference between asking the ref to book a player with words and asking the ref to book a player by waving your hand (especially given that there is often a language barrier involved). To me the only distinction between the two is that one is traditionally associated with Johnny Foreigner.

I personally don't agree that it's akin to diving and feigning injury - the first two are trying to con the ref and cheat the other team, waving a card if just asking the ref to punish a player who the ref has already adjudged to have made a foul.

[ashford gooner]

I feel sorry for all the gooners who have tickets for the 2nd leg

Why exactly? I'm going on a massive 3-day piss up with my mates in a great city where it will be considerably warmer than England with better nightclubs. Still get to see the Arsenal during all of that, and with absolutely zero expectations.

Sounds fun but I meant the ones just going for the match

[MrT]

This has to be up there with the most braindead things Giroud as ever done, I'm struggling to find something that beats it.

https://vine.co/v/irYEqQjv61U

[g88ner]

I dunno why Im so pissed off about this defeat. I mean, we all seen it coming. From the impotency in attack due to a lack of a top striker right down to conceding with our defenders caught high up the pitch.

Not like we havent seen it before. Against good teams AND poorer teams. I know Barca are the best but any team would have scored those goals against us.

Same here. I went into the game expecting defeat and quite relaxed about the prospect but it's hard not to be frustrated and pissed off with what happened.

- on the opening goal, I'm actually most pissed off with Koscielny for his weak, non-contact approach to dealing with Suarez on the touchline. Why didn't he put in a strong challenge and prevent the pass? instead he backed off and allowed the pass to Neymar; at which point we were fucked. And where was the midfield protection???
- Pissed off with our lack of mental strength in their box. Seriously, we're supposed to be a big club capable of fighting for titles yet Chamberlain completely bottled his chance; mis-kicking it tamely to the keeper from 10 yards. It's the european cup, where great players step up... why do our chances end up at the feet of bottlejobs like Chamberlain and Bendtner? then there was Giroud passing the ball out of play when a shot on goal was on...

Wenger was spot on; naive and technically average.

[DB10GOONER]

Also should point out that Danny Alves is still one of the biggest cúnts in world football.

The Whores do like a dive and a whine of course but to see Messi waving the imaginary card at the ref was sickening. As someone that has always said he is better than the diving ladyboy at Madrid partly because on top of being a better player he has has grit and character and doesn't dive or cheat, I was disgusted to see that. He went down in my estimation. If you are that good surely you can get through life without acting the cúnt?

I don't get the hate for card-waving. It's one of these pet hates football fans have ingrained - is it really different to players telling the ref "surely that must be a yellow" or even appealing for a foul? Not to mention Sanchez is a keen proponent!

Generally I have a lot of respect for Messi because I've seen games where he is kicked off the park and just gets up and dusts himself off without a word. He was worse yesterday though i agree - that free-kick he bought (to be generous) on the edge of our box for example.

What's not to get, mate? It is disgusting and totally different to being fouled and saying to a shit ref "That was a foul". Waving the imaginary card is a step beyond that. It is the equivalent of diving and feigning injury. It's unsporting and embarrassing. The fact Sanchez has done it is immaterial to it being disgusting. No matter who does it it is wrong and should be punished.

I remember Nutty grabbing Davor Suker and bollocking him for diving early in his time with us. THAT is what football should be about. If I could change only one thing in the game I'd stamp out the cheating.

The supposedly huge difference between asking the ref to book a player with words and asking the ref to book a player by waving your hand (especially given that there is often a language barrier involved). To me the only distinction between the two is that one is traditionally associated with Johnny Foreigner.

I personally don't agree that it's akin to diving and feigning injury - the first two are trying to con the ref and cheat the other team, waving a card if just asking the ref to punish a player who the ref has already adjudged to have made a foul.

There is no difference between the card waving gesture and verbally asking for a card. They are equally bad and both should be punished. As a viewer the card waving gesture is easy to spot. Hearing a player actually say to a ref "That's a yellow" is impossible (unless you are beside them on the pitch) so we wouldn't know a player had said that, which leaves the responsibility to punish with the ref.

I would deffo place the waving card gesture (and asking verbally for a yellow) on the same level as diving and feigning injury as all are unsporting and cheating (to a certain extent in each case) and reflect badly on the sport.

[augie]

Also should point out that Danny Alves is still one of the biggest cúnts in world football.

The Whores do like a dive and a whine of course but to see Messi waving the imaginary card at the ref was sickening. As someone that has always said he is better than the diving ladyboy at Madrid partly because on top of being a better player he has has grit and character and doesn't dive or cheat, I was disgusted to see that. He went down in my estimation. If you are that good surely you can get through life without acting the cúnt?

I don't get the hate for card-waving. It's one of these pet hates football fans have ingrained - is it really different to players telling the ref "surely that must be a yellow" or even appealing for a foul? Not to mention Sanchez is a keen proponent!

Generally I have a lot of respect for Messi because I've seen games where he is kicked off the park and just gets up and dusts himself off without a word. He was worse yesterday though i agree - that free-kick he bought (to be generous) on the edge of our box for example.

What's not to get, mate? It is disgusting and totally different to being fouled and saying to a shit ref "That was a foul". Waving the imaginary card is a step beyond that. It is the equivalent of diving and feigning injury. It's unsporting and embarrassing. The fact Sanchez has done it is immaterial to it being disgusting. No matter who does it it is wrong and should be punished.

I remember Nutty grabbing Davor Suker and bollocking him for diving early in his time with us. THAT is what football should be about. If I could change only one thing in the game I'd stamp out the cheating.

The supposedly huge difference between asking the ref to book a player with words and asking the ref to book a player by waving your hand (especially given that there is often a language barrier involved). To me the only distinction between the two is that one is traditionally associated with Johnny Foreigner.

I personally don't agree that it's akin to diving and feigning injury - the first two are trying to con the ref and cheat the other team, waving a card if just asking the ref to punish a player who the ref has already adjudged to have made a foul.

There is no difference between the card waving gesture and verbally asking for a card. They are equally bad and both should be punished. As a viewer the card waving gesture is easy to spot. Hearing a player actually say to a ref "That's a yellow" is impossible (unless you are beside them on the pitch) so we wouldn't know a player had said that, which leaves the responsibility to punish with the ref.

I would deffo place the waving card gesture (and asking verbally for a yellow) on the same level as diving and feigning injury as all are unsporting and cheating (to a certain extent in each case) and reflect badly on the sport.

Lets pretend than an Arsenal player grabs an opposition player by the arm as he tries to run for a pass, and he rightly gets a yellow for it - 15 minutes later an opposition player commits the same crime and even though a free kick is awarded, the player escapes a yellow card........would the AFC player be within his rights to look for the opposition player to be booked just as his team-mate had been ? Personally I'm not sure that I could blame the AFC player for looking for a yellow in that situation

[northbank123]

It doesn't help that the vast majority of referees do not seem to have the understanding or backbone to use yellow cards properly in the PL. arbitrary rules like you can't get booked in the first 10 minutes for anything less than a maiming being one.

I've got no problem in players pointing out to the ref that it's a yellow - likewise asking for a red card although 7 or 8 players aggressively crowding the ref is different. Players and fans alike try to influence the refs decisions all game and for me there isn't a big distinction here.

[Nos89]

I'm just watching the game now in full. We had some good chances and the players made really poor decisions in vital moments especially Giroud and Chamberlain. Something that has been pointed out numerous times during this season.

Like Koeman I was surprised at the starting line up and for the return match, if all fit and well two of Campbell, Welbeck and Walcott have to start as they have pace, and are proven big game players.

Looking at the positives we made enough chances to win the game and should set up the same way in the return leg. Pique will be out of the second leg. Hopefully, the players will have learnt from their mistakes in the first leg. Ozil and Sanchez will want to step it up a gear.

[DB10GOONER]

Ozil would have a field day in that team !

Yep. Because they are all lazy too, they don't run around like a headless fuckwit, which according to some of our dumber posters is what it's all about. They like to pass intelligently, use the space economically. The lazy bastards.

Ozil must have looked at the way the Whores passed and moved and then looked at El Capitano Stupido waving his arms and yelling and running about accomplishing fuck all and thought; "What the fuck...?"

[DB10GOONER]

Lets pretend than an Arsenal player grabs an opposition player by the arm as he tries to run for a pass, and he rightly gets a yellow for it - 15 minutes later an opposition player commits the same crime and even though a free kick is awarded, the player escapes a yellow card........would the AFC player be within his rights to look for the opposition player to be booked just as his team-mate had been ? Personally I'm not sure that I could blame the AFC player for looking for a yellow in that situation

No. Not for me. There used to be an unwritten rule, a "gentlemen's agreement", an understanding between players; you didn't dive, you didn't feign injury, you didn't try and get a fellow player booked or sent off. Now, there were always a few cúnts that did some or all of those things but the vast majority (at pro and amateur level) didn't pull that shit, they acted honorably by that "gentlemen's agreement".

But nowadays it's getting more and more acceptable to cheat, dive and act unsporting. Pundits talk of "simulation" or say "he won that penalty" when the player has clearly dived. Even the responses on here indicate this acceptance. Sorry, no. That's fucking cheating. This devaluing and demeaning of decency, sportsmanship and honesty are part of a general shift in the game that I despise. Add to it the millionaire 20 year old that has won fuck all, has a social media "presence" and a line of clothing. Add to it the JCL daytripper fans that arrive late, don't chant, take selfies and leave early. Add to it morons like Robbie Savage and Chris "look at me Daddy!!" Kamara getting paid to air their frankly fucking brain-dead views. Add to that the pimping of little no-mark clubs like the chav and citeh by bored billionaire cúnts that turns these nothing (often debt riddled) none entity clubs into players on the world stage despite having no history or pedigree.

But for me far worse than the media shite and the silly money for nothing wages, it's the fucking cheating and dishonesty.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned or naive. But I honestly think as players we all have a responsibility to be honest and try and win honestly. To surmise; modern football sucks balls.

[Herd]

Yuip drawing the foul ie throwing yourself over the leg of your opponent !