As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
FFS - why do people keep saying that he's lost the dressing room???
How is that possible when most of our Nancy Boys are sheltered by him and they have been given contracts by Wenker that they would never have got anywhere else??? Their fabulous lifestyles are down to his generosity (with our money) and their continual shit performances are tolerated and excused by him.
The reason for so many shit performances is because :-
1. He's bought so many shit players
2. He allows a culture of under achievement
3. He is too fukin arrogant to see how mediocre he really is
'Who could replace Wenger' is morphing into 'why would we want Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood'.
'Who could replace Wenger' is becoming ironic. The phrase has turned into a parody of itself.
The phrase implies he is a wonderful manager doing brilliant work, and no one could replace him. Yet, if anyone wants an answer to the question, they might need to sit down, because I for one could reel of a long list of names that could easily replace him.
On SSN there was a piece from the world of rugby league whereby the team had asked the coaching staff to leave so they could sort out the half time talk. The pundit responded with something along the lines it can't be good for the manager if that happens, even though the manager had told the players to sort things out themselves after a poor first half performance in an earlier match. The pundit went onto to say, although the players took their manager's lead, being asked to leave is not good news for the coach, and it will be interesting how things play out at that club. A bit ambiguous in detail but the sum of the parts are that the same has happened at our club ~(allegedly), and we lose to Watford. The players may have lost faith in their manager but they must still be accountable to the club, the shirt and its supporters. It's not just the players who get criticised on here like bfg, theo, chamberlain, ramsey, it is all of them.
Whilst wenger gets blamed for everything from ticket pricing to matches being re-arranged for TV purposes and a change does need to happen, where are the players loyalty to us the fans, and the great club that we all support The Arsenal?
I previously said Chelsea were able to manage themselves, evident by the fact they went to a CL final with Avram Grant as caretaker, and won a CL with Di Matteo as caretaker. I never for a second believe either Grant or Di Matteo held absolute authority of Chelsea. However the Chelsea spine of Cech, Terry, Cole, Essien, Lampard, Drogba were able to manage the team from within.
We on the other hand, dont have a manager who leads the team. Wenger offers no confidence, discipline or accountability. And the player themselves have proven be to incapable of self-leadership.
We are effectively flying blind and have been for years. Whose controlling the ship? Is it Wenger? is it the club captain Arteta? Is it Mertesacker who captains the team given our club captain is a horrible player? Is it Theo as the longest serving player?
If you ask me who leads Arsenal, I couldnt in good faith offer an answer. As Wenger is the manager in name only, as Arteta is the captain in name only. We have no one pulling the team upwards. When things dont go to plan, or we lose form, its collective misery and spineless showings. Who is taking responsibilty for the recent run of horror shows? Wenger seems to be more interested in exonerating himself from the inevitable failure, rather than shouldering responsibility.
He is weak, and has installed weak minded players (so no one challenges him). Its a disaster
Gunner Rob wrote:nutflush gooner and Block93 please remember that you are now part of a small elite group of people able to ensure that Mr Wenger still has a job. I am sure that you will whole heatedly support him once again this summer.
I can't figure it out myself but if you think that he is the best man for the job then fair enough.
Hope you enjoy next season.
How pathetic you have a jibe against anyone who wants to carry on supporting the club. Who said I supported Wenger, if you actually learned how to read you would know I want Wenger out but not renewing the season ticket will not even make 0.000001% of a difference. I have said before going to football is a social occasion with me chance to catch up with mates, old work colleagues and business associates. And you have the barefaced cheek to come out with shit like this.
Even if 10,000 gooners did the same, they would be replaced by local plastics (have you seen how wealthy highbury is these days) and football tourists.
However, Wenger angrily hit back on Sunday, saying: ‘The next game is always a big challenge and you are always in the middle of a drama.
‘It is becoming a farce. We have lost a game. We are sad and we want to focus on the next game.
‘Arsenal has lost games before in history and we will lose again in the future. We will stick together and cope with it and prepare for the next one with complete belief.’
No, no, no we have not lost A game. We have lost NINE out of 11. But lets just focus on one at a time shall we.... but if we put an unbeaten run together, no matter how small, that will be mentioned ad nauseum.
He ain't going anywhere..... Delusional as ever and completely unaccountable.
Exactly. Everything in isolation for the fuckwit. Why all the angst? We've just lost our first FA cup game since 2013. As if that's why the knives are out for the prick. Fuck him, he's a liar, a charlatan and has ZERO dignity. He will claw and scrape and blame all and sundry before ever accepting responsibility himself. Can't wait until he's finally gone, I'm going on the piss for the week. Then we turn our attention to the wig wearing leach.
This is THE big chance for Arsenal FC and it's fans. The press are really starting to turn on Wonga. When we lose to Barca (badly) and likely lose to Everton next weekend, the knives will really be out. Then finish outside the top four (which looks nailed on at the moment), then Wonga resigns in anger at all the people questioning him, followed by Kranky selling the club to Usmanov for a large profit, stating that he can't believe how badly his number 1 puppet and personal dictator - Kim Wonga-Un has been treated by the 'customers of Arsenal Soccer Club'. COME ON, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!
rodders999 wrote:Exactly. Everything in isolation for the fuckwit. Why all the angst? We've just lost our first FA cup game since 2013. As if that's why the knives are out for the prick. Fuck him, he's a liar, a charlatan and has ZERO dignity. He will claw and scrape and blame all and sundry before ever accepting responsibility himself. Can't wait until he's finally gone, I'm going on the piss for the week. Then we turn our attention to the wig wearing leach.
I really think he could go at the end of the season. Main reason is: he IS now getting questioned a lot in the media, I've never seen so many articles, discussions about him and it's no longer positive. Basically every time we don't win a game for more than 2 games in a row the discourse starts anew and that can't go on indefinitely.
There's only 1 year left on the deal, not like it's 3 or 4. With no FA Cup victory to back him up into the summer, we'll be starting next season with negativity unless he goes. There's going to be an agreement reached and he will step down, take a year out and then take the France job.
Robin, there is no way he will go, no way, the judge the season at the end of the season tripe is such a clever tactic- by then the meeja have turned to cricket or the Euro chumps, all the heat has gone, the banner will not be seen. Rinse and repeat.
We know Wenger- stubbon an an mule, why would he go- middle of a divorce, cash needed Stan content- just a few keyboard warriors to ignore. We hear "the fans have turned" a few probably have but still many will bay on about all he has done for the club . No one much in the meeja is seriously questioning, just mumbling a bit- Green on 5live yesterday the usual cods about earning the right to go when he chooses
See on Radio 4 today Winterburn interviewed about him- a disgraceful choice Im afraid- he is an AFC employee or at least close- still doing ground tours. he is hardly likely to say Wenger out or even boo .
Fraid the only only way is a mass fan revolt, but just cant begin to see it sadly.
Nos89 wrote:On SSN there was a piece from the world of rugby league whereby the team had asked the coaching staff to leave so they could sort out the half time talk. The pundit responded with something along the lines it can't be good for the manager if that happens, even though the manager had told the players to sort things out themselves after a poor first half performance in an earlier match. The pundit went onto to say, although the players took their manager's lead, being asked to leave is not good news for the coach, and it will be interesting how things play out at that club. A bit ambiguous in detail but the sum of the parts are that the same has happened at our club ~(allegedly), and we lose to Watford. The players may have lost faith in their manager but they must still be accountable to the club, the shirt and its supporters. It's not just the players who get criticised on here like bfg, theo, chamberlain, ramsey, it is all of them. Whilst wenger gets blamed for everything from ticket pricing to matches being re-arranged for TV purposes and a change does need to happen, where are the players loyalty to us the fans, and the great club that we all support The Arsenal?
Maybe just maybe because he CONTINUALLY sticks his nose into those things, in fact almost EVERYTHING that doesn't concern him, while refusing to address the things that do.
Are we really getting to the end game. The papers are full of how poor we are and how the same mistakes are being repeated over and over. More importantly about who is going to replace Wenger.
Even John Cross is going down this road. I think this is the first time the papers have turned this way..........................
A tonking on Weds and I think the worm may have finally turned for good, such will be the pressure. Here's hoping.
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