THE WENGER THREAD

[GoonerMuzz]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... alan-smith

Good for Smudger.

Interestingly none of the comments are pro-Wenger at the bottom for once either, usually you get someone coming on defending him

[augie]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... alan-smith

Good for Smudger.

Top piece from smudger and it is great to see a recognised pundit suggest that it is time to remove wenger - he actually is a lot more direct in his thoughts than I would have expected from any pundit

Btw is anyone watching Ronald koeman on Monday night football tonight ? He spoke about the tactical flexibility that his team has and how they can regularly switch between playing 4-4-2 and playing with 3 centre backs, and how important it is to be able to mix things up because being only able to play one way makes it easier for the opposition teams to play against you. He referred to how he adapts his gameplan based on how the opposition sets up - basically if you were interviewing him to be manager of your team, he said everything that you would want from a manager

It should also be said that sky referred to Southampton's run of ten league games between November and January where they lost 8, drew one and won one - guess who that one win was against.........yep it was against le cock and his team of under-performing but over-paid pussies

[blair207]

Yup, nothing will change, the arsene roadshow just steams on

Enjoy the pic guys, not the football

Have to say that if Victim fans can organise a walkout that makes a point and changes things with ticket prices its about time we had the testicles to do the same. Leave 11 minutes before the end to signify the number of league nearly theres that should have beens perhaps, or just wave your kleenex tissues....

Steam on. (The flying Scotsman as in take a flying..... Arsene

A relic from a bygone age passes the workplace of a relic from a bygone age.

[xisstential]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... alan-smith

Good for Smudger.

Top piece from smudger and it is great to see a recognised pundit suggest that it is time to remove wenger - he actually is a lot more direct in his thoughts than I would have expected from any pundit

Btw is anyone watching Ronald koeman on Monday night football tonight ? He spoke about the tactical flexibility that his team has and how they can regularly switch between playing 4-4-2 and playing with 3 centre backs, and how important it is to be able to mix things up because being only able to play one way makes it easier for the opposition teams to play against you. He referred to how he adapts his gameplan based on how the opposition sets up - basically if you were interviewing him to be manager of your team, he said everything that you would want from a manager

It should also be said that sky referred to Southampton's run of ten league games between November and January where they lost 8, drew one and won one - guess who that one win was against.........yep it was against le cock and his team of under-performing but over-paid pussies

Not just a win. A proper Rodgering... 4 - 0 I believe. Yet another shameful thumping to add to the growing list. Thrashings that get airily dismissed by the great man.

[augie]

I think, and I stand to be corrected on this, but I think that only once in that poor 10 game run of results did Southampton keep a clean sheet - no prizes for guessing who that was against

[Henry Norris 1913]

going to everton on sat. mildly curious to see how much dissent i will hear against "our glorious leader", although ultimately we could finish fourth again this season, and be top at the end of october next season and we'd hear "where are those banner boys now" again from certain parts of the media. lets just see how bad things can get this season...

17th april there will be a protest starting at highbury & islington for anyone interested. hope this really happens, could be pivotal if met with the right enthusiasm.

[Theoperator]

I think, and I stand to be corrected on this, but I think that only once in that poor 10 game run of results did Southampton keep a clean sheet - no prizes for guessing who that was against

Posted in the Watford thread- any biters?

I would rate
Ranieri,
Pochettino
Flores
Bilic
Koeman
Klopp
Pellegini
benites
Hiddink
Pep

All as better and desirable replacements for Arsene. Loose Ozil and we are in BIG trouble next season IMHO. I read Ozils on 180,000 a week, so may well put in for a massive rise, hes been the difference between 8th and 4th so far

[g88ner]

I keep reading journalists and ex-players pose the (valid) question, "who could do better than Wenger?" whilst pointing out that many of the top managers are not available.

It's a fair point, but fails to grasp the real problem is that the longer Wenger holds on to his job the more promising managers who could genuinely succeed at Arsenal are being slowly snapped up by rival teams.

As an example, we now know we have likely missed out on Guardiola, Mourinho and Klopp. You could argue Pochettino is one to watch and then there's Ancelotti and Conte. Wait any longer and we will also miss out on de Boer and Simeone.

Whether Wenger goes this summer (preferably) or next, his successor should be sort now and allowed to take over whenever they like.

Personally, I'd love to see de Boer come with Bergkamp as assistant and Overmars as sporting director. Admittedly, that's said with no real knowledge of their managerial abilities, but it would be awesome

[armchair]

[g88ner]

Hmm, it's alright but it's not the same without the flip flops

[Ikechukwu1]

If you'd told Leicester fans this time last summer that the manager who won them promotion to the PL and kept them up there by the skin of their teeth was going to get sacked, do you think any of them woulda named Ranieri (sacked by Greece) as a replacement?
Thats what you're supposed to have a competent board for. Mind you when they're as "knowledgeable" as our own

Can't wait to see Wenker squirm his way outta oil-money Leicester managing with a new manager, and an 11 costing half an Ozil, succeeding where he has failed for 12 years.

[Chippy]

Nice banner, but your flies are undone....

[g88ner]

If you'd told Leicester fans this time last summer that the manager who won them promotion to the PL and kept them up there by the skin of their teeth was going to get sacked, do you think any of them woulda named Ranieri (sacked by Greece) as a replacement?
Thats what you're supposed to have a competent board for. Mind you when they're as "knowledgeable" as our own
.

But what do you take from that? -would you have been happy with Pearson or Ranieri at Arsenal, and would you want them now above Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, etc?

After all, what Leicester are 8 games away from achieving is, in my opinion, a greater achievement than anything Guardiola, Fergie, Mourinho and Wenger have ever achieved. In fact, none of them would dare take on such a challenge now that they've reached the top.

So how high should people rate Pearson and/or Ranieri? it's interesting as their stock was about zero a year ago.

[Ikechukwu1]

If you'd told Leicester fans this time last summer that the manager who won them promotion to the PL and kept them up there by the skin of their teeth was going to get sacked, do you think any of them woulda named Ranieri (sacked by Greece) as a replacement?
Thats what you're supposed to have a competent board for. Mind you when they're as "knowledgeable" as our own
.

But what do you take from that? -would you have been happy with Pearson or Ranieri at Arsenal, and would you want them now above Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, etc?

After all, what Leicester are 8 games away from achieving is, in my opinion, a greater achievement than anything Guardiola, Fergie, Mourinho and Wenger have ever achieved. In fact, none of them would dare take on such a challenge now that they've reached the top.

So how high should people rate Pearson and/or Ranieri? it's interesting as their stock was about zero a year ago.

Errrrrm. No. The overriding point of that it's plain braindead for anyone to claim there's nobody who could replace him when there's managers all over Europe on a fraction of his wages outperforming him. Look at Tuchel, look at Allegri, look at Enrique (granted amazing team but you still need to deliver) look at even Rui Vitoria etc. Without mentioning Joachim Low and so on. Fact is, when Wenker arrived here he was a nobody managing in Japan. Who is to say there isn't a superior manager managing somewhere?

[begeegs]

Errrrrm. No. The overriding point of that it's plain braindead for anyone to claim there's nobody who could replace him when there's managers all over Europe on a fraction of his wages outperforming him. Look at Tuchel, look at Allegri, look at Enrique (granted amazing team but you still need to deliver) look at even Rui Vitoria etc. Without mentioning Joachim Low and so on. Fact is, when Wenker arrived here he was a nobody managing in Japan. Who is to say there isn't a superior manager managing somewhere?

That's the thing. There are loads of managers who will do as well as Wenger. I know that Pochettino isn't popular on here, but he was punching above his weight at Southampton and Spurs recognized this and hired him. This is the sort of manager that we require - someone who is punching above his weight, like Enrique was at Celta Vigo before Barca came in. I would love Simeone, but I doubt that he would get prised away from Atletico, so we may have to settle for an up and comer, but what is wrong with that?

It won't be easy as next year there will be increased competition for the top 4 places, but it certainly makes it more exciting when you have someone who isn't that old buzzard making pre-planned substitutions at 2-0 down and not changing the shape.