Listen to yourselves

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:29 pm

Its got to be that fucking idiot Iceman.

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USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:32 pm

jambug wrote:Arsenal where in the same possition many many people have found themselves in when they take on a new and much bigger morgage. If you have ever took out a morgage then surely you understand the restraints that puts you under, especially in the first years, and even more so when the worst ression in modern times kicks in 6 months after you take out the morgage. So know there as yet hasn't been much progress but I believe under the cercumstances we have done well to hang in there.

I know you'll all disagree but sorry thats how I see it.

Actually I would say our situation is more like this - we have taken out a new more expensive mortgage as you say. BUt where we planned to trade in the family car than buy a little junker to get us were we need to go while and use the trade in money to get our finances settled down, we convince ourselves to take a flash new car whose downpayment costs our trade-in money and a buit more than that and an even more expensive car loan than we were paying before while paying a bigger mortgage than before.

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:33 pm

USMartin wrote:
jambug wrote:Arsenal where in the same possition many many people have found themselves in when they take on a new and much bigger morgage. If you have ever took out a morgage then surely you understand the restraints that puts you under, especially in the first years, and even more so when the worst ression in modern times kicks in 6 months after you take out the morgage. So know there as yet hasn't been much progress but I believe under the cercumstances we have done well to hang in there.

I know you'll all disagree but sorry thats how I see it.
Actually I would say our situation is more like this - we have taken out a new more expensive mortgage as you say. BUt where we planned to trade in the family car than buy a little junker to get us were we need to go while and use the trade in money to get our finances settled down, we convince ourselves to take a flash new car whose downpayment costs our trade-in money and a buit more than that and an even more expensive car loan than we were paying before while paying a bigger mortgage than before.

Here we fucking go again!!!!!!!!

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:35 pm

flash gunner wrote:
USMartin wrote:
jambug wrote:Arsenal where in the same possition many many people have found themselves in when they take on a new and much bigger morgage. If you have ever took out a morgage then surely you understand the restraints that puts you under, especially in the first years, and even more so when the worst ression in modern times kicks in 6 months after you take out the morgage. So know there as yet hasn't been much progress but I believe under the cercumstances we have done well to hang in there.

I know you'll all disagree but sorry thats how I see it.
Actually I would say our situation is more like this - we have taken out a new more expensive mortgage as you say. BUt where we planned to trade in the family car than buy a little junker to get us were we need to go while and use the trade in money to get our finances settled down, we convince ourselves to take a flash new car whose downpayment costs our trade-in money and a buit more than that and an even more expensive car loan than we were paying before while paying a bigger mortgage than before.

Here we fucking go again!!!!!!!!

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:38 pm

8 pages!!!!!

I think I must of touched a nerve.

Seriously a lot of great points have been made, as opposed to constantly calling me a c**t, which is a tad sad if not at times still slightly amusing in it's way.

Some of you have made me rethink the issue to a point where he is more at fault than I would of first believed but I still stand by my basic premis that it would of been a miracle to of won the PL given the money situation.

I mean as was pointed out if he'd of sold him him and him etc etc etc that would of given him Â£50 Million to spend.

Fair point but that still only matches what Chelsea spent on ONE player.

For all the validity of the point it does in itself highlight exactly what I'm saying, financial we are not in the same universe, even if we sell half a dozen players we only raise what Chelsea risked on an out of form, possibly injury prone player!!

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:41 pm

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:42 pm

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:46 pm

According to Wenger's cult we have the best youth policy in the world, there's never been anyone better throughout history at 'making a superstar' out of an african, our scouting system is worldwide and this is his best ever squad.

I'm sure with all that in mind and Wenger being the uber-intelligent economist that he is, Â£50 mill needn't be spent on just one player.

He nutures a losing mentality around the club, that is nothing to do with finances.

Post by **HashKads** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:47 pm

The sun has got his hat on, hip hip hip hooray, the sun has got his hat on so will you please just fuck off.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:48 pm

jambug wrote:8 pages!!!!!

I think I must of touched a nerve.

Seriously a lot of great points have been made, as opposed to constantly calling me a c**t, which is a tad sad if not at times still slightly amusing in it's way.

Some of you have made me rethink the issue to a point where he is more at fault than I would of first believed but I still stand by my basic premis that it would of been a miracle to of won the PL given the money situation.

I mean as was pointed out if he'd of sold him him and him etc etc etc that would of given him Â£50 Million to spend.

Fair point but that still only matches what Chelsea spent on ONE player.

For all the validity of the point it does in itself highlight exactly what I'm saying, financial we are not in the same universe, even if we sell half a dozen players we only raise what Chelsea risked on an out of form, possibly injury prone player!!

8 pages thats nothing now we have US MARTY on board

god knows where it will stop

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:48 pm

jambug wrote:
The point is that if he had of won the PL during the last 6 years it would of been an absolute miracle considering the financial might he was up against.

And thats the point..it would of been a MIRACLE.

So what does that make the three in a row that "Fergie" got?!?

Manu competed with and battered chelsea with hardly any 'financial might'.

Carrick, Â£18m, Nani, Â£14m, Hargreaves, Â£16m, Tevez on loan, the twins Â£5m, Berbatov Â£30m.

That's the transfers in to OldT since summer 2006. Unless I've forgotten some.

So maybe Â£100m plus wages in 5 years.

We could and should have been able to compete with that.

Wonder how much money ManU got out of three Premier League titles in a row???

I think it was worth it.

We could easily have spent Â£10m extra every window on players that we needed and then seen the results. The Board stated many times that Wenger has/had money to spend.

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:51 pm

jambug wrote:Blimey Babu.

Not just fell off but jumped up and down on, smothered in petrol and set alight!!!!

Why not go the whole hog and make a bonfire in the back garden of all things Arsene!!

You know you'll feel better for it!

Fuck!

How do you know about my Arsene Wenger Guy Fawkes doll?

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:53 pm

mcdowell42 wrote:
jambug wrote:8 pages!!!!!

I think I must of touched a nerve.

Seriously a lot of great points have been made, as opposed to constantly calling me a c**t, which is a tad sad if not at times still slightly amusing in it's way.

Some of you have made me rethink the issue to a point where he is more at fault than I would of first believed but I still stand by my basic premis that it would of been a miracle to of won the PL given the money situation.

I mean as was pointed out if he'd of sold him him and him etc etc etc that would of given him Â£50 Million to spend.

Fair point but that still only matches what Chelsea spent on ONE player.

For all the validity of the point it does in itself highlight exactly what I'm saying, financial we are not in the same universe, even if we sell half a dozen players we only raise what Chelsea risked on an out of form, possibly injury prone player!!

8 pages thats nothing now we have US MARTY on board god knows where it will stop

Hopefully Jambug wont fall for Martys fishing trip

Sutch · Post by **Sutch** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:53 pm

When I saw the bits "proud of the way our club is run" "we don't have money to spend" "go support the bank of russia" or whatever it was, i couldn't help but collapse in a fit of hyseria every time.

I'm not even going to bother going into that shit, but this twat is obviously a Wenger cultist who can't think for himself and is brainwashed by that senile fool or as Quartz said, Pancho in a return. I could just imagine this guy saying all that shit and insulting everyone in one of the pubs around the ground

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:53 pm

You forgot Rooney Â£30 Million. Rio Â£30 Million.

Just because they wasn't bought in the last 5/6 years you cant ignore them as if they was magiced out of thin air.

Fergie is a genius but a genius with bucket loads of cash. Dont prtend otherwise.