interlull Euro qualifiers

[casgooner]

Wow Holland are losing 2 nil and won't make the play offs as things stand.

[Henry Norris 1913]

RVP with an own goal

almost feel sorry for the *word censored*, having a shit time in turkey with a fenerbahce, missing out on the euros with holland.

oh well

[casgooner]

RVP with an own goal

almost feel sorry for the *word censored*, having a shit time in turkey with a fenerbahce, missing out on the euros with holland.

oh well

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

[mcdowell42]

Lol, poor old Robin.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I'm not standing up for international football here or anything, but some of you are very blinkered in what you are suggesting -

1. Play all international qualifiers over 1 year - can you imagine the amount of disruption that would cause in a domestic season ? Yes there would be fewer games, but they would be a lot more condensed and we would have international breaks every month or 6 weeks.

2. Make all the "weaker" countries play pre qualifiers - that is slightly arrogant but very much narrow minded. For example lets use ramsey's situation - up until this campaign wales would have been one of the weaker countries, so in theory we would be losing ramsey for a lot more games and for longer periods. Now I know most of you wouldn't mind that happening this season, but can you imagine the uproar it would have caused if ramsey had of missed a chunk of games a few seasons and would have required a lot more rest ? It is easy for fans of the English national team to suggest this plan, but I look at some of the players in our history that played for some of the so called weaker countries, and missing great chunks of games would have hit our club hard.

I understand the complaints about too many weaker countries and I totally agree that extending the finals to 24 teams is ludicrous and cheapens the competition, but finding a solution requires much more thought than just going with the obvious freezing weaker countries out. I also think that weaker countries AND their players, can only improve by playing against better opposition and better players and that in turn improves the standard all round

I knew it would be England's fault

There's a thread in the basement for that

[augie]

Thats not what I am saying lefty and you know that - the point I am trying to make is that it is easy for the so called "elite" countries like engerland to suggest a plan that would see a pre-qualifying system implimented for the weaker countries, because they dont realise the implications that it would have. These countries are dependent on the revenue generated from these big games so that they can invest more in facilities, coaching etc.

[Nos89]

Disappointed for Cyprus, looks like nerves got the better of them. So unusual to be going to last game with a chance of qualifying for something.
Good luck to Republic of Ireland in the knockout qualifier.
If Germany, Spain, France had finished with a100% record everyone would be salivating and making them odds on favourites. England will do better than they have done in years at the Euros 2016. I'm looking forward to it, think with 24 teams they'll be a few surprises.

[casgooner]

Disappointed for Cyprus, looks like nerves got the better of them. So unusual to be going to last game with a chance of qualifying for something.
Good luck to Republic of Ireland in the knockout qualifier.
If Germany, Spain, France had finished with a100% record everyone would be salivating and making them odds on favourites. England will do better than they have done in years at the Euros 2016. I'm looking forward to it, think with 24 teams they'll be a few surprises.

I don't think England look good at all and I think they will be found wanting against superior opposition to the group teams. On another note, how can Wales be ahead of England in the rankings when they haven't got to a major competition in years until now and England haven't lost a match in qualifying. Wales are 8th, really? Makes a farce of the system.

[northbank123]

England generally qualify as well as anybody.

Might do them some good to have a couple of gentle group games to get a few results under their belt in the expanded format. Whilst I still wouldn't back them come crunch time, they haven't given themselves any momentum or starts in the last few tournaments.

Options at CM are dire mind.

[Sean]

I don't think England look good at all and I think they will be found wanting against superior opposition to the group teams. On another note, how can Wales be ahead of England in the rankings when they haven't got to a major competition in years until now and England haven't lost a match in qualifying. Wales are 8th, really? Makes a farce of the system.

Because all of England's games are dead rubbers and Wales have over-achieved for their group seeding. It all counts in the world ranking points.

Another reason why England games are all shite (ITV ) - No competition, until they meet a proper side. That's why winning 10 out of 10 means fuck all. We did well in qualifying under Mussolini (Capello) and look how that ended in WC2010. In fact we're even worse at tournaments under Woy (And I have nothing against him).

With the PL happy to whore themselves as the world league, British kids will not make the first team making the home nations unable to compete with the best. England are sinking to where the other home nations are, instead of being far and away the highest of them in the rankings, as they were a decade ago.

There should be a quota system for foreigners (like 5 per club) but it will never happen, hence the home nations are doomed to be also rans and internationals have become meaningless.

Internationals are fucking shit. The PL has killed them. End of story.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Thats not what I am saying lefty and you know that - the point I am trying to make is that it is easy for the so called "elite" countries like engerland to suggest a plan that would see a pre-qualifying system implimented for the weaker countries, because they dont realise the implications that it would have. These countries are dependent on the revenue generated from these big games so that they can invest more in facilities, coaching etc.

Stand by your convictions oirishman

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I don't think England look good at all and I think they will be found wanting against superior opposition to the group teams. On another note, how can Wales be ahead of England in the rankings when they haven't got to a major competition in years until now and England haven't lost a match in qualifying. Wales are 8th, really? Makes a farce of the system.

Because all of England's games are dead rubbers and Wales have over-achieved for their group seeding. It all counts in the world ranking points.

Another reason why England games are all shite (ITV ) - No competition, until they meet a proper side. That's why winning 10 out of 10 means fuck all. We did well in qualifying under Mussolini (Capello) and look how that ended in WC2010. In fact we're even worse at tournaments under Woy (And I have nothing against him).

With the PL happy to whore themselves as the world league, British kids will not make the first team making the home nations unable to compete with the best. England are sinking to where the other home nations are, instead of being far and away the highest of them in the rankings, as they were a decade ago.

There should be a quota system for foreigners (like 5 per club) but it will never happen, hence the home nations are doomed to be also rans and internationals have become meaningless.

Internationals are fucking shit. The PL has killed them. End of story.

You missed a trick there mate, had you finished that sentence with FACT people would take you more seriously

[arseofacrow]

I don't think England look good at all and I think they will be found wanting against superior opposition to the group teams. On another note, how can Wales be ahead of England in the rankings when they haven't got to a major competition in years until now and England haven't lost a match in qualifying. Wales are 8th, really? Makes a farce of the system.

Because all of England's games are dead rubbers and Wales have over-achieved for their group seeding. It all counts in the world ranking points.

Another reason why England games are all shite (ITV ) - No competition, until they meet a proper side. That's why winning 10 out of 10 means fuck all. We did well in qualifying under Mussolini (Capello) and look how that ended in WC2010. In fact we're even worse at tournaments under Woy (And I have nothing against him).

With the PL happy to whore themselves as the world league, British kids will not make the first team making the home nations unable to compete with the best. England are sinking to where the other home nations are, instead of being far and away the highest of them in the rankings, as they were a decade ago.

There should be a quota system for foreigners (like 5 per club) but it will never happen, hence the home nations are doomed to be also rans and internationals have become meaningless.

Internationals are fucking shit. The PL has killed them. End of story.

You missed a trick there mate, had you finished that sentence with FACT people would take you more seriously

Sean's just getting a few things off his tits. Only augie has managed to sustain a herculean level of moderate to high outrage.

[Sean]

It is a [benitez]FACHT[/benitez]

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I don't think England look good at all and I think they will be found wanting against superior opposition to the group teams. On another note, how can Wales be ahead of England in the rankings when they haven't got to a major competition in years until now and England haven't lost a match in qualifying. Wales are 8th, really? Makes a farce of the system.

Because all of England's games are dead rubbers and Wales have over-achieved for their group seeding. It all counts in the world ranking points.

Another reason why England games are all shite (ITV ) - No competition, until they meet a proper side. That's why winning 10 out of 10 means fuck all. We did well in qualifying under Mussolini (Capello) and look how that ended in WC2010. In fact we're even worse at tournaments under Woy (And I have nothing against him).

With the PL happy to whore themselves as the world league, British kids will not make the first team making the home nations unable to compete with the best. England are sinking to where the other home nations are, instead of being far and away the highest of them in the rankings, as they were a decade ago.

There should be a quota system for foreigners (like 5 per club) but it will never happen, hence the home nations are doomed to be also rans and internationals have become meaningless.

Internationals are fucking shit. The PL has killed them. End of story.

You missed a trick there mate, had you finished that sentence with FACT people would take you more seriously

Sean's just getting a few things off his tits. Only augie has managed to sustain a herculean level of moderate to high outrage.

Indeed he has, although we may have a contender.....