As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
NEW: Arsenal are monitoring the situation of Oleksandr Zinchenko who could be available in the summer. Arteta believes Zinchenko is the best alternative to compete with Tierney while Nuno has been awful for the past couple of weeks after Tierney was sidelined for Knee injury.#afc https://t.co/JGHdBo6szL
Man U and the Chavs must be gutted now Arteta's our manager, as they usually had first dibs to send us all their cast offs. Now it seems like City have that benefit - Jesus, Zinchenko
So now Gabriel is being linked with Juventus and Juventus are going to 'tempt' Arsenal with a 35m offer.
Why do clubs like West Ham get players like Rice quoted for 100-150m and Bowen for 80m ect? Kane was quoted at 150m as a 28 year old. Harry Maguires actual fee was 80m, James Maddison was linked to us for 60m. Wan Bissaka bought 50m.
All these extreme fees. But when an Arsenal player is linked away, the price is always ridiculous and comical. Why would we sell Gabriel for 35m when we bought White for 50m? Why dont Juventus have to spent between 60-80m if they want Gabriel? Why do the papers always link Saka to Liverpool but not mention the fact he would cost over well over 100m using Grealish as a relative reference? The very friendly Liverpool echo has quoted Saka at 50m as a fair offer Liverpool should make.
Its lowkey, but if you bother to read the transfer gossip, we are shit on daily like you wouldn't believe. Every time a rumour gets invented, if its an Arsenal player the fee quoted is modest to the extreme.
So now Gabriel is being linked with Juventus and Juventus are going to 'tempt' Arsenal with a 35m offer.
Why do clubs like West Ham get players like Rice quoted for 100-150m and Bowen for 80m ect? Kane was quoted at 150m as a 28 year old. Harry Maguires actual fee was 80m, James Maddison was linked to us for 60m. Wan Bissaka bought 50m.
All these extreme fees. But when an Arsenal player is linked away, the price is always ridiculous and comical. Why would we sell Gabriel for 35m when we bought White for 50m? Why dont Juventus have to spent between 60-80m if they want Gabriel? Why do the papers always link Saka to Liverpool but not mention the fact he would cost over well over 100m using Grealish as a relative reference? The very friendly Liverpool echo has quoted Saka at 50m as a fair offer Liverpool should make.
Its lowkey, but if you bother to read the transfer gossip, we are shit on daily like you wouldn't believe. Every time a rumour gets invented, if its an Arsenal player the fee quoted is modest to the extreme.
It's because the club has been pleading poverty for years as we dither over purchasing . The statements from the board that we have to balance our books are well advertised and so everyone concludes that will sell cheap because we need the money. Throughout Europe we are seen as a soft touch , look at the way players have left us recently . Aubameyang , Sokratis , Bellerin , Torriera , the give away list is endless . They have or will be going for nothing like what we could have got for them and now it looks like Pepewill join the list as well and again nowhere near the price we paid for him.
As much as we moan about Arteta the boardroom is where the chaos starts and perhaps their ineptness is more damaging.
So now Gabriel is being linked with Juventus and Juventus are going to 'tempt' Arsenal with a 35m offer.
Why do clubs like West Ham get players like Rice quoted for 100-150m and Bowen for 80m ect? Kane was quoted at 150m as a 28 year old. Harry Maguires actual fee was 80m, James Maddison was linked to us for 60m. Wan Bissaka bought 50m.
All these extreme fees. But when an Arsenal player is linked away, the price is always ridiculous and comical. Why would we sell Gabriel for 35m when we bought White for 50m? Why dont Juventus have to spent between 60-80m if they want Gabriel? Why do the papers always link Saka to Liverpool but not mention the fact he would cost over well over 100m using Grealish as a relative reference? The very friendly Liverpool echo has quoted Saka at 50m as a fair offer Liverpool should make.
Its lowkey, but if you bother to read the transfer gossip, we are shit on daily like you wouldn't believe. Every time a rumour gets invented, if its an Arsenal player the fee quoted is modest to the extreme.
The players you refer to there all fall in under the "english player transfer tax" system where english players always cost more than a foreign player of similar ability - that is nothing to do with our board, edu, pep's cone boy or the time of the year.
Whilst I agree with your English player premium , I still believe that the board and our player purchasers have been culpable of making our own misfortune . We have given so many poor contracts as we chased the Champion's league dragon that we are losing money hands over fist as we latterly try to shft players that for whatever reason didn't work out either by a lack of dilligence , listening to agents , poor selection or mismanagement of players . It all adds up to a period of chaos that started at the top.
Whilst I agree with your English player premium , I still believe that the board and our player purchasers have been culpable of making our own misfortune . We have given so many poor contracts as we chased the Champion's league dragon that we are losing money hands over fist as we latterly try to shft players that for whatever reason didn't work out either by a lack of dilligence , listening to agents , poor selection or mismanagement of players . It all adds up to a period of chaos that started at the top.
Agreed, and watch and see the club as they hand out at least 3 more over the coming months (pep's cone boy, xhaka and either laca or nketieh) - you have to wonder what reasoning the people making these decisions can come up with
Its been happening for years - this is the club remember that managed to sell Fabregas in the same window to Barcelona for less than what Newcastle sold Andy Carroll for to Liverpool
The only vaguely decent sales I can recall have been Iwobi, Walcott and Willock
Its been happening for years - this is the club remember that managed to sell Fabregas in the same window to Barcelona for less than what Newcastle sold Andy Carroll for to Liverpool
The only vaguely decent sales I can recall have been Iwobi, Walcott and Willock
The scouse clubs have been the only ones we've managed to fleece, Feo and Iwobi to Everton and we proper really pulled the victims pants down with the 35 million we got for the Ox who only had 12 months left on his contract at the time. He's barely kicked a ball for them.
So now Gabriel is being linked with Juventus and Juventus are going to 'tempt' Arsenal with a 35m offer.
Why do clubs like West Ham get players like Rice quoted for 100-150m and Bowen for 80m ect? Kane was quoted at 150m as a 28 year old. Harry Maguires actual fee was 80m, James Maddison was linked to us for 60m. Wan Bissaka bought 50m.
All these extreme fees. But when an Arsenal player is linked away, the price is always ridiculous and comical. Why would we sell Gabriel for 35m when we bought White for 50m? Why dont Juventus have to spent between 60-80m if they want Gabriel? Why do the papers always link Saka to Liverpool but not mention the fact he would cost over well over 100m using Grealish as a relative reference? The very friendly Liverpool echo has quoted Saka at 50m as a fair offer Liverpool should make.
Its lowkey, but if you bother to read the transfer gossip, we are shit on daily like you wouldn't believe. Every time a rumour gets invented, if its an Arsenal player the fee quoted is modest to the extreme.
Heard klopp was in for 15m joint bid for saka, ESR and Martinelli. Goal.com. dont shit your britches!
So now Gabriel is being linked with Juventus and Juventus are going to 'tempt' Arsenal with a 35m offer.
Why do clubs like West Ham get players like Rice quoted for 100-150m and Bowen for 80m ect? Kane was quoted at 150m as a 28 year old. Harry Maguires actual fee was 80m, James Maddison was linked to us for 60m. Wan Bissaka bought 50m.
All these extreme fees. But when an Arsenal player is linked away, the price is always ridiculous and comical. Why would we sell Gabriel for 35m when we bought White for 50m? Why dont Juventus have to spent between 60-80m if they want Gabriel? Why do the papers always link Saka to Liverpool but not mention the fact he would cost over well over 100m using Grealish as a relative reference? The very friendly Liverpool echo has quoted Saka at 50m as a fair offer Liverpool should make.
Its lowkey, but if you bother to read the transfer gossip, we are shit on daily like you wouldn't believe. Every time a rumour gets invented, if its an Arsenal player the fee quoted is modest to the extreme.
Heard klopp was in for 15m joint bid for saka, ESR and Martinelli. Goal.com. dont shit your britches!
Its been happening for years - this is the club remember that managed to sell Fabregas in the same window to Barcelona for less than what Newcastle sold Andy Carroll for to Liverpool
The only vaguely decent sales I can recall have been Iwobi, Walcott and Willock
The scouse clubs have been the only ones we've managed to fleece, Feo and Iwobi to Everton and we proper really pulled the victims pants down with the 35 million we got for the Ox who only had 12 months left on his contract at the time. He's barely kicked a ball for them.
Its something that needs to be fixed. I dont like the fact other clubs feel below market bids are good enough. I understand for players we dont want to keep. Leno will go cheap, so will the loanees Bellerin, Torriera, Geuendozi (never learnt to spell this guys name). But Saka, Martinelli, ESR and Gabriel are really going to be hot tickets in years to come - and we should never sell, but at the minimum the interested clubs should be under no illusion they will need to break their arm off to sign anyone of them.
The one thing Wenger did that left be exasperated was the way he conducted himself in the sale of RVP to Man United. Yes RVP had a year left on his contract and didnt want to sign a new deal. But Wenger saying to Ferguson 'you have no idea how good a player you are getting', and basically making the deal go smoothly was borderline treason. We should have held the deal back and asked for an extra 5m, and if they offered the money ask for another 3m on top of that. We should have stonewalled and made Man United more worried about not getting him more than we feared losing him on a free. I had lost faith in Wenger by then but the way he rolled over for Ferguson was when I realized he wasn't even competitive in his own mindset.
Mind you I think the club are well aware of the value of our players. We paid 50m for White, and bombed 72m on Pepe. You dont pay 50m for White and sell Saka for the same amount, anymore than you would pay 15k for a Toyota for sell your Tesla for the same amount.
But clubs do see us as a soft touch in the transfer market when it comes to selling players. Just look at Villa and their joke bid for ESR. Of course it was a ridiculous bid with no chance of succeeding, but the fact they thought they could get away with selling Grealish for 100m and buying ESR for 30m in the same transfer window showed how they viewed us.
Arsenal are making ‘very serious efforts’ to sign Bayer Leverkusen winger Moussa Diaby & will push ahead with a move if they qualify for the Champions League. Should Diaby ‘force the transfer’, Leverkusen would be ‘willing to talk’ for €75m. [@SPORTBILD via @Sport_Witness] #afc https://t.co/vdhGFidbGK
