The Patrick Vieira Thread

[djhdjh]

----------------------Almunia------------------------
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-----------------Djourou--------Gallas------------------
---Sagna----------------------------------Clichy----
-----------------------Vieira-------------------------
-------------Cesc-------------Rosicky---------------
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---------Rvp---------------------------AA-----------
--------------------Euardo----------------------------

OK there you go just with Vieira added to what we have.

What about Eddie?

Rosicky is no central midfielder and can't be relied on for more than 0 games a season.

[Bergkamp-Genius]

The current Vieira is a weak link in that team!

It's possible i've got my tints on, but even so neither you or i will know for sure just what he has to offer until we actually see him playing for us, at the moment you can only guess and i'm afraid with the shite we have in there at the moment unless AW buys a top quality DCM i'd rather see what Paddy has still got, than go again with Song or Denilson as first choice.

I think he could do a job physically and more importantly he would give us the leadership we have lacked since he left, the guys a winner, that rubs off on those around him, not to mention he would be a huge bonus with regards aerial presence from set pieces against us.

[Robsy]

I smell Billy Bullshit with a wiff of Wrighty across it.

[Bergkamp-Genius]

----------------------Almunia------------------------
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-----------------Djourou--------Gallas------------------
---Sagna----------------------------------Clichy----
-----------------------Vieira-------------------------
-------------Cesc-------------Rosicky---------------
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---------Rvp---------------------------AA-----------
--------------------Euardo----------------------------

OK there you go just with Vieira added to what we have.

What about Eddie?

Rosicky is no central midfielder and can't be relied on for more than 0 games a season.

Really, not a central midfielder, perhaps you better tell him that and the Czech coach and the Sparta coach and the Dortmund coach, because thats pretty much the role he played for them all, attacking central midfielder, it's Wenger that stuck him out on the left.

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

Just then left nut then Its Up 4 Grabs Now, you forgot to bold an S.

I just double-checked & both nuts are fully intact #5! The bold "s" is in there..: "Cesc worked well with...". Had me worried for a minute!

Firstly unreserved apologies, how could I ever have knowingly doubted you, if I'm fortunate, you will forgive me.

No worries you c.u.n.t..

[Number 5]

Just then left nut then Its Up 4 Grabs Now, you forgot to bold an S.

I just double-checked & both nuts are fully intact #5! The bold "s" is in there..: "Cesc worked well with...". Had me worried for a minute!

Firstly unreserved apologies, how could I ever have knowingly doubted you, if I'm fortunate, you will forgive me.

Very agressive post my grinning friend... again...

So unexpected DB10, kind sir I must yield before all hell breaks loose.

[Swale_Gooner1985]

He would do a better job then Song, Denilson and Diaby put together though, and maybe, just maybe having someone like Paddy in the squad would make those donkeys better players for the future, because nwither of them are good enough to help our team challenge for honors...

Rubbish, read my post above - he would be good for their development granted - but Vieira would not cut it in the Premiership anymore, he would be nothing more than a squad player at best. As AT says, he was on the decline in 2005 due to the sort of awesome game he used to play and the injuries took their toll - he could not reproduce that anymore, hence why he went to a slower league.

Sorry bdb, but i aint got the same WengerGoggles on as you. Vieira's experiance at the top level makes him start ahead of all those in my book.

Song is not and will not be good enough tp start games for us in the coming season, he is to slow and is nowhere near good enough to face up to the essien's, carrick's and Mascherano's of this league.

Denilson, is a good young player with decent potential (theres that word again) but was he not brought in as an attacking midfielder? What the fuck is he doing playing in a holding rold when he can not tackle properly??? what match is he to the top midfielder in this leage??

Diaby....No comment.....

Get them goggles off mate and have a look into reality. This squad is worse off then it was last summer, and if he dont get his finger out, we all know what will happen.

Its nothing to do with Wenger goggles tho has it? And i wasnt mentioning anything about the current squad, im saying Vieira is not the answer.

Vieira was probably the best Midfielder in the world in his prime, but he has long since past that. Song and Denilson could add more to a centre midfield that Vieria could nowdays over the course of a season, and Vieira would be overrun by a lot of CMs in the Premiership, the pace of the game would be too much for him, just as it was when he came back for Juve a few years ago.

Fantastic player, but not what we need. As i say him coming would have small merits, we do have problems in the sqaud, but Vieira won't solve any of them.

He might not be the answer, but if we can bring him back, get 2 good seasons out of him and use his influence to make the other 3 better players, AND MAYBE SHOW THE c**ts WHAT IT MEANS TO PLAY FOR ARSENAL.

All the weknesses you mention in Vieira we have the exact same problems with the current midfield , they got overrun by other midfields and the pace of the game is already to fast for song and denilson, Vieira would do a better job then both.

PLus we get a player back with whom the fans had a fucking amaizng bond. He knows what it means to be a gooner, maybe he can show some of the current crop...

I'm sorry Mike, but what a load fo piss you have spoken in this thread...can you not understand that Vieira has now declined as a footballer and he wouldnt bring anything to this current side...saying a past it Vieira is better than Denilson or Song is silly talk

You keep going on about take your Arsenal goggles off, maybe you should take off your Vieira goggles, and stop telling yourself that the same team we had in 2003 can play now and do the same job...it doesnt work like that mate, if it did people would be fighting to sign Maradonna and Pele, they were fairly good, not sure they would be now though!

You need to stop living in the past, times change and Vieira without doubt has declined, if we sign him, which i dont believe we will, it would be a step back in my opinion!

as for that team someone has posted on here? what a load of tosh! Rosicky isnt going to play in a central position unless its behind a forward, where the hell has Alex come from all of a sudden? and to have Vieira in there and say its perfect is a joke!

[SCREAM AIM FIRE]

dont think cesc would be too happy if this happend

[Bergkamp-Genius]

Rubbish, read my post above - he would be good for their development granted - but Vieira would not cut it in the Premiership anymore, he would be nothing more than a squad player at best. As AT says, he was on the decline in 2005 due to the sort of awesome game he used to play and the injuries took their toll - he could not reproduce that anymore, hence why he went to a slower league.

Sorry bdb, but i aint got the same WengerGoggles on as you. Vieira's experiance at the top level makes him start ahead of all those in my book.

Song is not and will not be good enough tp start games for us in the coming season, he is to slow and is nowhere near good enough to face up to the essien's, carrick's and Mascherano's of this league.

Denilson, is a good young player with decent potential (theres that word again) but was he not brought in as an attacking midfielder? What the fuck is he doing playing in a holding rold when he can not tackle properly??? what match is he to the top midfielder in this leage??

Diaby....No comment.....

Get them goggles off mate and have a look into reality. This squad is worse off then it was last summer, and if he dont get his finger out, we all know what will happen.

Its nothing to do with Wenger goggles tho has it? And i wasnt mentioning anything about the current squad, im saying Vieira is not the answer.

Vieira was probably the best Midfielder in the world in his prime, but he has long since past that. Song and Denilson could add more to a centre midfield that Vieria could nowdays over the course of a season, and Vieira would be overrun by a lot of CMs in the Premiership, the pace of the game would be too much for him, just as it was when he came back for Juve a few years ago.

Fantastic player, but not what we need. As i say him coming would have small merits, we do have problems in the sqaud, but Vieira won't solve any of them.

He might not be the answer, but if we can bring him back, get 2 good seasons out of him and use his influence to make the other 3 better players, AND MAYBE SHOW THE c**ts WHAT IT MEANS TO PLAY FOR ARSENAL.

All the weknesses you mention in Vieira we have the exact same problems with the current midfield , they got overrun by other midfields and the pace of the game is already to fast for song and denilson, Vieira would do a better job then both.

PLus we get a player back with whom the fans had a fucking amaizng bond. He knows what it means to be a gooner, maybe he can show some of the current crop...

I'm sorry Mike, but what a load fo piss you have spoken in this thread...can you not understand that Vieira has now declined as a footballer and he wouldnt bring anything to this current side...saying a past it Vieira is better than Denilson or Song is silly talk

You keep going on about take your Arsenal goggles off, maybe you should take off your Vieira goggles, and stop telling yourself that the same team we had in 2003 can play now and do the same job...it doesnt work like that mate, if it did people would be fighting to sign Maradonna and Pele, they were fairly good, not sure they would be now though!

You need to stop living in the past, times change and Vieira without doubt has declined, if we sign him, which i dont believe we will, it would be a step back in my opinion!

as for that team someone has posted on here? what a load of tosh! Rosicky isnt going to play in a central position unless its behind a forward, where the hell has Alex come from all of a sudden? and to have Vieira in there and say its perfect is a joke!

Well your opinion is flawed, fatally in most peoples opinion, not counting your multiple personalities of course.

Rosicky played in a central position before he came to us and it certainly wasn't the Bergkamp role, he's a midfield player, maybe we could put Song in the Bergkamp role instead, he's top quality

It was deemed to be perfect in comparison to the shite that you spend most of your time bumming up, you know the shite that could barely string 3 passes together for half the season Denilson Song Eboue Diaby, you know your heroes..the guys that were the driving force behind us putting up such a strong challenge for fourth place last season.
Of course saying all that i would much rather have Cattermole than Vieira, he's also top quality.

[Lethal]

does anyone seriously think that denilson is better then pat now ?

seriously

[Mikegooner87i]

does anyone seriously think that denilson is better then pat now ?

seriously

yep... swale obviously...

[T.S]

I think this is immensely interesting, mainly because of how much it will divide Arsenal fans. I don't think anyone would be sad to see PV4 sign, but I think it's fascinating to see how differently people view it. For what it's worth, here's what I think...

First of all, I don't really believe this story. I think it's Ian Wright just trying to get himself a bit of publicity. He's a columnist for The Sun, so I think he's had a fair bit of practice at making stuff up. I honestly would be gob-smacked if we went and signed Paddy. With that said, you won't hear me complaining if we do. You can argue that he's past it, and while it's certainly true that he will not be the great player he was, he would definitely add proven quality to the squad. I saw someone compare him to Maradona and Pele earlier on, and that's ridiculous. They have long since retired. Vieira, on the other hand, is the current captain of the French national team.

Don't forget, Makalele signed for Chelsea when he was 32, and went on to become one of the most solid and reliable players in the Premier League. Now, I'm not saying that PV4 would be able to hit the heights he used to, but to suggest that he wouldn't be a useful addition is, in my opinion, wrong. He would provide a lift for the fans (I remember 70,000 fans singing his song at Wembley. It used to give me goosebumps) and would hopefully provide invaluable experience and guidance to the likes of Denilson, Song and Diaby.

With all of that said, I would like to see us go for someone younger. Maybe around the age of 27. However, no one immediately springs to mind, so, as far as I'm concerned, we could do a lot worse than Paddy.

However, I'm convinced this is all bull shit. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

[Swale_Gooner1985]

Sorry bdb, but i aint got the same WengerGoggles on as you. Vieira's experiance at the top level makes him start ahead of all those in my book.

Song is not and will not be good enough tp start games for us in the coming season, he is to slow and is nowhere near good enough to face up to the essien's, carrick's and Mascherano's of this league.

Denilson, is a good young player with decent potential (theres that word again) but was he not brought in as an attacking midfielder? What the fuck is he doing playing in a holding rold when he can not tackle properly??? what match is he to the top midfielder in this leage??

Diaby....No comment.....

Get them goggles off mate and have a look into reality. This squad is worse off then it was last summer, and if he dont get his finger out, we all know what will happen.

Its nothing to do with Wenger goggles tho has it? And i wasnt mentioning anything about the current squad, im saying Vieira is not the answer.

Vieira was probably the best Midfielder in the world in his prime, but he has long since past that. Song and Denilson could add more to a centre midfield that Vieria could nowdays over the course of a season, and Vieira would be overrun by a lot of CMs in the Premiership, the pace of the game would be too much for him, just as it was when he came back for Juve a few years ago.

Fantastic player, but not what we need. As i say him coming would have small merits, we do have problems in the sqaud, but Vieira won't solve any of them.

He might not be the answer, but if we can bring him back, get 2 good seasons out of him and use his influence to make the other 3 better players, AND MAYBE SHOW THE c**ts WHAT IT MEANS TO PLAY FOR ARSENAL.

All the weknesses you mention in Vieira we have the exact same problems with the current midfield , they got overrun by other midfields and the pace of the game is already to fast for song and denilson, Vieira would do a better job then both.

PLus we get a player back with whom the fans had a fucking amaizng bond. He knows what it means to be a gooner, maybe he can show some of the current crop...

I'm sorry Mike, but what a load fo piss you have spoken in this thread...can you not understand that Vieira has now declined as a footballer and he wouldnt bring anything to this current side...saying a past it Vieira is better than Denilson or Song is silly talk

You keep going on about take your Arsenal goggles off, maybe you should take off your Vieira goggles, and stop telling yourself that the same team we had in 2003 can play now and do the same job...it doesnt work like that mate, if it did people would be fighting to sign Maradonna and Pele, they were fairly good, not sure they would be now though!

You need to stop living in the past, times change and Vieira without doubt has declined, if we sign him, which i dont believe we will, it would be a step back in my opinion!

as for that team someone has posted on here? what a load of tosh! Rosicky isnt going to play in a central position unless its behind a forward, where the hell has Alex come from all of a sudden? and to have Vieira in there and say its perfect is a joke!

Well your opinion is flawed, fatally in most peoples opinion, not counting your multiple personalities of course.

Rosicky played in a central position before he came to us and it certainly wasn't the Bergkamp role, he's a midfield player, maybe we could put Song in the Bergkamp role instead, he's top quality

It was deemed to be perfect in comparison to the shite that you spend most of your time bumming up, you know the shite that could barely string 3 passes together for half the season Denilson Song Eboue Diaby, you know your heroes..the guys that were the driving force behind us putting up such a strong challenge for fourth place last season.
Of course saying all that i would much rather have Cattermole than Vieira, he's also top quality.

Saying play Song up top means nothing doesnt it? why have you even said that?

and Yes i would rather have Cattermole, because he can still walk, when ive seen Vieira he ambles about the place!

and well done for the originality by saying about multiple personalities, i said i wasnt going to have a go at anyone on here anymore...but Bollocks to you

I would be delighted if Arsenal were real challengers this year after not buying anymore...then i could really give you all a massive FUCK OFF while you all cry yourself to sleep!

[Ted B]

For once we should have some balls in the fuckin market and sign him up. He's better than song diaby and denilson, fact. people take risks on transfers all the time, but not us fuck the policy of not resigning former players.

look at the deal fergie has done with owen, i bet that turns out to be shrewd.

for once the club should pull their finger out and not be so bloody reserved by doing something out of the blue that may work sign him up you *word censored*

ok im off

[g88ner]

Rosicky is no central midfielder and can't be relied on for more than 0 games a season.

I disagree.

As part of a central THREE, I think Rosicky, Nasri or Diaby would fit in quite well... and I also think this is where Wenger will use them at times this season