SUNDERLAND THREAD

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StuartL wrote: Possibly :D I don't think Giroud is awful, but he misses too many chances to be top top quality, but he is effective as a hold up - lay off player but needs to have someone alongside or midfield runners to support him.

Both yesterday's Rosicky goal and Jack's v Norwich had Giroud laying off the final killer pass - he must be our top assister by now as well as top scorer, so he is doing some good work but as a team with title / trophy ambitions we could find a better option.

He is infuriating as he misses many simple chances then comes up with a lovely touch to put someone through.
This ^ 8)

Giroud is a good player. Not a great player and not a top striker. He has no pace and isn't great at knowing where or when to run. And he misses too many chances. But the fact he has scored as many as he has and set up so many in a system that absolutely doesn't play to his strengths is a credit to him. He plays a thankless role and never shirks it, always challenges and mostly wins in the air. But the system (or at least the players in that system) wastes so much of his ball-winning because we have no one that runs in off to pick up his lay offs most of the time. Said it a million times; play Giroud with Pod as the 2 in a 4-4-2.

More than his two well taken goals yesterday, the thing that really showed the difference between Giroud and the Fat Drunk was the fact Giroud was looking for that second goal. He anticipated the mistake and he played the percentages to run in. The Fat Drunk would not have made that run, he would not have even seen the possibility of it. He is too lazy and inept.

Good win against a side very obviously with their minds on Wembley - but you can only play against what's in front of you and I've seen Wenger sides fuck up games like this.

Delighted for Kos as he has been mostly excellent this season. Rosicky's goal was a thing of beauty and class and would have sat comfortably with our sides in 02 and 04 tbh. It showed the best of what we can do; simple tight passing with good movement and decisive finishing. The problem is we don't do it enough and often just get stuck in slow tippy tappy sideways shite. Also, that final assist from Giroud? If the Fat Drunk had been on instead, he'd have fucked it up with his rapey first touch. :roll: :|

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I'm glad Rosicky is staying. Remarkable energy and dynamism for a 33-year old. What a real shame about his injuries.

Clock is ticking down on Sagna's contract. Our defence now is exponentially better than it has been in years, even if he has to pay a bit more than he'd like to a player of Sagna's age surely it is worth it considering the risk of unsettling such a successful defence? Also we'd have to spend a fair amount plus decent wages to any replacement (who will not fit in as well) which is sadly probably a far more compelling argument for Wenger.

Also why is Mertesacker's contract ticking down towards 12 months????? Crazy. I personally would give him the captaincy in the summer but sign him up first for fuck's sake.

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northbank123 wrote:I'm glad Rosicky is staying. Remarkable energy and dynamism for a 33-year old. What a real shame about his injuries.

Clock is ticking down on Sagna's contract. Our defence now is exponentially better than it has been in years, even if he has to pay a bit more than he'd like to a player of Sagna's age surely it is worth it considering the risk of unsettling such a successful defence? Also we'd have to spend a fair amount plus decent wages to any replacement (who will not fit in as well) which is sadly probably a far more compelling argument for Wenger.

Also why is Mertesacker's contract ticking down towards 12 months????? Crazy. I personally would give him the captaincy in the summer but sign him up first for fuck's sake.
Agree recent results against them have been mixed (some shockers mixed in with our 5-2 wins!) but don't think it can be said they've been poor under the Wenger era- we went about 20 games unbeaten against them at one point-with several wins. we've also beaten them twice this season (admittedly at home)-a draw wouldn't surprise me next time out.

Also-has Rosicky actually signed? Don't mean to be pendantic here-read Wenger's comments but assuming nothing signed yet?

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northbank123 wrote:I'm glad Rosicky is staying. Remarkable energy and dynamism for a 33-year old. What a real shame about his injuries.

Clock is ticking down on Sagna's contract. Our defence now is exponentially better than it has been in years, even if he has to pay a bit more than he'd like to a player of Sagna's age surely it is worth it considering the risk of unsettling such a successful defence? Also we'd have to spend a fair amount plus decent wages to any replacement (who will not fit in as well) which is sadly probably a far more compelling argument for Wenger.

Also why is Mertesacker's contract ticking down towards 12 months????? Crazy. I personally would give him the captaincy in the summer but sign him up first for fuck's sake.
Cant agree more mate- Sagna is so underated IMHO- sadly I fear he is looking for a tax free bonanza in Monaco in his swansong :cry:

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StuartL wrote:
Possibly :D I don't think Giroud is awful, but he misses too many chances to be top top quality, but he is effective as a hold up - lay off player but needs to have someone alongside or midfield runners to support him.
Shit, it's Jamie Redknapp :shock: :lol:

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wibble wrote:
northbank123 wrote:I'm glad Rosicky is staying. Remarkable energy and dynamism for a 33-year old. What a real shame about his injuries.

Clock is ticking down on Sagna's contract. Our defence now is exponentially better than it has been in years, even if he has to pay a bit more than he'd like to a player of Sagna's age surely it is worth it considering the risk of unsettling such a successful defence? Also we'd have to spend a fair amount plus decent wages to any replacement (who will not fit in as well) which is sadly probably a far more compelling argument for Wenger.

Also why is Mertesacker's contract ticking down towards 12 months????? Crazy. I personally would give him the captaincy in the summer but sign him up first for fuck's sake.
Agree recent results against them have been mixed (some shockers mixed in with our 5-2 wins!) but don't think it can be said they've been poor under the Wenger era- we went about 20 games unbeaten against them at one point-with several wins. we've also beaten them twice this season (admittedly at home)-a draw wouldn't surprise me next time out.

Also-has Rosicky actually signed? Don't mean to be pendantic here-read Wenger's comments but assuming nothing signed yet?
He's not signed yet but with Rosicky I don't really doubt that he wants to stay if he gets the offer.

Think you've migrated that comment about our record AT Spurs from another thread. And notwithstanding a lengthy unbeaten run, it just isn't good enough there. We've played what, 17 league games there under Wenger - how many wins? I can remember 3, maybe one or two more tops? Nowhere near enough considering the general disparity between the teams over that time.

We've also only picked up 2 points from our last 5 visits and the nature in which we've thrown away points there down the years - 3 times in last minute, twice 2-goal leads - really hurts.

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Herd wrote:O then buy us a short !
I'd love to, but I don't think I can actually buy Spudmasher or OneBardEwok. Something about slavery being banned... :rubchin:

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LDB wrote:
StuartL wrote:
Possibly :D I don't think Giroud is awful, but he misses too many chances to be top top quality, but he is effective as a hold up - lay off player but needs to have someone alongside or midfield runners to support him. Basically, you need the big man to pass it into the little man and then the big man can run down the channel beside the little man.
Shit, it's Jamie Redknapp :shock: :lol:

NOW it's Jamie Redknapp. :roll: :banghead:

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