The Patrick Vieira Thread

djhdjh · Post by **djhdjh** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:55 pm

Fair enough, I always think in terms of 4-4-2 so you wouldn't want to pair him with Fabregas. Although given the alternatives...

I see no one's disagreed with the latter half of my sentence.

augie · Post by **augie** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:01 pm

Swale you criticise PV4 for ambling around the park whilst standing up for the virtues of song ??

For christs sake man song ambles his arse around the pitch like no player in living memory and he is only in his early 20's ffs

I have seen more urgency in a fcuking snail

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:37 pm

It's like after your second divorce, you go back and marry your first wife

It won't do him any favours either. If the pace of the Prem' is too much for Senderous it will certainly prove too much for Pat. I don't want to see him humiliated.

If he comes back to help on the coaching side with the odd cameo appearance in the CC then fine. But he'd be scuppered in the Prem'.

Number 5 · Post by **Number 5** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:23 pm

Rob wrote:It's like after your second divorce, you go back and marry your first wife

Can you imagine the tricks she might have picked up whilst you were broken up? Her back door could be twice the size you remember it and she may have picked up on the reverse cow girl.

If she has, it's likely I nailed your wife whilst you were divorced.

Ultimately I guess it has it's benefits and draw backs, just like signing Vieira again.

rtpgooner · Post by **rtpgooner** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:08 pm

Arsenal ready to move for Blaise Matuidi and plan Patrick Vieira talks

â€¢ Wenger ready to make move for St Etienne midfielder
â€¢ Manager and Vieira will discuss Frenchman's return to London

ArsÃ¨ne Wenger is closing in on the Â£8m capture of Blaise Matuidi from St Etienne and he is also expected to talk to Patrick Vieira in the coming days about the former Arsenal captain making a dramatic return to the club.

The manager, who has signed Thomas Vermaelen from Ajax for Â£10m but raised Â£39m through the sales of Kolo TourÃ© and Emmanuel Adebayor to Manchester City, has confirmed that he has money available, although he added that it had to be spent "in the right way", meaning with great prudence.

Wenger has monitored the progress of the 22-year-old Matuidi for the best part of three seasons, with his chief scout in France, the former Arsenal player Gilles Grimandi, urging him to move for the central midfielder. Matuidi, a graduate of the Clairefontaine academy and a former mainstay of the France Under-21 team, would appear the archetypal Wenger signing, for he is quick and intelligent, with good technique and passing ability.

St Etienne's sporting director is Damien Comolli, who served as Wenger's European scout at Arsenal for seven seasons before he went to work for Tottenham Hotspur. The pair have remained close, and Comolli, who has just overseen the â‚¬15m (Â£12.8m) sale of the striker BafÃ©timbi Gomis to Lyon, has conceded that "it would be difficult to prevent Matuidi from leaving if a top-10 European side came in for him". Matuidi has said he feels the time is right to seek a fresh challenge.

The possibility of Vieira, now at Internazionale, also moving to Arsenal sounds outlandish, but the proposition has been mooted by middlemen. Wenger, who is a mentor and confidant to Vieira, will raise the issue when the pair next speak.

Even though Vieira left Arsenal in 2005 after nine seasons, the 33-year-old continues to have the utmost respect for Wenger and his return would also be welcomed in the dressing room, where Vieira has remained in touch with his fellow Frenchmen William Gallas, MikaÃ«l Silvestre, and GaÃ«l Clichy, as well as the captain, Cesc FÃ¡bregas. His experience could help to galvanise a young squad.

"When we find the right players ... of course, we do not make money to leave it in the banks," Wenger said. "We are looking at some possibilities to strengthen the squad and we will only do it for players who it is worth spending the money on."

Tottenham had made a move for Vieira, and their interest in him remains alive, although the midfielder has reservations about playing for Arsenal's local rivals. There is also the option of his staying put at Inter, which did not exist two months ago when the manager, Jose Mourinho, frustrated by Vieira's wretched luck with injuries and inconsistent form, was prepared to usher him towards the exit. Vieira has since enjoyed one of his fullest pre-seasons for some time and feels fighting fit for the new campaign.As with every international player, this is a big season for Vieira, with the World Cup finals in South Africa at the end of it. Despite missing a host of France matches last season, he remains Raymond Domenech's captain. Moreover, Vieira's leading of the team at next summer's showpiece would carry extra significance, for he was born in the west African country of Senegal. He needs to be playing regular club football in the build-up and he will take his time to assess where best that interest will be served.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ene-wenger

Im not to sure about vieira coming back, while i would like to see him back at the club, playing in the middle of the park with cesc, it would give everyone a lift, along with adding leadership and, experience, , it is questionabble how many games he will play for us a season and will pv4 and matuidi solve the problems we have in the team or just paper over the cracks.

With Â£40 mil in the bank why arent we going after better players

Post by **T.S** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:20 am

It's interesting that the Matuidi stories are starting to gather pace now, as I work with a French guy who is a massive Saint-Ã‰tienne fan and he told me about a month ago that Matuidi (Mat-oo-dee) would be coming to Arsenal. I asked him whether the young man was any good, and I'm assured that we will be getting a real quality player. I'm told he's big, strong and very skillful. I little bit raw at the moment, but definitely a future star. With that said, I've never seen him play. I'm just going on what someone who watches him play regularly has to say.

youngw · Post by **youngw** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:39 am

started my own thread on this but it got shut down. Been told its 99% certain Vieira will sign next week.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:42 am

youngw wrote:started my own thread on this but it got shut down. Been told its 99% certain Vieira will sign next week.

Good man.

Now why didn't you do this in the first place?

Who is your source? You are gonna alienate alot of people without backing up your statement... we've had a few "I'm in the know" type characters here before...

youngw · Post by **youngw** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:45 am

to be fair, its worthy of its own thread! Will get missed in this thing.

Source is a shareholder who has links to others at the club...

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:48 am

Why will it get missed. Most people have it set up to be alerted if there is a new post, so everybody who has already posted here will come on and read your precious post.

youngw · Post by **youngw** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:49 am

Chippy wrote:Why will it get missed. Most people have it set up to be alerted if there is a new post, so everybody who has already posted here will come on and read your precious post.

When I see a 10 page thread I hardly want to go through and read it.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:52 am

youngw wrote:
Chippy wrote:Why will it get missed. Most people have it set up to be alerted if there is a new post, so everybody who has already posted here will come on and read your precious post.
When I see a 10 page thread I hardly want to go through and read it.

A bit like our own Mod Lite, Spuddy...

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:52 am

youngw wrote:
Chippy wrote:Why will it get missed. Most people have it set up to be alerted if there is a new post, so everybody who has already posted here will come on and read your precious post.
When I see a 10 page thread I hardly want to go through and read it.

As you can see you must have just read my post after being alerted and I just read yours after being alerted. simples.

BTW the long threads on here tend to be the best ones.

NBM · Post by **NBM** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:56 am

Chippy wrote:
youngw wrote:
Chippy wrote:Why will it get missed. Most people have it set up to be alerted if there is a new post, so everybody who has already posted here will come on and read your precious post.
When I see a 10 page thread I hardly want to go through and read it.
As you can see you must have just read my post after being alerted and I just read yours after being alerted. simples.

BTW the long threads on here tend to be the best ones.

Especially when they're tit threads

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:57 am

youngw wrote:
Chippy wrote:Why will it get missed. Most people have it set up to be alerted if there is a new post, so everybody who has already posted here will come on and read your precious post.
When I see a 10 page thread I hardly want to go through and read it.

But, in all seriousness, you expect the mods to read them all and then read another possibly long repeat of the same thread?

You sir, if you don't mind the vernacular, are a bit of a crunt.