players marks

augie · Post by **augie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:10 am

song always looks like he is running in quicksand - the *word censored* cant waddle his arse quick enough to get in to tackle anybody

JMascis666 · Post by **JMascis666** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:11 am

The fact that Adrian Durham things Song is a good player proves to me that he is crap.

Post by **g88ner** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:20 am

augie wrote:wenger 4 - we are now in a situation where we need to win almost every single game left but when you look at todays bench do you see anybody that can come in and make that difference ? Take it a step further and ask yourself who was our attacking options to come on with the exception of vela ?

I can't criticise Wenger for that.

Injuries to Eduardo, Adebayor, Fabregas, Walcott, Diaby and Rosicky (I know

) have robbed us of attacking options.

That's a hell of a lot of talent missing!

augie · Post by **augie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:30 am

I understand that g88ner and I know that the kid is young but why wasnt wilshire on the bench today ? Why is it that when we need a goal we bring in a full back(eboue) to play on the wing when really wilshire or even merida should be called upon ? I aint blaming eboue for today cos he wasnt on long enough anyway but in all of last season he scored zero goals and had 1 assist so surely to god having a natural winger playing there, especially when you need a goal badly, makes more sense ? For that matter why not bring in ramsey who again is more attack minded that song, denilson and eboue ?

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:34 am

Wenger has said he will ration Ramsey and Wilshere's appearances at a young age, because he does not want either to end up like Fowler and Owen who played too much too soon, resulting in tiny bone fissures that hampered their career from mid twenties onwards.

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:37 am

QuartzGooner wrote:Wenger has said he will ration Ramsey and Wilshere's appearances at a young age, because he does not want either to end up like Fowler and Owen who played too much too soon, resulting in tiny bone fissures that hampered their career from mid twenties onwards.

cesc ? or is his plan to get as much playing time out of him as possible and then sell him i njury prone to barca at 24 and sit in his office and laugh at doing barca over again

augie · Post by **augie** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:39 am

QuartzGooner wrote:Wenger has said he will ration Ramsey and Wilshere's appearances at a young age, because he does not want either to end up like Fowler and Owen who played too much too soon, resulting in tiny bone fissures that hampered their career from mid twenties onwards.

Wenger's job is to look after the needs of Arsenal first and foremost and if he can look after his players long term welfare after that then great but if he cant then so be it. The team needs all the quality players it can get right now and he should be using them accordingly.....if he wants to ration them then he should do it at a time when we have most of our injured players back

Post by **g88ner** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:45 am

augie wrote:I understand that g88ner and I know that the kid is young but why wasnt wilshire on the bench today ? Why is it that when we need a goal we bring in a full back(eboue) to play on the wing when really wilshire or even merida should be called upon ? I aint blaming eboue for today cos he wasnt on long enough anyway but in all of last season he scored zero goals and had 1 assist so surely to god having a natural winger playing there, especially when you need a goal badly, makes more sense ? For that matter why not bring in ramsey who again is more attack minded that song, denilson and eboue ?

To be honest, I'm disappointed we haven't seen more of Wilshere, because pre-season was a real eye opener, and I'm sure he'd do a decent job NOW! (certainly a better attacking option than Eboue

)

Quartz' point is valid though... after all, he's 16, so I won't be too critical on Wenger as I'm sure he has Wilshere's best interests at heart.

Ramsey is similar, but he hasn't been great anyway... against Cardiff he couldn't string 2 passes together, so I'm not sure he's ready yet.. even compared to Song and Denilson!

I can't say I disagreed with the substitutions... I just thought we were poor, and although it's ultimately Wenger's responsibility, I thought the players let themselves down today - they were awful!

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:46 am

i wonder what wilshere thinks at 16 years of age sitting on the bench knowing hes better then the majority of the players on the pitch ?

JMascis666 · Post by **JMascis666** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:49 am

I know what your saying mate, but he is still only 16.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:50 am

Lethal has a fair point about Cesc, who has played tons of games for one so young, and has not been guarded by Wenger as one might expect.

And now is injured, and spoke out about playing too many games as contributing to the injury, and about not getting enough of a break between Euro 2008 and the club season.

His early season form was poor, he simply looked exhausted.

JMascis666 · Post by **JMascis666** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:54 am

Probaly been mentioned a million times, but not having a break during the summer coz of the European Championships probaly didn't help Cesc.

He has played an massive amount of games for one so young.

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:55 am

he also said in last weeks programme notes he was playing with a small injury so another we rushed back

JMascis666 · Post by **JMascis666** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:00 am

He is so important to the side, I think we had to ! Although clearly it has back fired on us.

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:47 am

Lethal wrote:almunia-6 usual meh

sagna-4 thought he was fucking shite,single worst performance for the club

kolo-8 looks like getting back to his best

gallas-7 good again

clichy-5 he needs a rest

arshavin-7 started brilliantly and faded a bit,gonna be a top player next season

denilson-6 meh

song-5 not good enough

nasri-5 needs to step up

van persie-5 poor

bendtner-6 meh

subs
vela-4 shocker
eboue-0 die bitch die
gibbs-5 no time

Marks above I pretty much agree except Song 4, stinker.